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#1 Corrupted

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Posted 29 June 2016 - 17:46

Me and some friends have been wondering if there is a chance of THE Seasons coming back around as an Event.

 

I really had fun back then, and I am sure there are plenty more that would like to see it back again :)



#2 Josh1404

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Posted 29 June 2016 - 17:53

I agree it would be great to see this back again in some form. I think many would participate if it were to return.

 

Would be great to hear an admin's take on this subject to. Is it on the list of many many things to do? :P



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Posted 29 June 2016 - 18:05

Didn't seasons get voted down by the majority of the community? I think the poll asked if it should be tweaked and improved but the no's won?

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Posted 29 June 2016 - 18:53

Didn't seasons get voted down by the majority of the community? I think the poll asked if it should be tweaked and improved but the no's won?

 

as best i can remember the poll simply asked "do you like the seasons update?" with the only options yes or no

 

because there were problems with it (like most updates when first initiated) a number of players that liked it but wanted it tweaked had no choice but to answer "no"



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Posted 29 June 2016 - 19:06

No plans to bring them back in the original form, but I'll have a think as to how they could be integrated into the game in another form. I mean by that they wouldn't replace another aspect of the game, but rather be another thing you could take part in if you wanted too :)



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Posted 29 June 2016 - 19:25

No plans to bring them back in the original form, but I'll have a think as to how they could be integrated into the game in another form. I mean by that they wouldn't replace another aspect of the game, but rather be another thing you could take part in if you wanted too :)

Thanks a lot for the reply Hoof, appreciate it :)



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Posted 30 June 2016 - 12:55

Thanks a lot for the reply Hoof, appreciate it :)

 

No problem! Happy to chat about how it could be tweaked to work in the game as an additional event that players can take part in :)



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Posted 30 June 2016 - 12:57

How about a pvp global event, you need X number of hits to qualify and a global total of xp stolen :D



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Posted 30 June 2016 - 19:13

It's been so long I can't remember what has been said, but def sounds like an excellent idea.

Doing something like this is the best way to show how PvP is part of the game and can be fun.

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Posted 30 June 2016 - 22:22

yes please....some type of global pvp event would be AWESOME!! however another offshoot of the pvp ladder could be PvP seasons....ladder is basically just practice area for the actual pvp seasons...which would be a harder hitting and wider level range of targets/hitters/defenders....could be pretty great actually...those who want to remain on ladder can do so....those of us who want something a bit more HARDCORE can participate in both or just pvp season....just my $.02


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Posted 01 July 2016 - 02:11

@ DomCorvis like your 2 cents myself and think that seasons should be a random ge for the community. I enjoyed the first one and according to hoof we will see some kind of changes.  Thank you HCS staff for the comments and please do give updates on seasons and possible changes. ;)  

 

I am thinking I like to see seasons set up as King or Queen of seasons mountain and made into global event.  :P



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Posted 01 July 2016 - 06:11

No plans to bring them back in the original form, but I'll have a think as to how they could be integrated into the game in another form. I mean by that they wouldn't replace another aspect of the game, but rather be another thing you could take part in if you wanted too :)

 

This quote actually depresses me.

 

I thought some thought had already been put into using the seasons template for a PvP global before now. Maybe I'm over-analysing this, but I could swear we have been told before on the forum that the seasons were being looked at with a view to making them into a global. Months ago. Maybe I'm just remembering lots of player chat and no Dev input, but I could swear, without doing a forum search, that a dev or two, possibly including Hoof, had indicated that the seasons model would be looked at with a view to converting it to a global.

 

Now Hoof says he's going to have a think about it. Which insinuates this will be his first serious consideration of this idea. Which means to me that nothing has been done with the decaying corpse of the seasons since they were scrapped with undue haste last year. Or was it the year before? I'm losing track. 

 

That to me is not awesome news. To me that is a sign that nothing has yet been done to develop the seasons model into a global, something that I at least thought had already been looked at and possibly at least partially developed by the HCS team already.

 

As I said, maybe I'm reading too much into this.


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#13 Pardoux

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Posted 01 July 2016 - 06:42

You're right Belaric - your recollection is the same as mine.

 

I'm starting to think that the cow speak "we'll look at it" or "we'll give it some serious thought" are aliases for "shut up and go away" ...

 

So many instances over the years of "we'll look at it" that have never materialised into anything  ...


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Posted 01 July 2016 - 14:54

This quote actually depresses me.

 

I thought some thought had already been put into using the seasons template for a PvP global before now. Maybe I'm over-analysing this, but I could swear we have been told before on the forum that the seasons were being looked at with a view to making them into a global. Months ago. Maybe I'm just remembering lots of player chat and no Dev input, but I could swear, without doing a forum search, that a dev or two, possibly including Hoof, had indicated that the seasons model would be looked at with a view to converting it to a global.

 

Now Hoof says he's going to have a think about it. Which insinuates this will be his first serious consideration of this idea. Which means to me that nothing has been done with the decaying corpse of the seasons since they were scrapped with undue haste last year. Or was it the year before? I'm losing track. 

 

That to me is not awesome news. To me that is a sign that nothing has yet been done to develop the seasons model into a global, something that I at least thought had already been looked at and possibly at least partially developed by the HCS team already.

 

As I said, maybe I'm reading too much into this.

We should look forward, not back. I hope Hoof's newly reinvigorated development plans will result in genuine improvements to the game. Do donations drive development or is it like I think, the other way around? Time will tell.


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Posted 01 July 2016 - 21:40

i also have to agree that is sounds bad to me..i was fully expecting to see the "PVP SEASONS"  in a global event quite soon..as i also thought this was already in the making as it has been mentioned many times by cows in these forums...to see it has not even been thought of yet..seems quite depressing..most anything needing coding takes many months to get implemented..so not looking good for seasons event any time this year or next..hopefully i see something different in the coming weeks , not months..,..lots of aspects of the game are needing improvements ( not prizes) ..that takes coding..that takes lots and lots of time...



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Posted 01 July 2016 - 21:44

Now Hoof says he's going to have a think about it. Which insinuates this will be his first serious consideration of this idea. Which means to me that nothing has been done with the decaying corpse of the seasons since they were scrapped with undue haste last year. Or was it the year before? I'm losing track.

 

It'll take a bit of work to make them work as a new feature, but I just want to be sure that we get it right with the input from the community. PvP has always been quite a contentious topic so I'd like to hear peoples thoughts on how they'd like to see it work as a global event.



#17 sweetlou

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Posted 01 July 2016 - 23:17

It'll take a bit of work to make them work as a new feature, but I just want to be sure that we get it right with the input from the community. PvP has always been quite a contentious topic so I'd like to hear peoples thoughts on how they'd like to see it work as a global event.

Contentious is what has made the game, you can't deny that contention. Just don't kill the basics nor make them cost prohibitive.


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#18 Belaric

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Posted 01 July 2016 - 23:54

I think a 5 day season would work as a global. Including a season based auto BB etc. Go the whole hog and let it play out. Have community goals for total hits made, and individual hit goals set also. Go for it. Have a hit leader board for extra rewards.

 

If folk don't like the idea of the auto BB, just drop it, I'm not wildly fussed. It might be fun though.

 

But all the coding is there, so I'd hope it could be activated without too much extra work. A PvP global is long overdue, I think that side of the game needs it.  The global may help more people get into that aspect of the game too. Maybe not me - but who knows? More activity is good at this stage. 

 

In the end I think it would be good for the game to have a 5 day season global, or make it 7 day if that allows the mechanics to play out better. Also allow ticks toward the season medals to be achieved, that will also draw in players.

 

Ultimately every player will decide whether or not to participate, as is the case for all globals. Medal ticks, extra rewards for placing on the leader board/ in the various tiers, if they were retained, would be cool. If the seasons BB is not used for the duration of the event the question would be would global hits be bountyable on the regular BB? I would say no, as possibly getting dropped 5 for participating in a community event seems counter to the idea of fostering community participation. But if folk argue for it strenuously we can let it play out and see how it affects player participation. That will be the true reflection of the global's success, and the rules could be tweaked going forward based on the experience.

 

Just don't take forever over it folks!


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Posted 04 July 2016 - 17:12

I remember the poll on seasons, it was keeps this one or revert back.

 

Strange as it might be to believe, I voted to keep it because I saw promise in it. 

 

Not something I would take part in but promise none the less.

 

I think a few more adjustments with a little more player input and the player base MIGHT have liked it.



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Posted 04 July 2016 - 17:23

as much as I would to see an addition to increase PvP activity, IMO it would be better to 1st take care of the OP skills, especially composing since they have greatly (negatively) affected PvP (PvP Ladder, BB, ....) & GvG !!!

 

 

It'll take a bit of work to make them work as a new feature, but I just want to be sure that we get it right with the input from the community. PvP has always been quite a contentious topic so I'd like to hear peoples thoughts on how they'd like to see it work as a global event.

totally agree with you, "communication is key" & thanks for allowing the communtiy to voice their opinion, greatly appreciate it :D


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