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[sweetlou]

Nagoyaka, on 27 Nov 2014 - 21:53, said:

Thank you for that. Should probably have an open discussion with the community about what they feel about it. Imo ladder tokens should be scrapped considering its a joke how they have been achieved, but dominance medal should be kept and made possible to progress further in the new pvp system.

 

Davros81, on 27 Nov 2014 - 22:49, said:

Agree on the tokens,NO WAY are they to be transferable to the new system or allowed to be exchanged for anything else but the current pvp rewards.

 

As for dominance, well most have gotten theirs lately by doing nothing except sit in ladders with their mates, either not hitting or trading hits, no dominance in that and it just devalues pvp.

I'm not surprised a couple of players who haven't seen a Ladder since before there were brackets, if even then, are spewing hatred and calling the Ladder a "joke" because someone else has done something they're unwilling to undertake for some righteous moral ground reasons. They're too good for that, the Ladder was easy attacking unbuffed players etc.... so they want those who have been playing it to suffer so their indignation will be justified. Hey, how do you know what Ladders were walk throughs? You both want to spew spite at those that have dominated their PvP range, in whatever way. What have you done? That's the joke! Just because nobody else is willing to lose xp and spend stamina playing the Ladder doesn't make the player sitting there alone or with a guildmate any less dominant. General Sun Tzu, the ancient Chinese strategist who is still heavily quoted today wrote, "To fight and conquer in all our battles is not supreme excellence; supreme excellence consists in breaking the enemy's resistance without fighting." Personally, I've been in some tough Ladder fights where I've had to stay buffed, and get buffed for almost 48 hrs. And I still didn't win it. That ain't easy. Have they all been like that? No. But who are you two to tell me and others like me that have been on the Ladder for months or years that our accomplishments are somehow beneath you, that I don't deserve to have my medal or the tokens I've earned retain value? I'd rather you'd go off and keep scripting at Titans and 'earn' your accomplishments in your own way.

[Rocknoor]

Luis, read your post with interest and I just have one question for you and it is not in relation to your medal, you state that you want your "earned" tokens to retain their value, and the question is: exactly what value do they have right now? If they in fact have little value relative to what they once were then they are like any other FS asset that at one time had substantial value but over time became obsolete. The fact that you chose to stay on the ladder acquiring tokens that had little value was your choice.  Keep your tokens but they should be used in the context that they were earned and not transferred into a new PvP context.

[bloody18]

Yuuzhan, on 27 Nov 2014 - 15:59, said:

For those of you interested in spoilers. current 50 and 51 levels can be seen here:

 

http://evolutions.yv...ages/composing/

 

Some very sexy buffs

thanks for posting your progress / spoilers =) I notepad them all 

[Davros81]

bilops, on 27 Nov 2014 - 23:37, said:

it is not possible to get any dominance progress if you are tied at 1000 pvp rating!

you have to be 1st in your band and have more than 1000 pvp rating (attack or get attacked) to get any dominance progress

What you have said is untrue actually, for a time people were gaining dominance by doing nothing, your own guild member stated as much in the below thread

 

https://forums.hunte...nized-for-some/

[bilops]

this only happened 2 times for a very short time and both times it was changed back quickly (if you have time browse the forum, you should find it there)

[BraveKath]

yotekiller, on 27 Nov 2014 - 14:39, said:

Guildmate sent me a composed pot and now my pack has disappeared.  No slots, no potion, no other items, nothing.  Also no count for pack, just shows /193)

  

Perhaps a surprise new compose Pot? 'Alakazam Bobbity Boo Nothing for You'  .... sorry, coming out of turkey coma and in a silly mood.  Hope it was sorted out.

Edited by BraveKath, 28 November 2014 - 10:08.

[Filletminion]

I think Tokens should not be transferable...They will always be able to make the old sets that they currently can.

 

The New System will need to have relevant sets/ components resources across all ranges for all players allowing old tokens to be used in that fashion would instantly destroy any value new sets would have and again kill activity in a part of the game that is being revitalized.

Edited by katatonic, 28 November 2014 - 10:01.

[BraveKath]

Hello!

 

Hopefully I've not skimmed over it, but I would like a means by which I can look at the composite /break down of a compose pot templates I have and now I don't have a means by which to see that except when the pot is completed.  

 

Sometimes I want to build a new one or re-do an old one slightly and I use my prior "recipes" to base that on.

If there's a way to see it in the new page set up, I apologize, as I'm just not seeing it.

While I do have this one request, I really think the new composing looks and functions great!

 

Thanks for your time and consideration, Kath

Edited by BraveKath, 28 November 2014 - 22:05.

[Maury Bund]

Zorg, on 27 Nov 2014 - 13:08, said:

Bank Improvements:

- Deposits available now reset at midnight each day, instead of 24 hours after last reset. A countdown can now be seen on the bank page.

Still not favoring the deposit change, but now I have to ask.

 

Before, Allegiance tokens reset and the deposit reset occurred at the same time and on the same log entry. Why did you untie them from each other to make one at a fixed time reset time with everything thing else in the game, yet leave this one floating around?

[Saxon]

Nagoyaka, on 27 Nov 2014 - 21:53, said:

Thank you for that. Should probably have an open discussion with the community about what they feel about it. Imo ladder tokens should be scrapped considering its a joke how they have been achieved, but dominance medal should be kept and made possible to progress further in the new pvp system.

 

In your opinion?

 

I know one thing, I spent a lot of stam and pots 'fighting' for my dominance medal and tokens.

 

Maybe opting in will prove to you its not just a watching game - in certain ladder bands.

[Rocknoor]

BraveKath, when you have an open slot to compose potions where it says use template, open the drop down screen at the bottom of the list of your composing templates is one for "new design", open that and construct the potion you want and it will show you the fragment cost like the old composing screen did prior to making the actual potion.

Edited by Rocknoor, 28 November 2014 - 10:57.

[savipats]

I'm nor sure how should one be able to delete a template from composing page now?

 

unless you had the direct link bookmarked earlier...

http://www.fallenswo...bcmd=create&m=1

[Nordom0]

savipats, on 28 Nov 2014 - 11:05, said:

I'm nor sure how should one be able to delete a template from composing page now?

 

I deleted one Earlier, when you go to New Template it had a drop down for templates near the top like it used to, i selected the template and then hit the delete template button like before

[Rocknoor]

Saxon, on 28 Nov 2014 - 10:23, said:

In your opinion?

 

I know one thing, I spent a lot of stam and pots 'fighting' for my dominance medal and tokens.

 

Maybe opting in will prove to you its not just a watching game - in certain ladder bands.

Not to belabor a point but in looking at your ladder band it consists of 5 Evil Dead players sitting there doing nothing but collecting tokens, should you opt in I believe you would not find yourself in a PvP environment but in a Player vs Guild, one where you are everybody's sole target. This is not pointing fingers at that guild it's just a fact that the token rewards are just not worth participating in the ladder once you've obtained the Dominance and Smasher medals you are content with and you have constructed the token sets you want. I like my Dominance and Smasher medals and would like to keep them, however the tokens that I have should remain in the context they were earned and not transferred to the whatever new PvP system is instituted.

Edited by Rocknoor, 28 November 2014 - 11:29.

[yotekiller]

5 members of the same guild on the ladder means you have 5 targets and they each have 1.  Looks like a big advantage to the single player to me, especially with Deflect involved.  Matter of perspective and whether or not you want to compete or be handed a gift.

[savipats]

Nordom0, on 28 Nov 2014 - 11:12, said:

I deleted one Earlier, when you go to New Template it had a drop down for templates near the top like it used to, i selected the template and then hit the delete template button like before

 

ahh.... i see now....  Create Potion---> New Design---> and you can do it from there...

still, it seems an awkward submenu to search for it...

Wouldnt it be more sensible to add a "Manage Templates" button to the composing main page, 

and from there you could choose "add template", "edit template", "delete template" and whynot "purchace additional templates" (linking to relevant +1 Composing Template on the upgrades page)....

[BigGrim]

savipats said

- Pride:
+0.5 seconds per point multiplied by the number of medals you have increase in duration of any potions taken while this skill is active.
 
Please explain, is it distinguished depending on the medals "color" too or not...  i.e. does any medal regardless of whether its bronze, gold or ruby etc count as 1, or lets say, a diamond medal counts as 6 in your given skill description....?

Lahona said

Also, does this potion work like distil does, is the duration of potions set even though the pride potion expires?

Both good questions.

Davros81 said

Agree on the tokens,NO WAY are they to be transferable to the new system or allowed to be exchanged for anything else but the current pvp rewards.

Agreed.

[3JS]

I've fought through some pretty brutal ladders, personally. They have progressively gotten a little easier as time went on, mostly because it's not an easy task to stay buffed to the nines for 2 straight days, log on several times a day to repair your items, and spend a couple thousand stam hitting the others in your band.....just for 5 tokens. I remain opted in, however. So, don't tell me that our tokens and medals haven't been earned. Some have been at it since the beginning, and still remain to this day. 

 

It's funny how it was mentioned about other so called "unearned" medals achieved by scripting, and we all know what he was talking about, but no one wants to touch that one. Stay up there on your high horses. Us peons down here will still be plugging away.

[BigGrim]

Do try to remain civil please.

[Davros81]

Rocknoor, on 28 Nov 2014 - 11:27, said:

Not to belabor a point but in looking at your ladder band it consists of 5 Evil Dead players sitting there doing nothing but collecting tokens, should you opt in I believe you would not find yourself in a PvP environment but in a Player vs Guild, one where you are everybody's sole target. This is not pointing fingers at that guild it's just a fact that the token rewards are just not worth participating in the ladder once you've obtained the Dominance and Smasher medals you are content with and you have constructed the token sets you want. I like my Dominance and Smasher medals and would like to keep them, however the tokens that I have should remain in the context they were earned and not transferred to the whatever new PvP system is instituted.

Agreed that is precisely the problem it no longer becomes pvp it is PvG and they get to decide who wins essentially, I have seen it occur far to often.