![Photo](https://www.huntedcow.com/upload/avatars/library/fallensword/3_small.jpg?_r=0)
MUGGER'S MEDAL POLL/PVP check Gold Stealing medal thread
#21
Posted 10 January 2013 - 20:29
#22
Posted 10 January 2013 - 20:30
Complainers are always going to complain because they believe they can play a game online with lots of other people, and be left alone to play their way and pick and chose which aspects of the game they want to participate in
If gold stealing is a valid part of Fallen Sword (which it always has been) it should not be overlooked by the medal system which acknowledges Levelling, Gold Hoarding, Questing, Titaning, Laddering, Bounty Hunting, Smashing, Arena'ing - just pretend it's a real word -, and Turning .. up (loyalty medals)
Thieving, Relic Capturing (and even defending) and GvG'ing are long overdue some shineys, for all those who care about such things
Don't forget medals for inventing and merchanting
#23
Posted 10 January 2013 - 20:33
I will reiterate since there has been no discussion regarding my point.! The name mugger medal is inappropriate. It has a completely negative undertone to it and casts anyone who earns it as a villain. There are to many threads that breakdown into a debate against between PvP players and levelers calling this a mugging medal will only add credence to the levelers argument that PvP players are hurting the game.
What name would you suggest then?
#24
Posted 10 January 2013 - 20:34
I will reiterate since there has been no discussion regarding my point.! The name mugger medal is inappropriate. It has a completely negative undertone to it and casts anyone who earns it as a villain. There are to many threads that breakdown into a debate against between PvP players and levelers calling this a mugging medal will only add credence to the levelers argument that PvP players are hurting the game.
Here's the thing, stealing gold IS the equivalent to mugging irl, only its not illegal here. We attack someone, beat them down, and steal their money, and anybody who feels that Gold Stealing hurts the economy, doesnt understand how the economy of Fallensword works.
Chances are, this medal wont be called a Mugger's Medal when its released, so you dont have to worry
![:)](/public/style_emoticons/default/smile.png)
#25
Posted 10 January 2013 - 20:39
I will reiterate since there has been no discussion regarding my point.! The name mugger medal is inappropriate. It has a completely negative undertone to it and casts anyone who earns it as a villain. There are to many threads that breakdown into a debate against between PvP players and levelers calling this a mugging medal will only add credence to the levelers argument that PvP players are hurting the game.
What name would you suggest then?
First, the exclamation point was purely accidental
Secondly, maybe Gold Seeker or Midas
Thirdly, had a partially related but mostly unrelated idea while trying to think of a name:
Gold Sinking medal: earned by sinking gold by any method: special auction house, potion bazaar, hell forge, shops, portals, market place listing fees, PvP (gold lost but not stolen), gold upgrades etc
#26
Posted 10 January 2013 - 21:23
I will reiterate since there has been no discussion regarding my point.! The name mugger medal is inappropriate. It has a completely negative undertone to it and casts anyone who earns it as a villain. There are to many threads that breakdown into a debate against between PvP players and levelers calling this a mugging medal will only add credence to the levelers argument that PvP players are hurting the game.
What name would you suggest then?
First, the exclamation point was purely accidental
Secondly, maybe Gold Seeker or Midas
Thirdly, had a partially related but mostly unrelated idea while trying to think of a name:
Gold Sinking medal: earned by sinking gold by any method: special auction house, potion bazaar, hell forge, shops, portals, market place listing fees, PvP (gold lost but not stolen), gold upgrades etc
Medal can be called as Gold lovers medal, that should be sweet and kind enough, name does matter to me..lol as long as gold is taken by attacking other players only!!!!! This is PVP medal.
#27
Posted 10 January 2013 - 21:24
#28
Posted 10 January 2013 - 21:47
![:D](/public/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.png)
Back on topic, I have been trying to think of a downside to this suggestion and I personally can't think of any. As a leveler its really up to me to keep my gold to a minimum so as not to attract unwanted attention from a PvP specialist. Or be wearing a good defensive set up with adequate buffage to make a PvP player think twice about hitting me if my gold on hand is a bit on the high side. Both of these are within my control so if i choose not to do either of these and have high gold on hand I would call myself " Fair Game ".
If its " Fair Game " then its an aye for the " Muggers Medal "
One thing though. Would a decay % be required on the medal if a Top 250 list was introduced as suggested in the original post?
Cheers.
wil72
#29
fs_alukard06
Posted 10 January 2013 - 22:00
#30
Posted 10 January 2013 - 23:01
Here's the thing, if its called " Muggers Medal " and you want to compare this description to real life, which is just crazy in my opinion, then there would have to be a consequence for your actions, say a jail term, a bit o bird. How many moon would you be prepared to do? I jest of course, just havin a bit o fun with all this
There is. Its called the Bounty Board.
Back on topic, I have been trying to think of a downside to this suggestion and I personally can't think of any. As a leveler its really up to me to keep my gold to a minimum so as not to attract unwanted attention from a PvP specialist. Or be wearing a good defensive set up with adequate buffage to make a PvP player think twice about hitting me if my gold on hand is a bit on the high side. Both of these are within my control so if i choose not to do either of these and have high gold on hand I would call myself " Fair Game ".
If its " Fair Game " then its an aye for the " Muggers Medal "
One thing though. Would a decay % be required on the medal if a Top 250 list was introduced as suggested in the original post?
Cheers.
wil72
Its the same thing as it is now. Just a Medal to promote additional PvP.
I hunted yesterday, and got 500k with 3k stam. I was anxious while waiting for my gold to sell for FSP. I have the gear and buffs to have a chance to defend myself, but you never know what can happen
![:)](/public/style_emoticons/default/smile.png)
#31
Posted 10 January 2013 - 23:09
![:lol:](/public/style_emoticons/default/laugh.png)
#32
Posted 10 January 2013 - 23:43
Here's the thing, if its called " Muggers Medal " and you want to compare this description to real life, which is just crazy in my opinion, then there would have to be a consequence for your actions, say a jail term, a bit o bird. How many moon would you be prepared to do? I jest of course, just havin a bit o fun with all this
There is. Its called the Bounty Board.
Hardly prison mate, you may be on it but you still have your liberty.
Back on topic, I have been trying to think of a downside to this suggestion and I personally can't think of any. As a leveler its really up to me to keep my gold to a minimum so as not to attract unwanted attention from a PvP specialist. Or be wearing a good defensive set up with adequate buffage to make a PvP player think twice about hitting me if my gold on hand is a bit on the high side. Both of these are within my control so if i choose not to do either of these and have high gold on hand I would call myself " Fair Game ".
If its " Fair Game " then its an aye for the " Muggers Medal "
One thing though. Would a decay % be required on the medal if a Top 250 list was introduced as suggested in the original post?
Cheers.
wil72
Its the same thing as it is now. Just a Medal to promote additional PvP.
I hunted yesterday, and got 500k with 3k stam. I was anxious while waiting for my gold to sell for FSP. I have the gear and buffs to have a chance to defend myself, but you never know what can happen![]()
No you don't but but being prepared sure helps :wink:
Cheers.
wil72
#33
Posted 10 January 2013 - 23:53
#34
Posted 11 January 2013 - 00:00
what else are you going to be called when you attack someone for their golds? :shock: some like being the villain..tis why we have a bounty system..the mechanics suggest and offer that type of play style
Then frankly, don't be upset when others try and push PvP out of the game. It should not be thought of as criminal, it's not. This is just a game, but to reward specific gameplay with a medal that's name has a criminal connotation can be construed as rewarding criminal behavior.
The medal is a good idea, the name just feeds into the Hatfields and McCoys, sorry, I mean levelers and pvpers.
Have some common sense even just suggesting it be called a muggers medal is asinine.
#35
Posted 11 January 2013 - 00:12
Here's the thing, if its called " Muggers Medal " and you want to compare this description to real life, which is just crazy in my opinion, then there would have to be a consequence for your actions, say a jail term, a bit o bird. How many moon would you be prepared to do? I jest of course, just havin a bit o fun with all this
There is. Its called the Bounty Board.
Hardly prison mate, you may be on it but you still have your liberty.
I meant There is a consequence for your actions. What would this "Jail" do? Prevent you from doing ANYTHING in FS? Why? What would it achieve? We are trying to get more PvP, not less
![;)](/public/style_emoticons/default/wink.png)
what else are you going to be called when you attack someone for their golds? :shock: some like being the villain..tis why we have a bounty system..the mechanics suggest and offer that type of play style
Then frankly, don't be upset when others try and push PvP out of the game. It should not be thought of as criminal, it's not. This is just a game, but to reward specific gameplay with a medal that's name has a criminal connotation can be construed as rewarding criminal behavior.
The medal is a good idea, the name just feeds into the Hatfields and McCoys, sorry, I mean levelers and pvpers.
Have some common sense even just suggesting it be called a muggers medal is asinine.
Society itself rewards criminal behavior already, whether you like it or not
![:)](/public/style_emoticons/default/smile.png)
#36
Posted 11 January 2013 - 00:14
what else are you going to be called when you attack someone for their golds? :shock: some like being the villain..tis why we have a bounty system..the mechanics suggest and offer that type of play style
Then frankly, don't be upset when others try and push PvP out of the game. It should not be thought of as criminal, it's not. This is just a game, but to reward specific gameplay with a medal that's name has a criminal connotation can be construed as rewarding criminal behavior.
The medal is a good idea, the name just feeds into the Hatfields and McCoys, sorry, I mean levelers and pvpers.
Have some common sense even just suggesting it be called a muggers medal is asinine.
The part I have highlighted I agree with. But the rest, sorry, no way. Can't use the term muggers in an online game? Are you serious?
Are there not Mobs called " Pirates ". This is an illegal activity. Must this be removed too? Come on man, like you say....." This is just a game ".
Cheers.
wil72
#37
Posted 11 January 2013 - 00:33
Here's the thing, if its called " Muggers Medal " and you want to compare this description to real life, which is just crazy in my opinion, then there would have to be a consequence for your actions, say a jail term, a bit o bird. How many moon would you be prepared to do? I jest of course, just havin a bit o fun with all this
There is. Its called the Bounty Board.Hardly prison mate, you may be on it but you still have your liberty.
I meant There is a consequence for your actions. What would this "Jail" do? Prevent you from doing ANYTHING in FS? Why? What would it achieve? We are trying to get more PvP, not less
Mate, I was joking hence the reference " I jest " in my first post. Had to retort to your reply though :wink:
For the avoidance of any doubt I'm all for the " Muggers Medal "
![:D](/public/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.png)
Cheers
wil72
#38
fs_evilix
Posted 11 January 2013 - 01:27
It will generate more activity and bring more life back into the game.You hear all the time that there is to much gold in the game as it is now.More pvp,more gold loss,especially if the Thievery enhancement is raised to steal more gold.More bounties,more bounty hunters back in business(activity).More gold and/or fsp to buy bounty tickets.More stam used for bounty hunting and re-leveling.
I've seen well known levelers have bounty and smash medals even if they have stopped at bronze just to have it.I've seen PvPer's with Titan and quest medals etc etc.How many players actually have the chance to to be #1 in the game?How many have a chance to be #1 gold hoarder? Recruiting medal?
Lets have another medal that everyone can obtain and enjoy,and make sure it's done correctly.I think Kitiara's suggestion is the best so far :idea:
#39
Posted 11 January 2013 - 03:17
I love this idea. The more medals to recognize all aspects of the game, the better.
Meh.
#40
Posted 11 January 2013 - 03:26
Mummra: with ALL due respect, get over it (true response edited). You're nit-picking worse than a pair of grooming gorillas. This obsession with the criminal implications of the name of the medal verges on the bizarre.
I love this idea. The more medals to recognize all aspects of the game, the better.
Meh.
With all due respect, maybe you should actually read and comprehend what is being written. I am 100% in favor of medal like this being introduced.
HOWEVER, I feel that calling it a Mugger's Medal, even here in preliminary stages of a suggestion is irresponsible. There are far to many threads that have even a little to do with PvP, that devolve into an argument consisting of extremist views. There are many attempts to bring this game into the real world and call PvP a crime against it. This is NOT how I feel, but naming this medal after petty criminal activity is just shortsighted.
1 user(s) are reading this topic
0 members, 1 guests, 0 anonymous users