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[FireAndMe]

Awesome, been really looking forward to this event. Best of luck to everyone, and especially to HCS's servers!

~F&M

[Egami]

[Skullman307]

Thanks for making the GE impossible again. You tried 75m kills last year, and you wound up having to lower that number to 50m, and we still didn't hit it, so why would you set it at 75m again this year? FS doesn't have the player base for it, and too many people are busy hunting the seasonal titans to pay attention to the global portion of this event. A realistic number to give us a challenge with the seasonal titans out would've been 35m, but I guess you guys don't learn from past mistakes do you?

[Egami]

Thanks for making the GE impossible again.

 

Sorry, have to disagree. It's possible. In fact, it's on now. 

 

EDIT: Dang, so concentrated on trying to keep it short that I forgot:

 

Prosperous smacking everybody! (o0

Edited by Egami, 28 October 2016 - 21:48.

[Egami]

From home page:

 

Game Maintenance

21:49 28 Oct 2016

The game will be going down for maintenance in 10 minutes. We are hoping to fix the issues with lag most players have been experienced.

 

It should not be down for more than an hour.

[bigchaos]

Yes and I was working on the event with my buffs and potions on. I know game was struggling but I hope fs staff will give some reserve stamina to the community for the disruption. 

 

I would like to add thank you for the event and hope we can get all things corrects.   

[Skullman307]

Sorry, have to disagree. It's possible. In fact, it's on now.

No duh. I wasn't implying that the GE wouldn't go up. I'm saying that achieving ruby tier is impossible. As I stated before they set ruby tier at 75m last year, and had to lower it to 50m, which we still didn't unlock.

[cucullainn]

Sorry, have to disagree. It's possible. In fact, it's on now.

EDIT: Dang, so concentrated on trying to keep it short that I forgot:

Prosperous smacking everybody! (o0

I'm sorry I'm going to have to disagree with you. I I'm surprised to see it start as late as it did. And as though I am really happy to see the event start. I logged on 10 minutes before the game went down. And wasn't having any problems. I didn't see the post on the home page until after I got home to the forums. With incidents like this and less than 400 people playing the game I don't see it as being possible to attend that result of Ruby Tier

Edited by cucullainn, 28 October 2016 - 22:16.

[Pardoux]

No duh. I wasn't implying that the GE wouldn't go up. I'm saying that achieving ruby tier is impossible. As I stated before they set ruby tier at 75m last year, and had to lower it to 50m, which we still didn't unlock.

 

and who's fault was that ? - Hmm, yup, it was the players fault....

OK, there's more than 1 thing to spend stamina on at the moment (well, not literally atm, as the game is down) but players have to prioritise. If the chests are wanted, spend all your stamina on the GE, and if the titan items are wanted, concentrate there.

 

In reality, if players are "wise", the kill count required for Ruby is "only" 15 million ...

Edited by Pardoux, 28 October 2016 - 22:33.

[cucullainn]

and who's fault was that ? - Hmm, yup, it was the players fault....

OK, there's more than 1 thing to spend stamina on at the moment (well, not literally atm, as the game is down) but players have to prioritise. If the chests are wanted, spend all your stamina on the GE, and if the titan items are wanted, concentrate there.

In reality, if players are "wise", the kill count required for Ruby is "only" 10 million ...

I really think it's a shame that even though there are more things to spend stamina on than just the event. If there were more players playing the game...

That's if any of us can get back on to play the game. I don't know if there's enough of us to finish Ruby tier at all

[Pardoux]

Then if we don't reach Ruby, we don't - it's hardly the end of the world, is it ? LOL

[Skullman307]

Then if we don't reach Ruby, we don't - it's hardly the end of the world, is it ? LOL

You're right, It's not, but I never said it was. All I'm saying is that HCS needs to give a realistic number to hit for ruby tier because as seen last year, 75m just ain't gonna happen.

[cucullainn]

with only 166 players left online. becuase who knows where they just went. I can see making it

[Filletminion]

Nice to see,  Lag needs fixing still.

 

Regarding Ruby or not, many lower levels not all have not had the time we have to build our characters and grow stam banks So end up using pots far faster than many eoc's do.

 

There needs to be some chance for the community to hit ruby or people just do not try. Having a 5 point critter that drops a component for a potion that is largely obsolete.

 

Best solution is for both critters to drop Zombie Coffins but the Emaciated fellow also drops the tentacle so compromise is retained and maybe a lower drop rate for it.

Edited by zizzwyly, 29 October 2016 - 06:34.

[bloody18]

thanks for the pumpkin pot 

[rowbeth]

I note that after the lag fix, the DQ quest counters have stopped updating without a new page load.

[rowbeth]

I'm sorry I'm going to have to disagree with you. I I'm surprised to see it start as late as it did. And as though I am really happy to see the event start. I logged on 10 minutes before the game went down. And wasn't having any problems. I didn't see the post on the home page until after I got home to the forums. With incidents like this and less than 400 people playing the game I don't see it as being possible to attend that result of Ruby Tier

 

It is typically about 2000 players that participate in the GQs, and that hasn't really changed for a long time. (You can tell that (1) from the number of chests that make it into people's backbacks and (2) from analysing the top 100 kills in comparision to the total number of kills.)

 

My recollection is that this discussion has arisen every year with this GQ, and that last year was the first time we failed to get ruby. And that wan't due to fewer players. It was probably much more due to lower individual limits (which I think had been around 25k for ruby in 2014---something that prompted a lot of complaints in the forum to begin with, but ended with approval as well chosen limits by the end of the GQ).

[rowbeth]

I really think it's a shame that even though there are more things to spend stamina on than just the event.

 

And there are also fewer things to spend stamin on. The last content update was in June/July during the double experience event. There are now 160 players, probably with significant stamina banks, looking for a lot more than DQs to spend their stam on.

 

 

PS thanks for the event, HCS

Edited by rowbeth, 29 October 2016 - 07:46.

[Egami]

Then if we don't reach Ruby, we don't - it's hardly the end of the world, is it ? LOL

 

 

You're right, It's not, but I never said it was. All I'm saying is that HCS needs to give a realistic number to hit for ruby tier because as seen last year, 75m just ain't gonna happen.

 

 

According to this: http://wiki.fallensw...hp/Global_Quest

 

FS topped 75 million based on the estimates. 

 

You're definition of "realistic" is based on what? 

 

Do you think it should be "easy"? 

 

Ruby is the top tier. It's been said time and time again, this is a "community" event. 

 

I don't think getting the best for nothing should be the norm. I'm against upping the min kills. 

 

I've always thought that a real "community" would get together to face a challenge. It's been years since I've seen that.

 

I def agree, if you're right that they reduced the last one to 50 million AND it was because it was "impossible" (which I doubt), that they shouldn't have done that.

 

What I'd really like to do, but would be against HCS rules, is quote every time someone says "it's impossible" and then laugh at them when Gold, Crystal... even Ruby was made. 

 

You want to throw in the towel? That's your prerogative and I see nothing wrong with it. 

 

Personally, I think players saying it's "impossible" is self-defeating... AND it's often been disproved.

 

All you are doing is discouraging the Community to even bother.

 

All that said, I don't think you deciding to do nothing for the community is the "wrong way" to go. 

 

What I would like to see is Community effort. Has that been present in the last couple of years? I don't really think so.

[Skullman307]

According to this: http://wiki.fallensw...hp/Global_Quest

 

FS topped 75 million based on the estimates.

 

Do you think it should be "easy"?

 

I don't think getting the best for nothing should be the norm. I'm against upping the min kills. 

 

I've always thought that a real "community" would get together to face a challenge. It's been years since I've seen that.

 

I def agree, if you're right that they reduced the last one to 50 million AND it was because it was "impossible" (which I doubt), that they shouldn't have done that.

 

All that said, I don't think you deciding to do nothing for the community is the "wrong way" to go. 

 

What I would like to see is Community effort. Has that been present in the last couple of years? I don't really think so.

Try scrolling down the page, and looking for the specific event in question one in a while. It might help. From looking at the chart which YOU provided the link to, we only pulled 41.5m kills last year (which was still pretty good considering all the new seasonal titans that everybody was hunting) which only got us silver tier.

 

No, and I never said it should be, but HCS should've learned from last year that 75m was (and still is) unrealistic.

 

I'm starting to think you weren't around at this time last year because if you were than you would know first hand that they in fact did reduce the number of kills needed to unlock ruby tier from 75m to 50m.

 

Stop trying to pull words out of my mouth. I never said I wasn't going to participate in the GE, and in fact I've already done my hunt. I participate in ALL GE's other than the ones that give out frags because I don't compose.

 

Are you smoking something, or is your memory just that bad? In the last Zombie Yeoman, Shadow Bunny, Darksun Reborn, and Gargantuan Mosquito events we absolutely obliterated the ruby tier goal. We got well over double the amount of kills needed on a couple of them, close to triple on one, and more than triple on another one. Community effort hasn't been present? Yeah okay, you can think that all you want, but you couldn't be more wrong.

Edited by Skullman307, 29 October 2016 - 16:34.