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[Skallagrime]

since the conversation has digressed to the point that you simply seem to know everything, lets move over here and continue our "friendly discussion" wherein you will completely school me on everything from warriors rotational builds, mages best wisdom + exp ratios and Miners mining/smelting and leveling :roll:


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? did you even read my suggestions?

outta curiosity please tell me a. how much ap went into hunting layks as you suggested to aquire fatesgaze his massive 115 levels? also what was the wisdom increase? While we're on the subject why would you have a "low level" character hunting skull reavers period?

theres one school of thought that perhaps says "hunt things that give low exp and have high res/HP" and thats nice, you blow a few thousand ap, gain virtually no levels and a lot of wisdom

...or you could hunt things that give the same wisdom (i.e. just about anything) and higher exp

option a: 100 levels, 100 wisdom for 5000 ap - 30 minutes
option b: 400 levels, 100 wisdom for 5000 ap - 4 Hours (remember ,limited spawn)
option c: 300 levels, 100 wisdom for 5000 ap - 1 Hour

now which makes most sense?

once again you suggested that he hunt B (Layks) and after a little bit, switch to A (Skull Reavers)

yes its nice that you included a suggestion to increase any amount of + wisdom he could gain, however you fail to mention any hard proof, on the other hand, Prior even to making a specific suggestion about what to do, I personally went out and did my own personal little study on How to level a mage that was his same level, AND posted my results

now you have the audacity to both challenge my advice using unfounded numbers which at least to my mind's eye have produced no results beyond that which could be easily had even hunting Lasciel's suggestion (Leaf boggles , i doubt i'd run Night reapers personally on that level) on BASE ap since the time of posting, most likely net gain would even have been larger had they continued to play, which it seems they have not or maybe they're just hunting skull reavers *scoffs*


anyway, you name your proteges and i'll just let mine post their own support, oh, wait a couple of them have already and mostly they seem to be double your level

[Mysticalme]

Sorry Skalla, but I gotta laugh. You KNOW better than doing a battle of wits with an unarmed person

[Subetei]

you got this

(increase 289 levels = 34 levs per usp/1000 ap)
(increase of 55 wisdom = +7 wisdom per usp/1000 ap)

my mage got this off layks that was the exact same level and wis as his character

high 30s lvls per usp
11-13 wis per USP

the diff was probably doublers which you can't use in that quest realm. my mage used not one mana potion the whole time. yeah i have no idea why he didn't do what you said. :roll:

"take a few billion mana potions" how much did this cost?

you can't use doublers in that quest realm you were wrong. live with it.

if you want my elf warrior can fight all 19 of your little well rounded midgets at once.

[numenor]

My hat's off to skalla, he's helped me power level a bunch of characters. I always trust his wisdom. He was the man when I first started years ago and still is. My friend i'll have a pint of some nice Spaten for you tonight! Cheers.

[Subetei]

my mage at that level had around 10000 mana points... low no doubt but it takes quite a bit to fill that up if she's on a molten mana. how much did all those mana potions cost? and don't make up stories like that 5000 lvl warrior that has all those stats on whatever vial...what was it? 8500 atk 10000AC more than 5000dmg? let us see this awesome warrior!

"i could take on the creatures easily at my "low" level, and most of my level 5000 warriors can too"

DEF - 8300-8500
DMG - 8000-10,000
AC - 3400-4000
HP 200000- 210000

i'm skeptical

these were the base stats neccesary right?
Molten Moonlight Vial -
ATK - 2,657 essential
AC - 2,645 essential
DMG - 3,698 ?
assuming 1000 base ap and hp, (1000 levels)

anyway i thought it was pretty comedic how you made up creatures your characters could take on 'easily'... no joke huh? you are either making it up or suggesting creatures your characters can take on easily which is it?

[Subetei]

skella dont pick on noobs. *smacks you on the nose*

its not fair you knwo way more about the game than he possibly could. (well i dunno he does have that few months play time :? :shock: :roll: )

i never said i knew more than he did. i said sometimes he is wrong. i also never claimed to be an expert and do not give a rats ass about proteges... if mr Skalla exhibited this behavior among real mathmaticians, scholars, or scientists he'd be laughed out of the room.

powerleveling newbs and calling them proteges? skalla should really quit now. this is funny. i was partly wrong about the pp exchanges at least i can admit it. i was the one that pointed it out even... this is silly.

[Mysticalme]

skella dont pick on noobs. *smacks you on the nose*

its not fair you knwo way more about the game than he possibly could. (well i dunno he does have that few months play time :? :shock: :roll: )

i never said i knew more than he did. i said sometimes he is wrong. i also never claimed to be an expert and do not give a rats ass about proteges... if mr Skalla exhibited this behavior among real mathmaticians, scholars, or scientists he'd be laughed out of the room.

powerleveling newbs and calling them proteges? skalla should really quit now. this is funny. i was partly wrong about the pp exchanges at least i can admit it. i was the one that pointed it out even... this is silly.

And you know Skalla would be laughed out of a room of educated people how?


*beats head against brick wall ... better masochistic behavior*

[Subetei]

And you know Skalla would be laughed out of a room of educated people how?


*beats head against brick wall ... better masochistic behavior*

for starters asking who my proteges are.... as if that mattered or made any of his arguments more or less convinving because he has proteges. calling out anyone that challenge some things they said for a show of knowledge... that would be another. no one does that. could you imagine? i am somewhat embarrassed that i even took this kind of seriously. GmbH nerfed my creature one time. he should get over it.

[Subetei]

Glass jaw, much? :|

i usually don't read anything you say but what the heck this is fun. you haven't even seen my character. you also don't know how much i spent.... so you cannot come to any accurate conclusions about it. did i not say that i would take 150000 points of damage before i had to heal up? i can kill them easily... so every thing you just said there is a complete joke as usual

sorry you wasted your time typing all that crap.

[Subetei]

i will refrain from a pointless auto biographical statement here... it would be quite boring probably. :roll:

ach! my name is anfang i am a whino on crack that enjoys kicking puppies. when i need money i will smack old ladies around and steal their social sercurity checks to pay for my character. the old bags have coughed up 8000$ so far. i enjoy this tremendously.. anyone got a problem with that?

[Mysticalme]

And you know Skalla would be laughed out of a room of educated people how?


*beats head against brick wall ... better masochistic behavior*

for starters asking who my proteges are.... as if that mattered or made any of his arguments more or less convinving because he has proteges. calling out anyone that challenge some things they said for a show of knowledge... that would be another. no one does that. could you imagine? i am somewhat embarrassed that i even took this kind of seriously. GmbH nerfed my creature one time. he should get over it.

More or less convinving? *scratches head* Calling out someone who challenges him? ROFL You don't even know. Skalla and I have had some very long and very in depth conversations about everything from this game to cooking. We hit these topics from different areas, discuss and come to agreements. Sometimes we agree to disagree, but he is intelligent and has actually helped me in this game and helped me look at things from a different angle. (No I'm not admitting that out loud am I? >.>) Again I'm scratching my head here, what the hell does G have to do with this?

*looks at wall and giggles, it lost again*

[Mysticalme]

Glass jaw, much? :|

i usually don't read anything you say but what the heck this is fun. you haven't even seen my character. you also don't know how much i spent.... so you cannot come to any accurate conclusions about it. did i not say that i would take 150000 points of damage before i had to heal up? i can kill them easily... so every thing you just said there is a complete joke as usual

sorry you wasted your time typing all that crap.

At your level in order to have that many HP, you must be on a large vial and/or invested a very large amount of levelups into HP in which case you would have a glass jaw because you couldn't have put many into AC in order to be able to repel damage and still have enough DMG in order to kill anything in order to level.

Nyt make me stop its gonna scramble my brain. *Grabs Nyt and runs for the raspberry white chocolate swirl cheesecake*

[Subetei]

um.... what exactly is the point of this? this was supposed to be impressive no?

"anyway, you name your proteges and i'll just let mine post their own support, oh, wait a couple of them have already and mostly they seem to be double your level"

[Subetei]

At your level in order to have that many HP, you must be on a large vial and/or invested a very large amount of levelups into HP in which case you would have a glass jaw because you couldn't have put many into AC in order to be able to repel damage and still have enough DMG in order to kill anything in order to level.

molten moonlight. aren't nidhogors awesome?

also by what you said there Metalhead has a glass jaw then too. so whatever. most ACs of big characters are around 5000... mine is around 3500. i put that 1500 in hp and dmg instead. i fail to see how that makes my jaw any more glass like that any one else. some characters have like 9-12k AC and maybe 5000 hp... what are they? all the AC in the world won't help you kill a mage. oh yeah you just reminded me a mage just said i have a glass jaw... that's curious!

[Mysticalme]

At your level in order to have that many HP, you must be on a large vial and/or invested a very large amount of levelups into HP in which case you would have a glass jaw because you couldn't have put many into AC in order to be able to repel damage and still have enough DMG in order to kill anything in order to level.

molten moonlight. aren't nidhogors awesome?

also by what you said there Metalhead has a glass jaw then too. so whatever. most ACs of big characters are around 5000... mine is around 3500. i put that 1500 in hp and dmg instead. i fail to see how that makes my jaw any more glass like that any one else. some characters have like 9-12k AC and maybe 5000 hp... what are they? all the AC in the world won't help you kill a mage.

Strong enough to stand there and swing as others might, they can't be hit for 150,000 unless its a death blow or some such. *Backs away from the keyboard* This is Skalla's 'discussion' Not mine. I'll sit back and watch.

[Subetei]

[color=#8000FF]Strong enough to stand there and swing as others might, they can't be hit for 150,000 unless its a death blow or some such. *Backs away from the keyboard* This is Skalla's 'discussion' Not mine. I'll sit back and watch.

and a wimpy mage will flatten them like a pancake.