Draft of Prodigious Blow: Overkill 1100. 60m.

But...this?

The market would be influenced with these flowing in from here as well. If that's the intention, then so be it, but I'd still like to make note of it already being available.

Trendy is a player idea buff and one we have been asked for in this very thread. Remember, not everyone plays like you do.  Pretty much this, sorry.~ Grim

And you want potions to last even longer than they do with BrewM from Arena? There are some that already last 16 hours WITHOUT any BrewM; we don't need things that extend the effectiveness of our "overpowered-ness."

Sinking more potions = good; making other potions last even longer = bad.

The game economy doesn't need even longer lasting Instant Teleport potions for seasonal titans and cows. The market is already flooded.

The idea behind extending our already lengthy potions is a ludicrous idea.

Arterial Strike 600/1000: Already have a loyalty pot Arterial Strike 1000. It is also very niche and most people don't use it.

Trendy ???: No one will use this. Would have to be a stupidly high level to even try and get comparable stats to sets being paired with coordinated buffs and smashing hammer.

 

That being said I do have some possible potion recommendations if you are looking to replace some of these with something.

 

Sacrifice 550: Kind of the same as Sidd's potion allowing a higher level sacrifice be available outside of global chests.

Brewing Master 400: Will be a more expensive and rarer alternative of Brewers Art from arena to be used with those high epic pots.

Pride 300: Same as brewing master but for composed pots.

AS - the entire point is to have one available for free trade; that's good for the game's otherwise stagnantly dead economy. 600 won't do it, but 1k will. With the only other option being from Loyalty Tokens, those that DO want to use it will likely pay a reasonable amount for it as well.

Sacrifice already caps gold loss to 100% at level 500 - that's 575 post-distil which means 633 post-distil on 550? For what purpose? To have EVEN MORE XP gain when it's already super easy to level up?

BrewM would kill the only reasonable potion from the Arena. That does no good.

BG's on record as saying Pride is and will remain composing only.

 

Hey there.

 

Right, first swing at new Crate content, I reckon I'll spread the various frag stashes across all existing crates. I think maybe one new potion per existing one. Potions, I'm tempted to put into two new chests? Opinions?

 

Potions I reckon we'll add:

 

Conserve 800. 60m.

Adept Learner 800. 60m.

Light Foot 1500. 60m.

Overkill 1100. 60m. Sidd's Poison already exists in the open market.

Titan Doubler 300. 60m.

Counter Attack 300. 60m. Wasting stamina in 2024 is bad for gameplay; I understand minor appeal for wanting something to increase stats in PvE, but there are other ways to do it without sacrificing stamina in today's game. For those mentioning SE's, there are other ways to solo those even at a much lower level than having to rely on an abysmal buff such as CA.

Invigorate 1000. 720m.

Reckoning 300. 60m.

Savagery 300. 60m.

Arterial Strike 600 (1000?) 60m. 600 is Dead on Arrival; it doesn't provide enough of a benefit to see decent levels of circulation. While I know I made note that Sidd's Poison already exists for Overkill 1100, this one is different. With only having access to AS 1000 via Loyalty tokens, this would give it an opportunity to be in the open market, which is a good thing.

Shield strike 400. 60m.

Immobilise Titan 400. 120m.

Trendy ? Trendy is a wasted buff for where we are in the game now; losing access to both Coordinated Attack and Defense, coupled with losing out on some Epic Craft bonuses as well as diminished returns on Epic Forge, Enchant Buffs, and in-turn the other compounded buffs on top of those, you'd need an exorbitantly high level Trendy level for this to even be worth it. I can find you the break-even point to make it semi-viable, but even with a multiplier at 0.01% compared to Coordinated Buffs' 0.05%, it's already starting behind.

 

 

Arterial Strike I'm no sure whether to go for 600 or 1000. Maybe both? Dunno.

 

Not sure what to do with Trendy. I tested it at 10,000 for ease. I'm no going that high obviously, but I do understand it likely needs to be high-ish to be useful? Again, opinions please.

 

Cheers!

 

~ Grim

 

Cyan = Good or Indifferent

Red = Don't Do It

As far as new chests go, that's fine, I guess. The opportunity to rotate loot into the chests is also an idea as well if you decide to stick them in the old chests, however.

I understand the idea behind trendy, but the use of something like that is in FS's past at this point. As mentioned above, I can likely find a "break-even" point where it could find potential use, but that number would be ridiculously high to compete with the readily available buffs we already have.

No. We are constantly told we need new stuff at all levels. The Level ranges of prizes are based on where in 1 to 10 the player placed. Thus the design is by the player for that level. That player decided they wanted an SE at that range. You want a specific SE in the high ranges, earn a top spot!

 

~ Grim

'Twas just a suggestions - 'tis just a shame the set is already "Dead on Arrival" if it isn't above a certain level. I'm aware of how the "prize" is laid out for the player designed sets - you could also just compress the winning ranges so 1st gets EoC +250, 2nd gets EoC, 3rd gets Eoc -250, etc. Sword's loss - not mine.

I only brought it up as I was looking at gear statistics; just looking at "Glove/Gauntlet" items, from levels 1-1499 of Super Elite, Legendary, Epic, and Crystalline quality, there are 106 options available. The same item slots of the same quality from levels 1500-EoC yield only 65 options.

And that's just the gloves. It's generally the same across all item slots, and the disparity grows even greater when you factor in Unique and Rare quality items. When I say we don't need more down there, the numbers support it - it's not an opinion.

"Updates" and "content" in what sense?

- Composing DXP Event

- Global

- Composing DXP Event

- LE Event

 

CTRL + C

CTRL + V

 

Ta-da; there's our monthly routine. Maybe sprinkle in a little variance occasionally, but there's the gist. We're on life support on Sword, and the players realize that whether it's communicated or not.

 

It takes minimal stamina investment to level through the 25 levels of content that come out quarterly before EoC is left with only logging in daily to get their 5 measly Allegiance Tokens and check to see whether their daily quest is worth doing (it usually isn't). Non-EoC are left typically waiting for their stamina to fill up to max so they can hunt the content to GET to EoC to fall into the same cycle.

 

The new stuff that comes out? Most is "dead on arrival." Why? Because all most care about is the hunting aspect and MAYBE a bit of titan hunting, but if stuff doesn't have Temporal Shift, then the latter is automatically discarded from potential use of new items.

New titans? Sure maybe? We're capped at +7 Stam Gain. Eventually everyone is going to have access and possession of all +7 Stam Gain items, and then there's no point in having an open market for new or pre-existing Epic items. It's just a "let me log in to make sure stam gain is still good."

 

A game is supposed to be challenging in some regards - Sword is void of that. There's a barely existent "open market," if you can even call it that - the mobs are yawn-able since all a player has to do is repeatedly mash 1 on their keyboard until they run out of stam - other aspects are so far behind they shouldn't be mentioned out of respect for the dead.

 

The Realm Chest Update should be at the forefront of priorities, but manpower, as stated above has been pulled for Godzilla. <- This is the proof that Sword is on life-support.

 

I don't want to see Sword die, but nothing's being done to resuscitate it and get it off the ventilator.

Since this was disregarded due to not wanting to speak about the elephantS in the room, let's try a different plea.

Here is the event roadmap for July - October 2024!

 

juloct2024.png

 

As always, roadmaps are a guide and subject to change. 

We see there's a new SE supposedly coming designed by a player, and we know that the player designed SE was given a specific level range; is there a way to shift that level to something that ISN'T below level 2500? More SE's at higher level are needed, and anything below ~2500 is going to be Dead on Arrival as it won't have a use. If it's already completed, just scale it up - a 5500 SE would be nice to see.

not fixed now Vampduffula (Legendary) is spawing with everyone else in the levels

 

and now Grumpy Groosifoo (Legendary) also

Nope, but it got me into trouble who had to call BigGrim back from his holidays to fix...

Quick, quick! Someone CTRL + Z, CTRL + Z, CTRL + Z really quick before it's too late! 

Fixed. Thanks for the heads up!

 

- Grim 

That CTRL + C -> CTRL + V gotcha in trouble, didn't it?

Nope. Those games don't get updates or content. Sword gets both. I mean, this is a ROADMAP thread showing future updates and content both.

 

- Grim

"Updates" and "content" in what sense?

- Composing DXP Event

- Global

- Composing DXP Event

- LE Event

CTRL + C

CTRL + V

Ta-da; there's our monthly routine. Maybe sprinkle in a little variance occasionally, but there's the gist. We're on life support on Sword, and the players realize that whether it's communicated or not.

It takes minimal stamina investment to level through the 25 levels of content that come out quarterly before EoC is left with only logging in daily to get their 5 measly Allegiance Tokens and check to see whether their daily quest is worth doing (it usually isn't). Non-EoC are left typically waiting for their stamina to fill up to max so they can hunt the content to GET to EoC to fall into the same cycle.

The new stuff that comes out? Most is "dead on arrival." Why? Because all most care about is the hunting aspect and MAYBE a bit of titan hunting, but if stuff doesn't have Temporal Shift, then the latter is automatically discarded from potential use of new items.

New titans? Sure maybe? We're capped at +7 Stam Gain. Eventually everyone is going to have access and possession of all +7 Stam Gain items, and then there's no point in having an open market for new or pre-existing Epic items. It's just a "let me log in to make sure stam gain is still good."

A game is supposed to be challenging in some regards - Sword is void of that. There's a barely existent "open market," if you can even call it that - the mobs are yawn-able since all a player has to do is repeatedly mash 1 on their keyboard until they run out of stam - other aspects are so far behind they shouldn't be mentioned out of respect for the dead.

The Realm Chest Update should be at the forefront of priorities, but manpower, as stated above has been pulled for Godzilla. <- This is the proof that Sword is on life-support.

I don't want to see Sword die, but nothing's being done to resuscitate it and get it off the ventilator.

Sword is not going anywhere, don't worry.

 

- Grim

In the same manner that Legacy, Sigmastorm, and Eldevin haven't and "won't go anywhere?"

As it stands, I am currently unable to push for any sweeping changes to features, such as Arena, due to our resources being allocated elsewhere. However, when an opening presents itself, I will bring your feedback to the forefront once again and see what we can do for the future! 

So...proof that Fallen Sword is on life support? If it is, that's fine, but I'm sure we'd like to hear it directly more so than subliminally.

Overkill 1100. 60m.

Titan Doubler 300. 60m.

Counter Attack 300. 60m.

 

Frag stashes:

 

Worldly Frag Stashes, Bronze to Ruby. These are the mixed frags, similar to those in the Globals, just with more Frags and unbound.

 

Then we have : 

 

Worldly SE Frag Stash

Worldly Crystal Frag Stash

Worldly Legendary Frag Stash

Worldly Unique Frag Stash

Worldly Rare Frag Stash

Worldly Common Frag Stash

 

Frag Stashes with a single type of Frag. Higher quantity and unbound.

 

Questions.

 

Would we want these added to existing Crates? Or brand new ones?

 

Quest Items. Used for inventing upgraded Epics? If so, likely one of due to rarity/scarcity?

 

~ Grim

Everything not quoted is fine.

As others have said, OK 1100 already exists and sells well. With the potion flowing throughout the market, adding direct competition to it would be a terrible idea.

Titan Doubler 300 was suggested as a "for cleanup," idea, sure, but realistically, it's going to be used to secure holiday and limited titans more quickly. All it does is further exacerbate an already prevalent issue.

I don't know why Counter Attack was suggested. It's an abysmal buff that should never see any use in its current iteration. Squandering stamina against PvE mobs is the worst thing you can do, and when it offers Attack and Damage which are the easiest two stats to get thanks to the way gear distribution and buff work currently, this is a wasted slot. Counter Attack needs a complete rework or this suggestion should change to something like Arterial Strike 1000. While I know there's already one in the loyalty section, having one available on the open market works well for circumventing the loyalty coin cost some individuals may not have.

I'm torn on frag stashes. I understand why some may would want them, but with the way Global Events work and how well they're done, these would only be a wasted effort to a vast majority of those playing today. Now, if there were a way to put an "Instant Composing Level +5" item into a chest, that thing might would sell...

I saw the recommendation for a Reckoning 300 which sounds great, and I agree that it's hard coming up with other ideas on things because we don't want powercreep to get any worse than it already has. What would be the thoughts on a new buff specific to the chests here instead?

• Investment Average Cost for 5,000 RP +8 SG Item = ~10,246 FSP in Stam + ~1,275 FSP in Additional Expenses
• Gain Difference in +8 SG over a +7 SG = 8,766 Stam = ~351 FSP
• Overall Net Profit in Circulated FSP of ~11,170 FSP
• Epic Provides Item of ~31.5 Years of Positive Valuation to HCG Before Item Pays for Itself
• In adding a +8 SG item, it in turn grants the players the potential to be more active in FS. Because of this, it also could provide each person to eventually get their hands on a +8 SG to dive into other aspects of FS they haven't participated in prior to its introduction.

• 50-Hit Conflict
  • 1 Conflict: 1 FSP; 2,050,000 Gold; 2,410 Stam
  • 20 Conflicts: 20 FSP; 3,000,000 Gold; 10,200 Stam
  • 5,000 RP Conflicts: 500 FSP; 75,000,000 Gold; 255,000 Stam
• 75-Hit Conflict
  • 1 Conflict: 1 FSP; 3,050,000 Gold; 3,610 Stam
  • 20 Conflicts: 20 FSP; 4,000,000 Gold; 15,300 Stam
  • 5,000 RP Conflicts: 334 FSP; 50,700,000 Gold; 256,410 Stam
• 100-Hit Conflict
  • 1 Conflict: 1 FSP; 4,050,000 Gold; 4,820 Stam
  • 20 Conflicts: 20 FSP; 5,000,000 Gold; 20,400 Stam
  • 5,000 RP Conflicts: 250 FSP; 38,500,000 Gold; 257,000 Stam

You said these that I removed wouldn't change, so I removed from feedback. That said, based on the below, aside from the promotion items, the others can be scrapped.

 

Below are augmented versions of the above with RP costs. Still 12 hours duration.

 

 

Name: Battle Pack C Cost: 15 RP (Won't see much if any use.)

Contents: 

Rage 300

Berserk 300

Fortify 300

 

Name: Power Leveller C Cost: 20 RP (Same as above. These buffs are used by active, online players. They'd just pop composing potions at minimum.)

Adept Learner 300

Librarian 300

Doubler 300

 

Name: Battle Pack D Cost: 30 RP (Same as Battle Pack C. No use here.)

Contents: 

Death Wish 400

Death Dealer 400

Wither 400

 

Name: Power Leveller D Cost: 20 RP (Same as Power Leveller C.)

Contents: 

Adept Learner 400

Librarian 400

Doubler 400

Conserve 400

 

Name: Fortune Pack C Cost: 20 RP (Same as what Leos said. Redundant Given D.)

Quest Finder 300

Merchant 300

Four Leaf 300

Find Item 300

Treasure Hunter 300

 

Name: Defense Pack C Cost: 20 RP (Yeah, sure. This looks fine. As a believer in Level Up Point Distributions mattering, this looks fine)

Contents: 

Fortify 400

Aura of Protection 400

Force Shield 400

Fortitude 400 (Huh? 28 March 2023 @ 10:09 EST (15:09 Your time), and I quote "300 interferes with Promo and Arena potions," but here we are with a 400?" I'm all for the level 400, but let's maintain some consistency here with what we believe to be a good idea and a bad idea.)

 

Name: Fortune Pack D Cost: 25 RP (Good pack. Brings value around here. This one is needed.)

Contents: 

Quest Finder 400

Merchant 400

Four Leaf 400

Find Item 400

Treasure Hunter 400

 

Name: Defense Pack D Cost: 20 RP (Pretty good here. I may would toss in Great Vigor as a bonus on this one to round it out and make it an all-rounder.)

Contents: 

Evade 400

Absorb 400

Flinch 400

Rock Skin 400

 

 

Here, we have Toreth's suggestions. We've posted them below with possible costs. Additionally, we have noted where certain buffs and potion ideas confict with existing potions from around the game. Those are buffs are unllikely to be put in place.

 

 

Name: Enchant Pack Cost: 75 RP (Again, pretty good. As Count said, it does interfere some with the chest obtained potion of enchantment if you wanted to look at that; if you were to compare, though, I would suggest only lowering to 175 given that if someone happened to pop that potion, it puts the levels at 202.)

Contents: 

Enchant Amulet 200

Enchant Boots 200

Enchant Helmet 200

Enchant Ring 200

Enchant Rune 200

Enchant Shield 200

Enchant Weapon 200

Enchanted Armor200

Iron Fist 200

 

 

Name: Titan Pack Cost: 200 RP (As others have said, without any Teleport at all, this won't see use. Even with what Shin said and reintroducing at 185 so it has some level without invalidating some things would be good.)

Contents: 

Titan Doubler 200

Light Foot 600

Avert Gaze 200

 

 

Name: Leveling Pack Cost: 200 RP (Lowering AM is moot. As AM already exists at level 400 and above from a plethora of different areas, Serum of the Hunter, Globals, Loyalty Potion, even Composed. It doesn't really matter. Aside from that, this looks fine and good.)

Contents: 

Stalker 400

Sacrifice 300

Overkill 350

Animal Magnetism 400 - 350

 

 

Name: Defense Pack Cost: 200 RP (See Defense Pack C for feedback on Fortitude. Just leave it at 300 here. If you're going to lower it based on Defense Pack C, Raise Avenger and Stalwart Heart, then, otherwise this likely sees little to no use given it'll invalidate one of the key features of the pack. While Fortitude exists in level 300 and even 400 (345 and 460 post Distil), the Arena potion isn't purchased as-is due to its existence in other potions already. All this does is help with defending.)

Contents: 

Avenger 300

Stalwart Heart 300

Fortitude 200 (300 interferes with Promo and Arena potions.)

 

 

Name: Bounty Pack Cost: 200 RP (Another one of those "Mainly an active, online player pack" which, when we factor that in, the Anti-Deflect level at 400 doesn't matter as even a simple composing potion invalidates it - same as the Spell Breaker. The highlight is the Retaliate and Undermine for offline players. AD and SB are easily overwritten by online players as they're online buffs.)

Contents: 

Anti Deflect 300 (400 interferes with Promo potions.)

Spell Breaker 250 (Invalidates invented potion?)

Retaliate 300

Undermine 300

 

 

Name: Fighter Pack Cost: 125 RP (What happened to the strikethroughs on this one!? Originally proposed was Fist Fight 250 - 200 is too low given that all someone has to do is pop a BE potion from composing and buff everyone with Fist Fight 203. 250 gives it value given that online players who want to win will likely be using Fist Fight 345 (Empress Elixer). Originally Riposte and Sharpen as well, and if we look at those "win now" conditions, there wouldn't be interference given that someone would just use an XMas box for the appropriate level (518).)

Contents: 

Fist Fight 200

Critical Strike 250

Side Step 250

Riposte 200

Sharpen 200

 

 

I hope this is all makes sense. We look forward to discussion and feedback plus any suggestions regarding other possible packs.

 

~ The Fallen Sword Team

 

As others have said - there also needs to be more to bring value to RP. As much as I dislike having a multitude of different currencies across the same aspect, maybe look at adding something extra to GvG so that way when the introduction of new gear (what's really needed) comes around, people can't just buy immediately with stored RP.

Hey,

 

At the same time, I feel like I am as likely to GvG as I was before the update as I am after it. I believed there was... more to come with the Update itself in terms of things changing. Do you have anything else planned in terms of rewards, mechanics, or additional adjustments?

I think this is the biggest takeaway currently. While I know the thread for new RP packs was posted as well, RP packs can also only do so much to drive activity in an area that is nearly void of participation. Sure, there may be some guilds who have been farming RP for a little while in anticipation for this "update," their takeaway is likely going to be "well this amounts to nothing for us."

GvG is supposed to be competitive to some extent, and while the notification system helps that, and the widening of the level ranges helps with getting more targets to potentially improve activity in some regard, the overall sentiment behind ONLY this is that "These are simple Quality of Life changes." There still will be no competitive aspect to GvG given what's been presented here.

What of this? What happened to this portion of the proposal that would have incentivized a good portion of players to at least ATTEMPT GvGing more seriously. Without the attached also being implemented, we are no better off than we were prior to the update - if anything, we may be a little worse off instead given the lack of incentives to continue GvGing that failed to launch with the QoL update.

It's been ~18 months since the original proposal was brought up on the forums, and while I understand some of that time has been waiting for Hoof, the fact that the update here is a mere change in combat level range and a notification to when the conflict has been initiated and will begin is a way to tell the part of the community that enjoys GvGing that they don't matter - that they should go and play other aspects instead as this one no longer exists.