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[clock96]

Pardoux, on 20 Aug 2015 - 15:13, said:

Shows how much you know ...
 
EVERYONE hunts in a maximum of 1 hr ?
 
Don't think so ...

If I can hunt in an hour with my slow connection then everyone should xD, and if you mean high levels who have tons of stam, they use high lvl doubler too, so they can finish in an hour, and if tbe potion is one hour and hou use a BM with it then it should be enough to do your hunt or what do you think ? I am not an expert in hunting though but I think this amount of time should be good

[Hoofmaster]

Leos3000, on 20 Aug 2015 - 15:30, said:

No prestige should be bound. Other types maybe unbound, but not prestige.

 

Aye I think the PvP Prestige potion should be bound, but we can look at other potions having bound / unbound options.

[Maehdros]

As someone who believes everything should be bound, if you are intent on making some rewards unbound , can they cost 2x as much to do so?

[Necra]

i love potion  but seriusly how many potions can u make.........   try ultimate gear with weeks life span or 3 days imortality for pvp or hunting   or have the HCS graphic artist do avi for the player - that was cool that one time.  

Edited by Necra, 20 August 2015 - 15:47.

[yotekiller]

Maehdros, on 20 Aug 2015 - 15:43, said:

As someone who believes everything should be bound, if you are intent on making some rewards unbound , can they cost 2x as much to do so?

My original idea on this posted somewhere was for unbound pots to be double cost and shorter duration than the bound versions.

[Kedyn]

yotekiller, on 20 Aug 2015 - 17:04, said:

My original idea on this posted somewhere was for unbound pots to be double cost and shorter duration than the bound versions.

 

+1 to yote's and Maeh's post. Unbound potions should cost more than bound. It would also be great to see lesser duration on the unbound potions, as they can be made for profit. If they are bound to the person, it can only be used for personal use. 

[yodamus]

all pots should be bound, that maybe would help get more activity in pvp..if the only way you can get those great pots is to pvp, that is how it should be..and would possibly encourage other to try pvp..making them unbound would defeat this as almost all players would just wait and buy from ah,  no matter what the cost..

[bigchaos]

I have a question and I am not sure where to find the information for the spirit of pvp quest item. I am wondering what is this for and  how do you use it? I just picked up my goodies and any input on season trophy bound what is being done with this as well will help. Thank you 

[Brice]

I have a kind off topic Question....when HCS went back to the old PvP system I noticed that they reissued everyone's PvP Ladder tokens....BUT WHY DIDNT US PLAYERS THAT HORDED AND WORK HARK FOR OUR PRESTIGE BANK NOT GET IT BACK???? I like seeing 7,000+ PvP prestige in my stats...and would have loved to have been able to regulate it.....oh well...guess I will just have to rebuild it

Edited by Brice, 20 August 2015 - 23:29.

[Kbyte]

All prices should be though as players gain that tokens in each position and the time it takes to get enought tokens to purchage the itens and potions on this new "pvp shop".

 

If top 5 gain pvp tokens: 1st: 5 / 2nd: 4 / 3rd: 3 / 4th: 2 / 5th: 1

 

the player on the 5th position getting 1 token per reset (24h~48h), on average 1.5 days, if he stay 1 Month [30 days] on the ladder s/he May gain 20 tokens / 4th 40 tokens and on...

 

5 tokens would be 1 week for that player on 5th position [an bound pvp prestige pot would be able to be purchaged once per week | so still not bad even for him/her join the ladder]

 

 

other prizes there could be more expensive [and unbound to be able to be sold on ah] to make players there to spend pvp tokens faster:

 

Brewing Master 300  => 20 tokens

 

Cloak 100 => 20 tokens

 

Gloat 250 [60 min] => 5 pvp tokens

 

Extend 250 [60 min] => 5 pvp tokens

 

Erosion 200 [180 min like the buff] => 10 pvp tokens

 

Shame 200 [180 min] => 10 pvp tokens

 

Last Ditch [potion of lazarus - could increase the duration to 180 min] => 10 pvp tokens

 

PvP Prestige Pot (bound) [90 min] => 5 pvp tokens

 

PvP Prestige Pot (bound) [180 min]  => 10 pvp tokens

 

 

 --- If PvP prestige pots were being able to sell on AH, it would be like this: "here sir, I can make you looks as you won an competition feel times for X fsp" hehe. ---

 

[that player on 5th position could buy BM300 after staying on the ladder for 1 entire month instead of getting pvp prestige pots if s/he prefers]

 

 

[Some of those prizes are based arena shop | but there could be some only arena (LF pot / doubler / Lib / hidden coffer / conserve for example which is more leveling than pvp) and some only pvp shop]

 

 

* We know that players can take turn on ladder position but just to make things more easy I'm considering they staying on the same position to see better the diferrence in tokens players will get. [to avoid any issues with ladder before pvp season and now - there could make now these tokens different and old tokens convertable to this new tokens: 1 new token = 10 old pvp token to don't make an huge impact on the ah economy right now]

 

* The tokens gained after pvp season could already be changed to the new one [and set to top 5 on each ladder band in proportion to their position].

 

 

Here some other suggestions I've made:

 

Special Bonus on Ladder: https://forums.hunte...e-4#entry945497

 

Ladder level range: https://forums.hunte...e-5#entry945948

 

Questbook improvement: https://forums.hunte...on/#entry937982

 

New medals and guild medals: https://forums.hunte...ls/#entry920455

Edited by Kbyte, 21 August 2015 - 00:23.

[Olef]

Kbyte, on 20 Aug 2015 - 23:32, said:

Cloak 100 => 20 tokens

 

Gloat 250 [60 min] => 5 pvp tokens

 

Extend 250 [60 min] => 5 pvp tokens

 

Erosion 200 [180 min like the buff] => 10 pvp tokens

 

Shame 200 [180 min] => 10 pvp tokens

 

Last Ditch [potion of lazarus - could increase the duration to 180 min] => 10 pvp tokens

 

PvP Prestige Pot (bound) [90 min] => 5 pvp tokens

 

PvP Prestige Pot (bound) [180 min]  => 10 pvp tokens

the duration of the potions need to be increased by factors and token prices reduced

 

when I play a ladder I use several potions and using your token prices I could only afford to buy one token potion every ladder reset at 5 tokens if I get first place with 5 token as price. if I do not get first place I can not afford one

 

the pvp season gave everyone prices, big chests with a very long duration

[Kbyte]

Olef, on 21 Aug 2015 - 00:20, said:

the duration of the potions need to be increased by factors and token prices reduced

 

when I play a ladder I use several potions and using your token prices I could only afford to buy one token potion every ladder reset at 5 tokens if I get first place with 5 token as price. if I do not get first place I can not afford one

 

the pvp season gave everyone prices, big chests with a very long duration

 

I was thinking about letting them unbound; now thinking better after reading you comment to be able to use it more often (and even once per reset the player on 5th position to be able to buy an pot some could be 1 pvp token and bound but the unbound "alternative" could cost double, so 2 tokens)

 

Those are just some suggestion (other buffs could be added also or instead).

 

The ones which also has on arena are unbound only [more expensive than the bound ones], later the community may reach an agreement with the prices, buffs and duration [hopefully on next few comment on this thread].

 

Trying to correct price here [feel free to suggest an better price]

 

 

Brewing Master 300  => 10 tokens

 

Gloat 250 [60 min - bound] => 1 pvp tokens

 

Gloat 250 [60 min - unbound] => 2 pvp tokens

 

Extend 250 [60 min - bound] => 1 pvp tokens

 

Extend 250 [60 min - unbound] => 2 pvp tokens

 

Erosion 200 [180 min like the buff - bound] => 1 pvp tokens

 

Erosion 200 [180 min like the buff - unbound] => 2 pvp tokens

 

Shame 200 [180 min - bound] => 1 pvp tokens

 

Shame 200 [180 min - unbound] => 2 pvp tokens

 

Last Ditch [potion of lazarus - could increase the duration to 180 min] => 2 pvp tokens

 

 

And better no pvp prestige pot from ladder => let it only be gained the normal way: pvping [normal pvp, bounty board]

Edited by Kbyte, 21 August 2015 - 02:51.

[lilhotshot]

I'd like to see more people on the ladders so I'd say making sellable items worth decent fsp would help that a lot of ppl don't join the ladders cause there's nothing worth buying

[mary4ever]

I hope we can expect NEW PvP ladder rewards next week

 

rewards that will draw activity to the PvP ladder !!!

 

there have been very good ideas in this thread like (pots, stam gain, frag stashes, ....)

 

I still do not believe that new sets would be good (HCS will have to create many new sets) but instead introduce something like “Synthesize” to let players choose which sets they want to boost !!!

• For the PvP Ladder introduce “Synthesize”

“Synthesize” is an Artisanship like “Crafting” and “Hell Forge” (can be later found under: actions => “Synthesize”) BUT with the difference that uses “Soul Stones” / Tokens too which can be acquired as rewards from the PvP Ladder !!!

“Synthesize” can increase your items stats depending on the Synthesize-level !!!

Synthesized items will have a “+” next to their names !!!

This way HCS will not need to worry about releasing new items + this will increase PvP activity and even get players to start doing PvP :-D

[Hoofmaster]

We've just added two new rewards to the PvP Ladder!

 

Greater Cloak [Potion] - 5 PvP Ladder Tokens

Prestigious Brew [Bound Potion] - 15 PvP Ladder Tokens

 

You can check out the rewards on the PvP Rewards page by clicking here.

 

Note we intend to add more in the future, however we hope you like these latest additions

[Lsrpm]

Think you guys messed up giving these types of potions to start out with. I know its a bit early and you will add more but I honestly do not see a point in a prestige pot..

 

If we have to get 30 tokens just to get the pot..Wouldnt we roughly already have 10% prestige? Idk..guess its more a quality of life change..

 

You guys are so used to spoiling us with ridiculous potions all the time so maybe I just feel like these are underwhelming compared to previous potions

[Hoofmaster]

Lsrpm, on 25 Aug 2015 - 14:23, said:

Think you guys messed up giving these types of potions to start out with. I know its a bit early and you will add more but I honestly do not see a point in a prestige pot..

 

If we have to get 30 tokens just to get the pot..Wouldnt we roughly already have 10% prestige? Idk..guess its more a quality of life change..

 

You guys are so used to spoiling us with ridiculous potions all the time so maybe I just feel like these are underwhelming compared to previous potions

 

We're planning to add a lot more rewards, we just wanted to get the first of the new rewards added sooner rather than later as I know people have been waiting a while for them!

[Bluetail]

These are mad expensive for how useless they are to PvP.

[AdrianRentea]

Blue Tail, on 25 Aug 2015 - 14:44, said:

These are mad expensive for how useless they are to PvP.

+1

[mary4ever]

I am very happy to see new PvP ladder prices BUT hope you will consider the TOKEN prices !!

 

I mean 25 tokens for a cloak 450 min is too expensive considering 1 PvP ladder reset lasts ~1,5 days, so if you manage to place 5 times in a row 1st place you will get 25 tokens in ~7,5 days !!!

 

lesser cloak for 90 min in AH costs 10k gold so for 50k gold I could get 450 min instead of the PvP ladder pot which will take me AT LEAST ~7,5 days IF I manage to place 5 times in a row 1st place which is very difficult !!!

 

NOTE:

For PvP Bands below level 750, the top 3 players receive 5, 2 and 1 PvP Ladder Tokens respectively.

For level 750+ PvP Bands the top 5 players receive 5, 3, 2, 1 and 1 PvP Ladder Tokens respectively.

 

imagine how long it will "really" take players to get 25 tokens just for a clock 450 min pot which would only cost them 50k gold in AH + only need to wait about 1 hour or less to get !!

 

conclusion:

PvP ladder rewards need to be "decently" affordable, especially the potions & they need to have a long duration !!!

Edited by mary4ever, 25 August 2015 - 15:06.