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[Tartarus1]

It been +10 years since I last played this game and yet the token shop (which the tokens in my opinion is much rarer since you can only get it by loging in daily for 5 tokens and buy FSP to get bunch of them) didn't receive any form of update.

 

I remember seeing the keys (which is now total garbage and waste of space) being added to the game when chest was added for the 1st time to the game.

 

Out of ALL the tokens item we have UB/LF/DB/GE DB are the only thing people goes for.

 

 

The token shop needs a major over-haul and add potions exclusive to the shop which cannot be bought/made/earned (a.k.a Sales Shop/GE/Invent/Composing).

 

I have 21k tokens and there's nothing to buy.

 

Can any1 help convince the cows to restructure the token shop by coming up with suggestion ?

 

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Legend :

 

Potion Name

Skill | Level | Duration

 

Beginners Loyalty Token

*Items in this page can only be bought by players under level 50 & it's bound to the player.

 

Explorers Potion

Adept Learner | 200 | 120m

Librarian | 200 | 120m

Animal Magnetism | 200 | 120m

Conserve | 200 | 120m

Light Foot | 200 | 120m

Doubler | 400 | 120m

 

Warriors Elixir

Fury | 200 | 120m

Berserk | 200 | 120m

Dark Curse | 200 | 120m

Enchanted Weapon | 200 | 120m

Wither | 200 | 120m

Shatter Armor | 200 | 120m

 

Potion of Supreme Luck

Find Item | 400 | 120m

Quest Finder | 400 | 120m

Quest Hunter | 400 | 120m

 

Dimensional Storage Potion

Pocket Void | 50 | 21600m (~15 days)

 

Pocket Void : For every level player gains an additional item slot.

[NOTE : This potion can only be bought once. After timer expires if players has more items then what he originally had, players will still retain the items in backpack but will not gain any new items until they free-up more space]

 

Loyalty Token

*Items in this page (and onward) can be bought by all players. Items in this page are a bit higher level and pricier then the original cost. Items in this page are bound.

 

Auspice of Ancient

Conserve | 450 | 120m

 

Scholar Draft

Adept Learner | 400 | 120m

Librarian |  400 | 120m

 

Potion of Intensity

Doubler | 1500 | 120m

 

Everlasting Potion

Unbreakable | 200 | 300m

 

Fleeting Potion

Light Foot | 1250 | 120m

 

Limit Breaker Potion

Coordinated Attack | 400 | 90m

Coordinated Defence | 400 | 90m

Keen Edge | 400 | 90m

Smashing Hammer | 500 | 90m

 

Guardian Defender Potion

Shield Wall | 400 | 90m

Sanctuary | 400 | 90m

Armor Boost | 400 | 90m

Constitution | 400 | 90m

 

Potion of Full-Body Enchant

Enchant Weapon | 2000 | 120m

Enchanted Armor | 500 | 120m

Enchant Shield | 500 | 120m

Enchant Ring | 500 | 120m

Enchant Amulet  | 500 | 120m

Enchant Boot | 500 | 120m

Enchant Helmet | 500 | 120m

Enchant Rune | 500 | 120m

Iron Fist | 500 | 120m

 

Exclusive Loyalty Token

All these potion are categorized as "Ancient" class (1 level higher then epic) potions. "Distil" does not work on "Ancient" class potions.

 

Potion of the Divine Hunter (6800 Tokens)

Doubler | 5000 | 200m |

 

Hunting Lord Potion (4000 Tokens)

Doubler | 3000 | 200m |

 

Potion of Divine Knowledge (3000 Tokens)

Adept Learner | 1000 | 200m

Librarian | 900 | 200m

 

Rampage Potion (3000 Tokens)

Animal Magnetism | 500 | 200m

Conserve | 1000 | 200m

 

Alchemist Prized Potion (3500 Tokens)

Distil | 250 | 200m

Brewing Master | 500 | 200

[NOTE : BM will not increase Dis duration nor Dis increase BM level upon usage]

 

Potion of Beastairy Knowledge  (3500 Tokens/Token Potion Exclusive)

Creature Hunter | 250 | 200m

 

Creature Hunter : 0.1% per point to Damage. For every 1000 creature level Damage increase by 2.5%.

[NOTE : I know it's not the best but wanted to give a unique potion for Loyalty Token similar to how "Pride" is to composers.]

 

 

Keys & Material Loyalty Token

*Keys in this page remains the same (have no idea how to make it better so sorry). 

*Potion Material can be bought here at bulk quantity (might come in useful later on as the devs are planning on reworking the old invent potion in the near future).

 

 

Global Loyalty Token

*Global Booster potion remains the same (no changes require here as well).

Edited by Tartarus1, 24 January 2020 - 16:05.

[yotekiller]

 

I remember seeing the keys (which is now total garbage and waste of space) being added to the game when chest was added for the 1st time to the game.

 

  I'm curious how you would open a chest without the keys?  They are definitely overpriced but they are used to open the realm chests.

[activeh1]

yes it needs an overhaul ,but the keys need to stay ,update the potions to make them worth while

[Tartarus1]

  I'm curious how you would open a chest without the keys?  They are definitely overpriced but they are used to open the realm chests.

Those are my speculation as I haven't played the game in +10 years.

[Tartarus1]

I bring up this topic cause Tokens are much rarer currency then FSP so the loyalty shop needs to have items that reflects the rarity of the tokens.

[yotekiller]

Those are my speculation as I haven't played the game in +10 years.

So you haven't played in 10+ years and you're an expert on how things should run? Sorry,I think you should have more recent experience before trying to overhaul the game.

[Tartarus1]

So you haven't played in 10+ years and you're an expert on how things should run? Sorry,I think you should have more recent experience before trying to overhaul the game.

First, where did I say I was an expert on how thing should run ? please point it out on my thread.

 

Second, Before I left this game the token shop was EXACTLY the same after I returned to this game. So ya I'm kinda disappointing of the cows not updating the token page for +10 years.

 

Third, isn't suggesting new idea in forum the WHOLE POINT of improving a game ? Or are people not allowed to do that ?

[gapukas]

Yes, the buffs there are pretty much pointless, the keys are meh..

Atleast throw in some crafting mats or smt.

Edited by gapukas, 04 August 2019 - 09:29.

[LLAP]

Agreed.

 

Courageous Draft: Too low levels.

Why is conserve missing?

 

Adventurer Elixer: Too low levels

Why is rage missing? EW way too low as EW 1000 is stupidly under priced in the AH.

 

Auspice of Ancients: Too easy to get better via anywhere else

Scholars Draft: Too easy to get better via anywhere else

Sacrifice potion: Too easy to get better via potions.

 

Potion of intensity: Great potions, I use it plenty but would love to see a doubler of higher level (2,000) for extra tokens ofcourse.

 

Everlasting Potion: Don't use, i prefer resilience but can see why you would buy esp with the extra duration and cannot be SB. I think over priced. or maybe the above doubler is underpriced?

 

Fleeting potion: over priced but I buy this one, too.

 

ALL Keys: Overpriced big time!

 

Problem is the game almost has everything every one has asked for buff wise in potion form or otherwise, through Epic, SE, composing or creating. And if not, they are available as a buff.

As a pretty old game, it is not too much of a surprise either. 

Edited by Spaz2, 04 August 2019 - 17:26.

[BadPenny]

THe ideas expressed good, good bad or mediocre, should really go here, in the official Hoof thread about it:

 

https://forums.huntedcow.com/index.php?s=a11ab4c3c635b1e3f6f7b3b873e7c8bb&showtopic=53647

[LLAP]

THe ideas expressed good, good bad or mediocre, should really go here, in the official Hoof thread about it:

 

https://forums.huntedcow.com/index.php?s=a11ab4c3c635b1e3f6f7b3b873e7c8bb&showtopic=53647

I've dropped an idea in there and brought the thrread back to life lol

[Tartarus1]

So I been thinking for a while but here are some rework page would look like and what kind of pots would be there (still working in progress). Note that i will not put any pricing on my suggestion but you guys can debate :

 

Legend :

 

Potion Name

Skill | Level | Duration

 

Beginners Loyalty Token

*Items in this page can only be bought by players under level 50 & it's bound to the player.

 

Explorers Potion

Adept Learner | 200 | 120m

Librarian | 200 | 120m

Animal Magnetism | 200 | 120m

Conserve | 200 | 120m

Light Foot | 200 | 120m

Doubler | 400 | 120m

 

Warriors Elixir

Fury | 200 | 120m

Berserk | 200 | 120m

Dark Curse | 200 | 120m

Enchanted Weapon | 200 | 120m

Wither | 200 | 120m

Shatter Armor | 200 | 120m

 

Potion of Supreme Luck

Find Item | 400 | 120m

Quest Finder | 400 | 120m

Quest Hunter | 400 | 120m

 

Loyalty Token

*Items in this page (and onward) can be bought by all players. Items in this page are a bit higher level and pricier then the original cost. Items in this page are bound.

 

Auspice of Ancient

Conserve | 450 | 120m

 

Scholar Draft

Adept Learner | 400 | 120m

Librarian |  400 | 120m

 

Potion of Intensity

Doubler | 1500 | 120m

 

Everlasting Potion

Unbreakable | 200 | 300m

 

Fleeting Potion

Light Foot | 1250 | 120m

 

Limit Breaker Potion

Coordinated Attack | 400 | 90m

Coordinated Defence | 400 | 90m

Keen Edge | 400 | 90m

Smashing Hammer | 500 | 90m

 

Guardian Defender Potion

Shield Wall | 400 | 90m

Sanctuary | 400 | 90m

Armor Boost | 400 | 90m

Constitution | 400 | 90m

 

 

Keys & Material Loyalty Token

*Keys in this page remains the same (have no idea how to make it better so sorry). 

*Potion Material can be bought here at bulk quantity (might come in useful later on as the devs are planning on reworking the old invent potion in the near future).

 

 

Global Loyalty Token

*Global Booster potion remains the same (no changes require here as well).

 

 

What do you guys think of this working-in-progress suggestion ?

Edited by Tartarus1, 07 August 2019 - 23:34.

[BadPenny]

I can tell you've put a lot of thought into this, and I think it could be workable with minimal coding as well.... meaning BG could probably get them loaded up pretty quickly... so BG, nudge the Hoofster already.

Edited by BadPenny, 06 August 2019 - 01:50.

[Tartarus1]

I can tell you've put a lot of thought into this, and I think it could be workable with minimal coding as well.... meaning BG could probably get them loaded up pretty quickly... so BG, nudge the Hoofster already.

You can see there are some potion hasn't changed at all like the unbreakable potion and light foot potion (those 2 don't think they need any changes since alot of ppl use them).

 

I made these potion based on :

1- Rarity of Tokens

2- Composing Level (almost all of these pots are higher level then what you can get from composing)

3- Pricing of these potion pot reflect on the rarity of the token (As mentioned on my 1st post and under each category with the "*")

[gapukas]

i like it, gives small guilds some better buffs without having a need for a high composer. Id tottaly buy pots from that store, not from current one for sure.

[Tartarus1]

i like it, gives small guilds some better buffs without having a need for a high composer. Id tottaly buy pots from that store, not from current one for sure.

There were varies reason for making buff levels this much :

 

1- Beginners page, I made it to those level so that they can buy the pots cheaply (like the 1k gold pots) to give new players a taste of what it's like to have a high level pots feels. Made it bound so that one they exit level 50 they can no longer buy them as well as avoid selling them to other players if they planned on buying them in bulks.

 

2- The other 3 pages, I made those 3 pages unbound as I wanted people to be able to sell those to other people who are unable to buy FSP to get the token with it. Once people had a taste of these high level pot that are way stronger then the composing potion, it'll entice people to spend money into the game them selves, buy the pots they want and they can can either either sell it to other people (and repeat the process) or use it them selves.

 

3- This suggestion is a sample of what it will initially look like, if the cows likes it I hope they can like update the page with a new exclusive pots ever 6 month or once a year to not burden them with coming up with new pot ideas.

[BadPenny]

Just my opinion here, but ALL loyalty potions should be bound to avoid any chance of exploitation.  Tokens are relatively easy to come by these days with the advent of the DQ, and we still get our 5 per day as well.  Items that require a large number of tokens such as keys and GB's can also be bought with gold.  

 

That said, I do like the BJ's proposal to expand the section for newbies.  

[Tartarus1]

ok penny i changed to bound for the normal loyalty page.

[Tartarus1]

Exclusive Loyalty Token

All these potion are categorized as "Ancient" class (1 level higher then epic) potions.

 

Potion of the Divine Hunter (6800 Tokens)

Doubler | 5000 | 200m |

 

Hunting Lord Potion (4000 Tokens)

Doubler | 3000 | 200m |

 

Potion of Divine Knowledge (3000 Tokens)

Adept Learner | 1000 | 200m

Librarian | 900 | 200m

 

Rampage Potion (3000 Tokens)

Animal Magnetism | 500 | 200m

Conserve | 1000 | 200m

 

Alchemist Prized Potion (3500 Tokens)

Distil | 250 | 200m

Brewing Master | 500 | 200

[NOTE : BM will not increase Dis duration nor Dis increase BM level upon usage]

 

Potion of Beastairy Knowledge  (3500 Tokens/Token Potion Exclusive)

Creature Hunter | 250 | 200m

 

Creature Hunter : 0.1% per point to Damage. For every 1000 creature level Damage increase by 2.5%.

[NOTE : I know it's not the best but wanted to give a unique potion for Loyalty Token similar to how "Pride" is to composers.]

 

Here are some new ideas (very expensive) potions. What you all think ?

Edited by Tartarus1, 24 January 2020 - 15:38.

[Tartarus1]

Beginners Loyalty Token

 

Dimensional Storage Potion

Pocket Void | 50 | 21600m (~15 days)

 

Pocket Void : For every level player gains an additional item slot.

[NOTE : This potion can only be bought once. After timer expires if players has more items then what he originally had, players will still retain the items in backpack but will not gain any new items until they free-up more space]