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Edited by matt2269f, 20 August 2015 - 17:33.
Posted 20 August 2015 - 04:11
it had more activity because it was pillow fighting with EPIC REWARDS, so everyone who was afraid from XP loss rushed into it, now we have a real challenge with no EPIC REWARDS, you just want the easy way of having pillow fights, no XP loss, not even durability loss and EPIC rewards, and you think attacking people in epic gear is bad ? Then what do you think of attacking players thousands of level below you ? If that's the change we can het then I don't want it with all do respect but complete objection on your ideaone thing i dont understand is why hcs replaced ladder with seasons instead of it just being a new form of pvp in addition to the old
some of the pvprs complain and complain cuz they want change yet they want to sit in certain lvls zones and prey on others yet claim they like pvp but mainly hit non pvpers in non pvp gear
if pvp is so liked why isnt it mainly pvprs vs pvprs after all you want a challenge right?
wait thats what the ladder was yet it was dead in almost every bracket and its deadness is being blamed on lack of decent rewards while the whole time the pvp community keeps saying its not about the rewards
too many contradictions from you guys
hcs introduced a new form of pvp and bloody murder was screamed yet it had more pvp activity than there has probably been in a yr and it cant be blamed on the rewards cuz no one had a clue what they would be
i here claims of lets go back to the old days - the world doesnt work that way it just keeps changing and moving forward
Posted 20 August 2015 - 05:40
you just stated why PvP seasons is a bad idea, and seriously ? 6 levels ? That's the average I lose on a normal day not in a 2 week pillow fightonly the titan league had no lvl restrictions -the original league did and no one knew what the rewards were the 1st rd - whats sad is the 1st rd was super active - the 2nd rd not as much and players had an idea of rewards by then -just think if there had been xp loss you prob would be around lvl 250 atm
as for the pillow fighting as u call it i went down 6 lvs and around 40k stam used with a high lvl conserve active and spent a ton of gold / fsp
Posted 20 August 2015 - 05:41
you just stated why PvP seasons is a bad idea, and seriously ? 6 levels ? That's the average I lose on a normal day not in a 2 week pillow fight
You aren't losing 6 levels a day.
Posted 20 August 2015 - 05:43
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Posted 20 August 2015 - 05:58
You aren't losing 6 levels a day.
I was talking about PvP in general, including BB, and ofcourse how am I supposed to lose levels now when I can't get bountied for anything, I even attack other players and I didn't get bountied, shouls you blame me for defending right on ladder ? LOLur so full of it - back in the day me and dually would smash each other all day long and no one ever lost 6 lvls in a day 1 maybe 2 at max
Posted 20 August 2015 - 06:04
You are right, we can take this discussion to PMsAnd here we go down the old PvP thread rabbit hole. In flames.
Chill out guys. No-one is winning the internet tonight.
Posted 20 August 2015 - 06:06
my apologies i removed my own posts as it was off topic
Edited by matt2269f, 20 August 2015 - 17:34.
Posted 20 August 2015 - 10:16
Please stay on topic
Posted 20 August 2015 - 21:17
Please put together a list of what you, the PvPer really wants. Consider the whole PvP community and not how you can get the upper hand for yourself alone, or your guild.
Submit it to Hoof, then see what the coders can do with it. Who knows you might get something that really works.
You should also stop all this: I want , I want, I want. You are not alone in PvP but from the way you sound you think you are.
That's why you want to stay within a set level range and pick off the new blood coming up.
That's a real pity. Think of all those EOC players you could go postal on it you only worked a little more. lol
Posted 20 August 2015 - 21:52
btw I never speak of my own opinions only, I speak for those who get disgusted from looking at the forums, I speak for aclot of PvPers, hoof said offer ideas and that's what we are all trying to do, I am also not sitting at my level range and target new players, I am actually the lowest level on my ladder and I will be opting out and going for a new stop after the next reset, on the other hand, you seem not to be a PvPer and this is a PvP suggestions thread sooo ... ....Please put together a list of what you, the PvPer really wants. Consider the whole PvP community and not how you can get the upper hand for yourself alone, or your guild.
Submit it to Hoof, then see what the coders can do with it. Who knows you might get something that really works.
You should also stop all this: I want , I want, I want. You are not alone in PvP but from the way you sound you think you are.
That's why you want to stay within a set level range and pick off the new blood coming up.
That's a real pity. Think of all those EOC players you could go postal on it you only worked a little more. lol
Posted 20 August 2015 - 22:09
I speak from the perspective of the neon target that I can't seem to shake no matter what I say or do.
If you could not hit me, I would not be here posting.
I seek something that gives me some form of balance to play the game I'm supposedly supposed to be able to play my way.
I do not wish to be the organ grinders monkey spinning the little handle on the jack-n-the-box only to push the clown head back down when it pops up.
It is in among these posts that I read when PvPers are asking for something which can and might have a direct impact on my quality of play.
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Edited by Pythia, 20 August 2015 - 22:13.
Posted 20 August 2015 - 22:22
it had more activity because it was pillow fighting with EPIC REWARDS, so everyone who was afraid from XP loss rushed into it, now we have a real challenge with no EPIC REWARDS, you just want the easy way of having pillow fights, no XP loss, not even durability loss and EPIC rewards, and you think attacking people in epic gear is bad ? Then what do you think of attacking players thousands of level below you ? If that's the change we can het then I don't want it with all do respect but complete objection on your idea
Wasn't a pillow fight to start with, XP loss was initially part of seasonal dualling. Plus, no one had a clue what rewards would be given for advanced leagues. And activity at the start was high, high, HIGH. Hmmm.
Cheers.
wil72
Edited by wil72, 20 August 2015 - 22:23.
Posted 20 August 2015 - 22:57
It had participation cuz its a new thing everyone wanted to try it or actually were forced to try it as at the beginning there was no opt out, every single player in the game was opt-ed in into it, then you added opt-out and a lot opted-out, and then you asked for removal of XP loss, then it was removed so phonies opted-in, makes sense now why it had participation ? However its not the subject here so you can start a new topic and we can talk thereWasn't a pillow fight to start with, XP loss was initially part of seasonal dualling. Plus, no one had a clue what rewards would be given for advanced leagues. And activity at the start was high, high, HIGH. Hmmm.
Cheers.
wil72
Posted 20 August 2015 - 22:58
does a 10% chance of getting attacked for a gold hit during your hunt hurts you that bad ?I speak from the perspective of the neon target that I can't seem to shake no matter what I say or do.
If you could not hit me, I would not be here posting.
I seek something that gives me some form of balance to play the game I'm supposedly supposed to be able to play my way.
I do not wish to be the organ grinders monkey spinning the little handle on the jack-n-the-box only to push the clown head back down when it pops up.
It is in among these posts that I read when PvPers are asking for something which can and might have a direct impact on my quality of play.
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Posted 20 August 2015 - 23:00
Posted 21 August 2015 - 00:05
btw I never speak of my own opinions only, I speak for those who get disgusted from looking at the forums, I speak for aclot of PvPers, hoof said offer ideas and that's what we are all trying to do, I am also not sitting at my level range and target new players, I am actually the lowest level on my ladder and I will be opting out and going for a new stop after the next reset, on the other hand, you seem not to be a PvPer and this is a PvP suggestions thread sooo ... ....
does a 10% chance of getting attacked for a gold hit during your hunt hurts you that bad ?
BTW, I was hunting during seasons and lost about 400K during my hunt, I didn't cry about it, I didn't make a thread about it, I didn't post in the forums about it, I didn't send in a ticket about it, I didn't even PM the attackers or put gold on their bounties, whats tne big deal ?
So you say she doesn't "PVP" so should have no say here yet you acknowledge that she could be the 2nd "P" in "PVP" and should quit crying.
BTW, she doesn't send in a ticket nor PM the attacker nor put gold on their bounty. So what? She is giving voice to an opposing view and you seem to want to cover your ears and go "blah blah blah" so you can't hear what others have to say. If it was your way, we would lose PVP protection among other things. It would be great if there was acknowledgement that some people just like to play the game differently. The biggest disasters happen when folks are forced... like a broken record, I will keep reference Smasher Medal roll out and Seasons Roll out... everyone was forced and all heck broke loose.
Not sure if you noticed but the folks really wanting to change the game are the PVP'rs... look at all the posts.
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Posted 21 August 2015 - 00:20
you are a leveller who never tried to PvP, this is a PvP improvement thread, how can you improve somethibg you never tried ?So you say she doesn't "PVP" so should have no say here yet you acknowledge that she could be the 2nd "P" in "PVP" and should quit crying.
BTW, she doesn't send in a ticket nor PM the attacker nor put gold on their bounty. So what? She is giving voice to an opposing view and you seem to want to cover your ears and go "blah blah blah" so you can't hear what others have to say. If it was your way, we would lose PVP protection among other things. It would be great if there was acknowledgement that some people just like to play the game differently. The biggest disasters happen when folks are forced... like a broken record, I will keep reference Smasher Medal roll out and Seasons Roll out... everyone was forced and all heck broke loose.
Not sure if you noticed but the folks really wanting to change the game are the PVP'rs... look at all the posts.
:/
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