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[wil72]

Of al the bounties I have placed (and I have placed many), not a single one got 5 levels off. the vast majority of the time, it's a soft clear by a guild that just happens to be an ally for the hitter. With this update, it's 2.5 levels off? So better then now.

 

You need to put a bit of work in to get the 5 levels taken. Just posting a bounty wont cut it mate.

 

I think those that purely level and think the BBoard changes are all they have ever wished for are going to be in for a big surprise

 

Cheers.

 

wil72

[duktayp]

[Melons]

If this is the "PvP update" I was waiting for this whole time, then I am truly disappointed. The removal of level ranges makes it impossible to compete unless you are EOC. I actually liked this system in the beginning, until I heard an EOC player could PvP a level 100 player. How is that even remotely fair? Also, how are guilds going protect their own members now? What happened to the "punishment" factor? This is honestly ridiculously. I'd rather have this current system than this one, imo. Anyways, no point of expressing my opinion. Apparently, the cows have already made their mind on which way the game will be heading. 

[Ghafla]

For me as a leveller these PvP changes look horrible at first glance - why on earth is the PvP league stuff mandatory?

On the other hand - if all the PvPers run amok because of this proposal, it might be not THAT bad.
I have to admit that I simply have no clue what Zorg tried to introduce to us in the first post concerning the leagues.

But what I'm predicting towards the BB change is the end of the BB.
Maybe the board is nearly dead nowadays, but implementating the proposed changes would really be peeing on it's grave.
* 1-hit-bounties?!? A joke, since there's no "hunting" anymore.
* XP loss a FIX .2 level? What a penalty! 8/
* auto-bounty based on gold stolen? In most cases the victims cling more to their XP than to the gold lost. So the XP lost (and on top of that the number of attacks -even deflected ones- within a given period of time) have to be taken into account too!
* NO possibility to place bounties anymore?!? That's pathetic. It has to remain the sole right of the victim to decide if and when it wants to bounty.

Edited by BigGrim, 18 June 2015 - 09:20.
No swearing please.

[matt2269f]

normal soft clear is 10x10x2 - new rules = 1x50 x2 /old soft clear bounty = 2x100 stam //new = 1x1100 stam -basically it comes down to u lose 2x what u took

 

players still should have the option to bounty instead of wondering if the game decides if the hit was worthy of a bounty

Edited by matt2269f, 17 June 2015 - 22:26.

[cramble27]

Also, how are guilds going protect their own members now? What happened to the "punishment" factor? 

 

 

I have heard this alot but I am confused.  Protect members from what exactly?  Why does there need to be a player based punishment factor?

Edited by cramble27, 17 June 2015 - 22:24.

[yotwehc]

As I read the possible update, bounties will be one, costing 50 stamina and doing as much damage to xp as a 100 stamina hit currently does, which is basically equal to 10 x 10 stamina hits. Not the 2.5 levels you are perceiving.

 

As for never getting 5 levels off on a bounty you placed, did you get your friends and guildmates together to hit, or were you expecting some random person to just step up and throw 1000 stamina vs 100 stamina + stamina for buffs for someone they probably don't know for most likely 1 purple dot? I get soft cleared often, and most of these people aren't my friends, they are just conserving their stamina.

Thanks for clearing up the 2.5 levels thing.

 

Only reason I bring up the "I have never had anyone clear a bounty for 5 levels" is because people keep saying that is an option. It's only an option if you drag everyone into that style of play and for most, that is not an option. Don't say to a leveler that we are at risk of losing 5 levels because it isn't. I and anyone else I drag in would lose far more.

[yotwehc]

where you getting the 2.5 levels  ?

the bounty will be 1 x50 stam hit.. the cows have said all hits will be 50 stam, but be as effective as 100 stam is now..

so a bounty will be exactly the same as a 10 stam soft clear is now...

Noob = me. Understand. So no change for me then since that is all i get now anyway.

[Melons]

I have heard this alot but I am confused.  Protect members from what exactly?  Why does there need to be a player based punishment factor?

The cows made the board as a punishment factor against PvP attacks. That's the difference between PvP and GvG. In GvG, there are no repercussion when you attack someone else, while that's the opposite for PvP. Making bounties only 1-hit equal exp loss to a 10stam clear now isn't really a punishment. That's not the main thing I'm upset about. It's how they will revamp the board. There is no more "bounty hunter" and challenge when doing a bounty. This update will kill the board.

[yotwehc]

You need to put a bit of work in to get the 5 levels taken. Just posting a bounty wont cut it mate.

 

I think those that purely level and think the BBoard changes are all they have ever wished for are going to be in for a big surprise

 

Cheers.

 

wil72

I'm still on the fence on this. At first I thought this is horrible... then I noticed many who love this play hate it... so I'm thinking it must be good for levelers. But I'm having trouble figuring out what that is. One good thing for me personally would be that I won't be afraid of the bounty board. I have a line of people who would like to take me down a few notches adn only one gets to at a time.

[matt2269f]

i got a suggestion for that if they stick with the 1 hit clear ( 50 stam hit 2x xp loss) a cool down period on accepting bounties say 3-5 mins / as for the auto bounty it should go into effect with either a 1 in 2 chance or 1 in 3 chance regardless of gold loss 

[smileynirv]

stop being chewy and you will be ok 

stop being chewy and you will be ok 

[cramble27]

The cows made the board as a punishment factor against PvP attacks. That's the difference between PvP and GvG. In GvG, there are no repercussion when you attack someone else, while that's the opposite for PvP. Making bounties only 1-hit equal exp loss to a 10stam clear now isn't really a punishment. That's not the main thing I'm upset about. It's how they will revamp the board. There is no more "bounty hunter" and challenge when doing a bounty. This update will kill the board.

 

Yeah and it never made sense to me.  PvP'ers don't care if they get put on the bounty board, they love it and brag about losing levels.

But levelers obviously hate losing levels.

So the only one being punished by this system are the levelers.  How do you punish a PvP'er?

I like the idea of opting in or out, that way the people who want to participate in PvP can, but those who do not like that aspect of the game, do not have to.  I know the Cows have said this is a PvP game, but I don't see why "Attacking" has to be the only forced interaction.  

[matt2269f]

there should be an opt out - for those that want no part of it (ladder part) i dont think its fair to those of us that dont want to be a part of it (yes normal pvp for gold is gonna happen) but i dont want to be an easy target for someone to farm whatever cuz im in stam gear - its bad enough epics have lost so much value but for me to repeatedly be hit and not for gold cuz im in stam gear is really gonna annoy me - what good are epics if i cant wear them cuz players are gonna target me and cost me xp repeatedly

[Melissa3]

I'm still on the fence on this. At first I thought this is horrible... then I noticed many who love this play hate it... so I'm thinking it must be good for levelers. But I'm having trouble figuring out what that is. One good thing for me personally would be that I won't be afraid of the bounty board. I have a line of people who would like to take me down a few notches adn only one gets to at a time.

Yes .  Im plus one on this.  Im sure i have a large queue of pvpers who are itching to see me on the bounty board because I have refused to play the game their way and wont hit back when hit.  At least with these changes I know i wont be brought down 5 levels if I do choose to pvp.

 

I have probably placed at least a thousand bounties as I have been made a target by many groups and i will always take all hits to the bounty board ( whether a hit is win , lose or deflect). 

 

So this change seems a positive for me.  It will save me a fortune on the bounty board !! .

[wil72]

I'm still on the fence on this. At first I thought this is horrible... then I noticed many who love this play hate it... so I'm thinking it must be good for levelers. But I'm having trouble figuring out what that is. One good thing for me personally would be that I won't be afraid of the bounty board. I have a line of people who would like to take me down a few notches adn only one gets to at a time.

 

No notches lost mate, no counter bounties. Everything is automated under new proposals. Gold stolen related. It's the non league PvP hits you need to watch out for

 

Cheers.

 

wil72

[matt2269f]

how can u say no counters ? if hunters clears bounty but gold is lost do they go to bb?

[Melons]

Yeah and it never made sense to me.  PvP'ers don't care if they get put on the bounty board, they love it and brag about losing levels.

But levelers obviously hate losing levels.

So the only one being punished by this system are the levelers.  How do you punish a PvP'er?

I like the idea of opting in or out, that way the people who want to participate in PvP can, but those who do not like that aspect of the game, do not have to.  I know the Cows have said this is a PvP game, but I don't see why "Attacking" has to be the only forced interaction.  

Actually, I do care about my levels. Why? Because I revolve my PvP set-ups around them. When I get deleveled, I check if I can use a set-up or not. The reason I don't whine like some people is because I understand when I make a hit that I can lose levels for it and not just get away without any repercussions. The whole risk is what makes want to play PvP, not knowing if I will log on to see my logs filled with 100stams hits. 

Edited by Melons, 17 June 2015 - 22:50.

[Hoofmaster]

The bounty board in its current incarnation isn't very active. I think keeping it to 1-hit makes it work better as a system. Having the game post the bounties based on gold stolen should keep the list active and busy.

 

But I'm not opposed to also allowing players to post bounties - I'd think it would make sense to only allow bounties to be posted for 'unranked' PvP attacks though as this is where a player has specifically chosen to attack another player to reduce their xp or steal gold. I'm not saying it's something we'll definitely include in the new format, but something we can definitely consider if people would prefer we keep it as part of the bounty board?

[wazzimoto]

From what I have read and understand.....now a Guildmate can be hit hourly....and their Guild can do absolutely nothing to help them (retaliate) ...unless you sit staring at the BB for 24 hours a day and hope the person gets bountied......THEN.....you get to smash them once with 50 stam??   OMG......just when I started to enjoy PvP..... it DIES......this sounds crazy.....    Might be time to retire! 

RIP BB.......