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[grimnok]

I am pretty sure you can mass extract components already, when I right click on them it gives me the option (would be nice if hoof made the same adjustment to his code as yuzzan made to the helper code to work on the stashes)

As far as using up coding time to add more guild store slots it would be fine it it applied to more then 1 guild in the entire game... If there was more then 1 or a few that this applied to go for it, but an update that only affects 1 guild is wasting Hoof's time.

You guys are cleaver I think you could find a way to clean up the store and utilize 1500 slots

Adding discounted potion only slots to the store wouldn't necessarily only affect FFS.  Depending on how discounted they were, others might be interested.

 

Can I interest you in some antique FF formerly useful elite sets?

[BraveKath]

I have come to accept that the fragment stash event was a success - .....PLEASE DONT lower that ceiling so everyone can simply reach up & touch it.  Thanks for your ear ~ Rye

 

Good post by Ryebred.  I deleted the core of Ryebred's post, simply for brevity of space, so please go to Page 8 to read it in its entirety.

I agree - while leveling in composing is tedious, I still see no reason to pander to cries to make it easy.  There are too many things in the game that have been made easy.  The potions are fine the way they are as they evolve.  We were gifted with an insane amount of frags from the Global, so leveling just got easier - done & nothing more needed.

Not to detract from Rye's point, as I do support it.  I would compromise to see a few potions gain leveling options, but instead of the steady advancement, let it be intermittent.  Example AL - currently caps at 200 at Level 11,.  If perhaps at Level 20, 25 or even 30 it could increase by 10 ... so AL would remain at L200 thru Level 19, and then increase to 210 at L20, and then not again for another space of time.  A game by its very nature needs challenge and reward, but rewards earned.

Again, good post Rye and it is similar to what is being said by many others in various threads from The Wraiths announcement to the New Medals, etc.

Edited by BraveKath, 06 March 2014 - 00:54.

[Ryebred]

GvG needs attention - simple moves can improve it so very much, and I see no harm in trying something that isn't a complete alteration of GvG as we know it now. 

 

How do you start - quarterly resets.  Every 3 months reset top rated list.  Why; because the top is stagnant, and upcoming guilds so far from getting close - it's downright discouraging.  

 

Reward the top at each reset; nothing fancy - just a little boost of RP to the tops - further increases incentive to compete.  GvGers are very proud, and little incentive is needed imo. 

 

                1st - 300 RP

                2nd- 200 RP

                3rd- 150 RP

                4th & 5th - 100 RP

                6th-10th- 75 RP

                11th-25th- 50 RP

 

Don't go introducing more gear to be made with RP - want to include some updated buff packs that are with the times = great (buff packs that support the fields from which the currency to buy them is spawned would be an amazing revelation - titan hunting + GvG friendly packs) - but don't overdo it on the rewards. 

 

New guild medals in same light of ones recently introduced to recognize outstanding achievement on guild scale would be nice perk too..they can in themseves do something small like the current "
Guild Achievements " do - can represent few different catagories - top dogs, top 5, etc. 

 

I think this is good base idea to try.  There is no harm that can come of it in my opinion.  I believe it will create a new buzz in game; and many would be shocked at what doing a little can bring to a dying field. 

 

Thanks for reading; feedback, suggestions, etc ~ Rye

[DomCorvis]

GvG needs attention - simple moves can improve it so very much, and I see no harm in trying something that isn't a complete alteration of GvG as we know it now. 

 

How do you start - quarterly resets.  Every 3 months reset top rated list.  Why; because the top is stagnant, and upcoming guilds so far from getting close - it's downright discouraging.  

 

Reward the top at each reset; nothing fancy - just a little boost of RP to the tops - further increases incentive to compete.  GvGers are very proud, and little incentive is needed imo. 

 

                1st - 300 RP

                2nd- 200 RP

                3rd- 150 RP

                4th & 5th - 100 RP

                6th-10th- 75 RP

                11th-25th- 50 RP

 

Don't go introducing more gear to be made with RP - want to include some updated buff packs that are with the times = great (buff packs that support the fields from which the currency to buy them is spawned would be an amazing revelation - titan hunting + GvG friendly packs) - but don't overdo it on the rewards. 

 

New guild medals in same light of ones recently introduced to recognize outstanding achievement on guild scale would be nice perk too..they can in themseves do something small like the current "
Guild Achievements " do - can represent few different catagories - top dogs, top 5, etc. 

 

I think this is good base idea to try.  There is no harm that can come of it in my opinion.  I believe it will create a new buzz in game; and many would be shocked at what doing a little can bring to a dying field. 

 

Thanks for reading; feedback, suggestions, etc ~ Rye

 

Couldnt agree more

[pigsplint]

Couldnt agree more

 

GvG needs attention - simple moves can improve it so very much, and I see no harm in trying something that isn't a complete alteration of GvG as we know it now. 

 

How do you start - quarterly resets.  Every 3 months reset top rated list.  Why; because the top is stagnant, and upcoming guilds so far from getting close - it's downright discouraging.  

 

Reward the top at each reset; nothing fancy - just a little boost of RP to the tops - further increases incentive to compete.  GvGers are very proud, and little incentive is needed imo. 

 

                1st - 300 RP

                2nd- 200 RP

                3rd- 150 RP

                4th & 5th - 100 RP

                6th-10th- 75 RP

                11th-25th- 50 RP

 

Don't go introducing more gear to be made with RP - want to include some updated buff packs that are with the times = great (buff packs that support the fields from which the currency to buy them is spawned would be an amazing revelation - titan hunting + GvG friendly packs) - but don't overdo it on the rewards. 

 

New guild medals in same light of ones recently introduced to recognize outstanding achievement on guild scale would be nice perk too..they can in themseves do something small like the current "
Guild Achievements " do - can represent few different catagories - top dogs, top 5, etc. 

 

I think this is good base idea to try.  There is no harm that can come of it in my opinion.  I believe it will create a new buzz in game; and many would be shocked at what doing a little can bring to a dying field. 

 

Thanks for reading; feedback, suggestions, etc ~ Rye

+100,  The top ladder is dead, never used to be, the  rating rewards are too low as well,  Rye's concepts in the game are intelligent and wel lthought out, you would do well to follow a bit of this player's advice regarding the game.. Get GvG workable and fun again,  I can't 100% agree with the reset, but I cannot disagree with it either..

[1Bruno3]

GvG needs attention - simple moves can improve it so very much, and I see no harm in trying something that isn't a complete alteration of GvG as we know it now.



How do you start - quarterly resets. Every 3 months reset top rated list. Why; because the top is stagnant, and upcoming guilds so far from getting close - it's downright discouraging.



Reward the top at each reset; nothing fancy - just a little boost of RP to the tops - further increases incentive to compete. GvGers are very proud, and little incentive is needed imo.



1st - 300 RP

2nd- 200 RP

3rd- 150 RP

4th & 5th - 100 RP

6th-10th- 75 RP

11th-25th- 50 RP



Don't go introducing more gear to be made with RP - want to include some updated buff packs that are with the times = great (buff packs that support the fields from which the currency to buy them is spawned would be an amazing revelation - titan hunting + GvG friendly packs) - but don't overdo it on the rewards.



New guild medals in same light of ones recently introduced to recognize outstanding achievement on guild scale would be nice perk too..they can in themseves do something small like the current "
Guild Achievements " do - can represent few different catagories - top dogs, top 5, etc.



I think this is good base idea to try. There is no harm that can come of it in my opinion. I believe it will create a new buzz in game; and many would be shocked at what doing a little can bring to a dying field.

 

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I love this idea... My only suggestion with something like this would be maybe along with extra RP for the leading GVG guilds, would be to treat it also like the PVP ladder and maybe make tokens available again in order for those leading guilds to maybe really AWESOME and unique PVP gears for their guilds.

 

I think this would be awesome as GVG has really been ignored for quite some time and I feel this would be the thing to resurrect it...

 

Thank you... BRUNO

[Spider0007]

Despite being one of the few players who loses quite a bit if Ryebred's suggestion of a GVG Ladder reset does occur, I still believe it to be a great idea. GvG is dead and has gotten worse since the last update limiting the number of hits 1 player can make. The top guilds are either inactive or rarely gvg these days. Sparking some interest back into my favorite aspect of the game would be positive for everyone in the FS community. 

 

 

I would also like to some some inventable pvp potions that can be made using PvP Tokens!!!!

 

 

P.S. If you want the top spot, come and claim it!

[Kedyn]

+1 to Rye's idea on resets for the GVG ladder - it would definitely breathe life into a pretty dead area of the game. It's a pretty small change I would think in terms of game mechanics as it would follow the same path as the PVP ladder.

 

I would also like to make a suggestion around GVG rating transfers. Part of the reason GVG is as dead as it is on the top is that some guilds can only get like 1-2 points from each other. It's hard to get motivation from others (albeit GVGers and the top rated GVG guilds are very proud people and fight to the end) to spend upwards and over 50-100+ FSP and countless stamina for 1-2 points of rating. 

 

I would love to see the GVG spark re-ignited in the game.

[BraveKath]

GvG needs attention - simple moves can improve it so very much, and I see no harm in trying something that isn't a complete alteration of GvG as we know it now. 

 

How do you start - quarterly resets.  ........(DELETED FOR BREVITY - READ RYEBRED'S  POST ABOVE FOR THE WHOLE ENCHILADA)

 

Thanks for reading; feedback, suggestions, etc ~ Rye

 

 +1

Absolutely a great idea!  Just as Ryebred presents it - easy and would provide a significant spark of activity across the game. I truly hope players will be heard on this and that this will be addressed sooner, rather than later.  As GvG has been broken for so long, it would be awesome to see this inserted into the current Roadmap schedule and given priority.

Perhaps a personal preference, wouldn't mind seeing the ability to solo GvG's come back, thus the ability for 1 player to initiate and do 50-100 hits.  

BUT go for Rye's proposal just as is and it will be a big win for the game as a whole and for old and new GvG'ers.

 

[WarQueen]

+1 in agreement with Rye's proposal.
 

[pigsplint]

If there were to be inventable items they could only be created guild locked would seem to be the best way to go to keep farming abuse down and make the reward something special and only really applicable to the guild for a reward for GvG.. Also a Guild GvG Dominanace achievement would seem to be in order as stated...

[Teuchter]

Totally agree with ryebred, besides there is much to be done in the game,like arena, ladder,etc without trying to make composing easier, it works just fine ,takes time to earn the good potions and so it should, , I am happy with it as is ,   Weerapll,

[Teuchter]

Totally Agree With ryebred, GvG needs some life injected into it,  something to work towards,needs to be given a sense of achievement, rp rewards need something different ,not just a way of making epics and fsp ,  Wee,

[Pardoux]

GvG needs attention - simple moves can improve it so very much, and I see no harm in trying something that isn't a complete alteration of GvG as we know it now. 

 

Reward the top at each reset; nothing fancy - just a little boost of RP to the tops - further increases incentive to compete.  GvGers are very proud, and little incentive is needed imo. 

 

                1st - 300 RP

                2nd- 200 RP

                3rd- 150 RP

                4th & 5th - 100 RP

                6th-10th- 75 RP

                11th-25th- 50 RP

 

I see no harm in this whatsoever - all I would like to suggest first is that the raising of the "farmable" cap for new players was addressed as previously agreed on (or at least commented on and said to be a good idea) by the cows.

 

 
Perhaps a personal preference, wouldn't mind seeing the ability to solo GvG's come back, thus the ability for 1 player to initiate and do 50-100 hits. 
 

 

I have to disagree with you there I'm afraid Kath - it's GvG, not solo guild member vs solo guild member. I know quite a few players would love to see this being reintroduced, but I'd hope it's not.

[LemmyKilms]

I'm sure that my thoughts will be dismissed, but heres are my 2 cents.  Although the suggestion is great for those that participate, farming will increase even more (we have several guilds that say hello to us weekly).  Being in a guild that has limited funds, gear and the stam (mine) used to defend is out of the question and we can no longer afford to initiate or defend.  The continual gold lost to repair, especially new players, and those that take the constant beating after getting farmed for the RP will discourage them from staying with guilds such as SG and/or possibly playing the game.  I'm not sure if it has been addressed yet, but what about removing dead guilds from being listed?  

[Jonah Tebaa]

GvG needs attention - simple moves can improve it so very much, and I see no harm in trying something that isn't a complete alteration of GvG as we know it now. 

 

How do you start - quarterly resets.  Every 3 months reset top rated list.  Why; because the top is stagnant, and upcoming guilds so far from getting close - it's downright discouraging.  

 

Reward the top at each reset; nothing fancy - just a little boost of RP to the tops - further increases incentive to compete.  GvGers are very proud, and little incentive is needed imo. 

 

                1st - 300 RP

                2nd- 200 RP

                3rd- 150 RP

                4th & 5th - 100 RP

                6th-10th- 75 RP

                11th-25th- 50 RP

 

Don't go introducing more gear to be made with RP - want to include some updated buff packs that are with the times = great (buff packs that support the fields from which the currency to buy them is spawned would be an amazing revelation - titan hunting + GvG friendly packs) - but don't overdo it on the rewards. 

 

New guild medals in same light of ones recently introduced to recognize outstanding achievement on guild scale would be nice perk too..they can in themseves do something small like the current "
Guild Achievements " do - can represent few different catagories - top dogs, top 5, etc. 

 

I think this is good base idea to try.  There is no harm that can come of it in my opinion.  I believe it will create a new buzz in game; and many would be shocked at what doing a little can bring to a dying field. 

 

Thanks for reading; feedback, suggestions, etc ~ Rye

 

Totally agree here. This solves so many issues with GVG and with Top Guilds. Most of the top guilds are ones with 1 active player. Those should not be there.
 

[LemmyKilms]

Totally agree here. This solves so many issues with GVG and with Top Guilds. Most of the top guilds are ones with 1 active player. Those should not be there.
 

Not to mention the multis that we all know exist

[wil72]

I have to disagree with you there I'm afraid Kath - it's GvG, not solo guild member vs solo guild member. I know quite a few players would love to see this being reintroduced, but I'd hope it's not.

 

Looks like GvG from where I'm standing mate

 

Cheers.

 

wil72

[Lupp0]

GvG needs attention - simple moves can improve it so very much, and I see no harm in trying something that isn't a complete alteration of GvG as we know it now. 

 

How do you start - quarterly resets.  Every 3 months reset top rated list.  Why; because the top is stagnant, and upcoming guilds so far from getting close - it's downright discouraging.  

 

Reward the top at each reset; nothing fancy - just a little boost of RP to the tops - further increases incentive to compete.  GvGers are very proud, and little incentive is needed imo. 

 

                1st - 300 RP

                2nd- 200 RP

                3rd- 150 RP

                4th & 5th - 100 RP

                6th-10th- 75 RP

                11th-25th- 50 RP

 

Don't go introducing more gear to be made with RP - want to include some updated buff packs that are with the times = great (buff packs that support the fields from which the currency to buy them is spawned would be an amazing revelation - titan hunting + GvG friendly packs) - but don't overdo it on the rewards. 

 

New guild medals in same light of ones recently introduced to recognize outstanding achievement on guild scale would be nice perk too..they can in themseves do something small like the current "
Guild Achievements " do - can represent few different catagories - top dogs, top 5, etc. 

 

I think this is good base idea to try.  There is no harm that can come of it in my opinion.  I believe it will create a new buzz in game; and many would be shocked at what doing a little can bring to a dying field. 

 

Thanks for reading; feedback, suggestions, etc ~ Rye

 

+1 Great idea.

The buff packs REALLY need a revamp too.

And like Rye said, the rewards doesn't have to be that big.. just create more of a competative enviroment again.

[Pardoux]

Looks like GvG from where I'm standing mate

 

Cheers.

 

wil72

 

Thankfully, cows disagreed with that and changed it