I miss the old days of the arena... frantically checking for new tournaments every 15 minutes and hoping to join in time to win that awesome prize... or that 1 mil gold that would go directly into your bank... used to be so much fun... i was beyond addicted!!! but now im lucky if i join 12 tournaments in a week... tournies take forever to fill... nobody seems to care anymore and there is basically no profit to be made (which no matter what people will tell u always played a factor in things)... and the tokens have become useless because all the items that can be bought with them are now SUPER CHEAP... except to exchange for gold which is boring and isnt the same as winning a gold tournament and having it go right to your bank (for of us that only have 1 deposit a day)... im not really sure what can be done to fix any or all of the issues with the arena but its sad to see what it has come to....
Old Arena System ( 2008 Style ) + Suggestions
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Posted 04 March 2015 - 22:51
The principle idea of the arena tokens was good, as proposed by shindrak way back when. But something went wrong in the implementation. Also, I believe the gold tournaments were proposed to stay though.
Exactly.. my idea proposed to be additional little reward of tokens only for semi or final losers but instead the change was huge from HC's...
Edited by shindrak, 04 March 2015 - 22:52.
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Posted 04 March 2015 - 23:11
Arena tokens are pretty dumb. It's made attending arenas hardly profitable at all. The first 2nd and 3rd place system further decreases the profitability of the new arena system. What I propose is bring back the old arena system and make it so only 1st and 2nd place gets prizes.
In general it's been getting harder and harder to make money in game. LE items are hardly worth hunting for anymore and all the epic prices have plummeted. There's not much to do in the game anymore in general to be honest. I'm only here for friends and stealing other people's gold 
#24
Posted 05 March 2015 - 04:50
Don't know why HCS decided to go with Tokens Rewards all the way, but you guys need to accept that the attempt ruined the Arena, now it's time to move on and try again.
I know you all are thinking "but we can't erase tokens for those who already have them", and I agree, but you can't leave Arena that terrible and do nothing about it.
My idea about how to fix the Arena trying to save both sides (dislikers and those sitting up on a lot of tokens).
Change Arena to the old way, but giving 3 kinds of prizes:
1 - Gold
2 - Items/Resources/Potions/etc
3 - Arena Tokens
Rewards players with tokens for final losses (8 players) and Final and semi final losses (16 players).
The Tokens Shop:
- Keep the option to exchange 1 Token for 4.000 Gold.
- I really would like to see a way to obtain the same (or almost the same) potions of Composing, but using Arena Tokens, for sure they will cost a lot, but players who hate Composing can grab their own big pots and not stay behind (bound for sure).
- Keep the Special Potions, EW1000, WIT350, BER300 and things like that.
Give 1 week notice so players can spend their tokens stocking up whatever they want and there it is, a new and good to play Arena.
#25
Posted 05 March 2015 - 09:03
Change Arena to the old way, but giving 3 kinds of prizes:
1 - Gold
2 - Items/Resources/Potions/etc
3 - Arena Tokens
3 - the tokens could be used for upgrading the character?
so, say, for instance:
- 500 tokens for +10 max stam
- 100 tokens for +25 XP gain per hour
- 100 tokens for +10 gold gain per hour
- 200 tokens for +1 stamina gain per hour
- 200 tokens for +1 Max Allies
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That could get the community moving! 
-and it would get new players involved in it early on in the game!
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#26
Posted 05 March 2015 - 11:30
Change Arena to the old way, but giving 3 kinds of prizes:
1 - Gold
2 - Items/Resources/Potions/etc
3 - Arena Tokens
This is exactly what I meant with combining the two system 
#27
Posted 05 March 2015 - 12:04
This is exactly what I meant with combining the two system
I agree.
New potions, gear, resources, etc - mixed in with gold prizes to the winner, and tokens to the runner up. I think this is the track the arena needs to go on.
New gear suggestions...I'm sure HCS will get plenty from folks way smarter than me. But, I'd like to see a variety of 2-3 item sets, with a stat other than damage. Damage is nice, but there's so much of it already.
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#28
Posted 05 March 2015 - 15:26
The principle idea of the arena tokens was good, as proposed by shindrak way back when. But something went wrong in the implementation. Also, I believe the gold tournaments were proposed to stay though.
yep...tokens were to be consolation prizes if you did not win the arena for the prize or gold..then save many many of them to buy a prize..something happened..and now seems we are stuck with it..seems the cows are not listening to us players on this one..vote seems pretty one-sided..so why the denial ? yes we are still technecially playing for gold..but it sure does not feel like it..no fun anymore in arena..playing for random prizes was fun...like someone else said...you would be waiting on edge for that great prize in your level range to pop up...they would fill fast...yes it died off and why we have tokens...but it sure seemed a lot more fun...please bring back something different for arena...what we have now does not cut it..
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#29
Posted 05 March 2015 - 22:45
3 - the tokens could be used for upgrading the character?
so, say, for instance:
- 500 tokens for +10 max stam
- 100 tokens for +25 XP gain per hour
- 100 tokens for +10 gold gain per hour
- 200 tokens for +1 stamina gain per hour
- 200 tokens for +1 Max Allies
...
That could get the community moving!
-and it would get new players involved in it early on in the game!
I like it !
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Posted 05 March 2015 - 23:55
3 - the tokens could be used for upgrading the character?
so, say, for instance:
- 500 tokens for +10 max stam
- 100 tokens for +25 XP gain per hour
- 100 tokens for +10 gold gain per hour
- 200 tokens for +1 stamina gain per hour
- 200 tokens for +1 Max Allies
...
That could get the community moving!
-and it would get new players involved in it early on in the game!
This has the Pennah seal of approval
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#31
Posted 06 March 2015 - 00:10
- 500 tokens for +10 max stam
- 100 tokens for +25 XP gain per hour
- 100 tokens for +10 gold gain per hour
- 200 tokens for +1 stamina gain per hour
- 200 tokens for +1 Max Allies
Max Stam / XP Gain per Hour / Gold Gain per Hour and Max Allies ? - Sure, why not ..
Stam Gain per hour ? - NO
Heck, even I, with my paltry amount of tokens, could add 18 to my stam gain ... those sitting on 10's of thousands could add MASSIVE amounts of regen ..
Stamina Regen upgrades are meant to be expensive / hard to achieve ...
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#32
Posted 06 March 2015 - 00:11
3 - the tokens could be used for upgrading the character?
so, say, for instance:
- 500 tokens for +10 max stam
- 100 tokens for +25 XP gain per hour
- 100 tokens for +10 gold gain per hour
- 200 tokens for +1 stamina gain per hour
- 200 tokens for +1 Max Allies
...
this will definitely attract more players, but i feel like the amount of tokens in your exemple for the upgrades are too low imo. 100 tokens are very easy to get. But the idea is nice
Edited by WYB, 06 March 2015 - 00:11.
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Posted 06 March 2015 - 07:11
3 - the tokens could be used for upgrading the character?
so, say, for instance:
- 500 tokens for +10 max stam
- 100 tokens for +25 XP gain per hour
- 100 tokens for +10 gold gain per hour
- 200 tokens for +1 stamina gain per hour
- 200 tokens for +1 Max Allies
...
That could get the community moving!
-and it would get new players involved in it early on in the game!
I stink at arena but had to comment on this... The rates you suggest kinda work out like this based on a big assumption I am making...
Assumption: if you were to manipulate the system and bought every slot in a tournament and had various people join where you paid the entry fee for all (and had them all send you the tokens won).
The cost do this exploit would be 10k gold per token.
Assuming 200k/fsp
500 tokens = 25 fsp
100 tokens = 5 fsp
200 tokens = 10 fsp
5 fsp for XP gain and 10 fsp for stam gain?
#35
Posted 06 March 2015 - 07:34
I stink at arena but had to comment on this... The rates you suggest kinda work out like this based on a big assumption I am making...
Assumption: if you were to manipulate the system and bought every slot in a tournament and had various people join where you paid the entry fee for all (and had them all send you the tokens won).
The cost do this exploit would be 10k gold per token.
Assuming 200k/fsp
500 tokens = 25 fsp
100 tokens = 5 fsp
200 tokens = 10 fsp
5 fsp for XP gain and 10 fsp for stam gain?
The prices are not very accurate yet, need work on for sure, but we are talking about the idea as a concept.
If the idea gets an approval we can start to think about prices.
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#36
Posted 06 March 2015 - 15:18
3 - the tokens could be used for upgrading the character?
so, say, for instance:
- 500 tokens for +10 max stam
- 100 tokens for +25 XP gain per hour
- 100 tokens for +10 gold gain per hour
- 200 tokens for +1 stamina gain per hour
- 200 tokens for +1 Max Allies
...
That could get the community moving!
-and it would get new players involved in it early on in the game!
yes yes yes..i have said many times..make it somehow that upgrades and/or little bits of reserve stamina could be won in arena..and it would get the community back playing..this is what is needed...besides more tourneys since we now have only 60 tourneys for 2700 levels..slim pickings..
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#37
Posted 08 March 2015 - 12:31
3 - the tokens could be used for upgrading the character?
so, say, for instance:
- 500 tokens for +10 max stam
- 100 tokens for +25 XP gain per hour
- 100 tokens for +10 gold gain per hour
- 200 tokens for +1 stamina gain per hour- 200 tokens for +1 Max Allies
other players wanting get tokens for uprading the character on ladder but admin saying no
if admin changing his mind then can be good for arena and ladder but NO for +1 stamina gain per hour for areana and ladder
and you need increse token needed to buy upgrades because 100 tokens for +25 XP gain per hour is very cheap
if taking 200 tokens for +1 Max Allies is under character upgrading 5 FSP as base
then 100 tokens for +25 XP gain per hour is under character upgrading 15 FSP, I thinking is very cheap, it should be 600 tokens for +25 XP gain per hour
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Posted 11 March 2015 - 14:28
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#39
Posted 11 March 2015 - 22:28
I'd also appreciate it if you could implement more lower level arenas, I used to be semi active just so I could play the arena but now i don't even log on because I know that there will be at most 2 lvl 1-200 arenas available at a time and theres no point in me even logging on.
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Posted 12 March 2015 - 17:54
I'd also appreciate it if you could implement more lower level arenas, I used to be semi active just so I could play the arena but now i don't even log on because I know that there will be at most 2 lvl 1-200 arenas available at a time and theres no point in me even logging on.
i keep trying to get a cow to notice this..months later still nothing..i am same way..used to be very active arena player..now check in 1-2 times a day for crumbs..nothing to join...nothing to do..watch the stam grow
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