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[RISDMAC]

I upgraded my energy so that i would have a max capacity of over 24 hours so i wouldnt have to log in to spend everyday.
This was as you say a bad call, but there isnt much I can do about it now... lol
Intensifier, while i know you disagree with it coming in now, would be quite useful in allowing players [ me ;-)] to log in for a half an hour and spend and enjoy that spend...
i know you dont agree but its juust how i feel on the issue

[ecolitan]

The call for the intensifier stims here has nothing to do with the xp/energy gain from it. The call for intensifier stims here is about the length of time it takes to use energy. I'll repeat. I know several players that will not come back to SS2 until it is introduced. Players that have traditionally been large donators in "that other game". It just plain takes too long to do anything in this game without it.

Call people spoiled by FS with doublers. Fine. The fact that they leave the game isn't fixed by commenting on what caused them to want energy burn to go more quickly.

[RISDMAC]

The call for the intensifier stims here has nothing to do with the xp/energy gain from it. The call for intensifier stims here is about the length of time it takes to use energy. I'll repeat. I know several players that will not come back to SS2 until it is introduced. Players that have traditionally been large donators in "that other game". It just plain takes too long to do anything in this game without it.

Call people spoiled by FS with doublers. Fine. The fact that they leave the game isn't fixed by commenting on what caused them to want energy burn to go more quickly.

No one is asking anyone to burn all the energy one would have. The fact of the matter is that there are no maps to support the skill, potion, or stim. As of right now it is part of the game. As you can see the demand for such things are not that high. There are only what, 10 or 15 posts asking for the skill to be put in the game. I understand people want to be a top player, so do I. Rather than workiong for the top spot, some just want it given to them. And i think this is what all the posts about this skill is about. Top spot with little or no work. Very true, i disagree with the skill in the game now. Why, because it was a wonderful gift that I got on New Years! I am waiting to see if I can get another one for V day. If the skill was an everyday thing, we would all be at the top spot. What fun is that. 200,000 people all going after the same elite. It would take for ever to finish that quest, if killing an elite is a quest.

did you even read ecolitan's post... its not about being in top spot!
its about the amount of time required to spend energy.
the reason there are very litlle posts is because some people have just stopped playing.
most of us would like it if there was an intensifier. it takes me 45 minutes to burn 500 energy right now so even if i hadnt upgraded my energy i still would prefer if i could play for 15-20 min to burn 500 energy rather than 45min, its simply too time consuming
so please stop saying that all we want to do is get to the top spot, its not true in all of our cases and at least read prior posts properly before commenting

[ecolitan]

You obviously don't understand how intensifier (or instant respawn) works if you think there would be 200,000 players in the last realm with nothing to kill. Would there be a slight increase in the percentage of players that got to content cap? Yes. Unlike FS, SS2 seems to have instant spawns so everyone would find things to kill - not that that matters. But even if you think intensifier increases xp/energy too much, this fixes itself as levels go up as the energy per level is increased quite a bit in the next levels we will see in SS2. Of course - making large maps with long distances to move would use energy in a way intensifier can't offset. So, any dev with a brain could keep in front of intensifier for leveling.

Your insulting lines about how to level and getting new computers also miss the point. There are players that have lives and play FS. For them this is a secondary game. If they can't come in and burn energy efficiently they don't have the will to play. You say ignore these people. Fine, you can have that opinion. But, I don't want to buy stock in your ideas. These people are real customers with jobs and MONEY TO DONATE.

I really don't care if you think intensifier is a good idea or not. The people that want intensifier are those with 1k, 2k, 3k or more max energy and upgraded energy gain. The people who pay to keep the game going. THAT is what it is about. If more of these people get frustrated and leave the game it will fold up. It's these paying customers that let the game happen. My point is, the paying customers really really want instensifier. I also know of a decent number of potential paying customers (who have a track record of paying for games of this type) who won't come over and play here again without it. This is being put out there for HCS to digest, not you.

p.s. - I'd love 500 people hunting in the realm with the TRUE instant spawn of SS2. I'd find a square and just kill them as they showed up and never move. Might not be instant but would be ultra energy efficient. You are thinking of the way FS spawns - there it would be more difficult.

[RISDMAC]

excluding the time it takes to walk to the repair shop i spend about 35 min spending between 500-1000 energy depending on the day.
X2 intensifier would half this time, X3 would divide it by 3. either would be most welcome.

only some people would try to capitalise on the introduction of intensifier, not the mass flock you talk about, but even this "disadvantage" as you call it would be welcomed by some people as the PVP element is a bit dead to the game at the moment. More people would allow more people to enejoy PVP

I have a fast laptop and fasxt net connection, thats not the issue, i play casually. im not in a rush to get to the end, i'll get there when i get there. my interest is in efficient time management.

As ecolatin says, the game will die if we lose too many contributors or dont attract more to the game.

Plus if you read my initial post, i never once said anything against HSC, quite the contrary, i complimented them on a well thought out, well developed game. so i dont know why you think im coming down on them when i havent said anything negative about them

[RebornJedi]

i only burn a max of 800 energy and its not a fun experience burning that energy to level. a x2 stim would be good enough. i dont think they should go higher. a 1.5x intensifier would be better then nothing ;P i dont want to imagine those who have to burn 1000+ energy.

this reminds me of the early days of FS. no doubler, trying to multiclick *shakes head and shivers* it sucks for those who dont have any addons because we can atleast punch some numbers to kill. the slow burning of energy is probably keeping away some new players and existing players. its all about playability. your experience should be fun. i love where this game is going. i love inventing everything and the quests are fun at times. i just wish i didnt have to spend sooo much time on mindless killing, i dont want it to be like FS where thats basically all there is. a x2 intensifier stim would be a great thing to add to this game *thumbs up

[RebornJedi]

i dont understand your logic squoof. if there was an intensifier stim, there would be less creatures that you need to kill to level. you level, your done, your off. how would an intensifier stim ruin pvp?? it has nothing to do with pvp. it just multiplies the energy used and gold/exp gained from the creature.

[ecolitan]

He makes these wild assumptions that 1) there are 200k players of the game and 2) they all could magically be to content cap with intensifier. Thus, there would be this big ole logjam of 200k players all twiddling their thumbs sitting in the last realm. These assumptions are illogical to me so I totally discount this wild negative associated with intensifier stims. Leaving me with a credit sink that brings in and retains more players at little or no cost once levels approach 100 and xp/level is fairly high. In fact - you could argue that intensifier brings the latecomer or less efficient player "up toward" me so it's a disadvantage to me. Fine, I'll accept that for the convenience.

I'll do this in short sentences. I use the energy I want. I can manage without intensifier. It would be more PLEASANT with intensifier. I know of OTHER players who have stopped playing without intensifier. I don't care if you are fine without it. My point remains: the number of ACTIVE players in SS2 will increase with intensifier. I didn't say you (or anyone else) doesn't donate. I said players with high max energy are donators. I said players with high max energy are those that want intensifier. Thus, donators (as a rule) want intensifier.

[RISDMAC]

errrrrrrrr, just because I have 500 energy, I do not donate to the game?

I apologise that i didnt make myself clear, that you havent donated to upgrade your energy is what i meant to say but obviously phrased it poorly.

All I know is what you have told me and what it takes for me to do the same thing.

If you don't have the time to play all the energy you have, why did you get so much? there was no skill for you to use before you decided to buy all of it. Did you do it for the gift from New Year? If you did, that is great. You were able to use the gift to the fullest.

Its great that you can spend in a short amount of time what takes me up to 45 min to do, that still doesnt help me, does it? :roll:

I upgraded it when i was a lower level and leveling didnt take quite as long, i didnt anticipate the slow in the rate of time it takes to level to get this slow this quickly, an error in judgement on my behalf
I also upgraded it for convenience so that i wouldnt have to log in every single day: this has now not worked as it would take over 3 hours to do so. your response is that i dont have to. my response is that as a paying customer id like to get some benefit for MY investment. i had already contributed before the first HCS reaction to the intensifier call

The stim, skill, potion, or blah blah blah is going to increase the leveling. Am I not correct? if there are only so many levels, where will these players go? chances are they would go to the last map.

As of right now, my rank is 229, with 500 energy. I can keep up with HCS making new content. if there are 200,000 people in the game, how many are going to take part of the skill? 10, 20, 30%. Lets go with 1%. That is still 2,000 players. Even .5% is too many players in one map. This game is going to grow just like its big brother FS. When SS2 get 1,000 to 3,000 players playing at the same time, how many players are going to be at the last map? A good number of them, i would think.

With that many players in one map, PvP is not going to much fun either in my opinion. Everyone in that map level will have the crystal PvP for all the classes pretty quick. I think the skill would kill PvP, just like it would kill the game. Even if the last map is not PvP, the top players (meaning the players at the end of content) would still come down and PvP the players trying to level, making it harder to level.

With out the skill, it gives HCS a chance to keep the majority happy.

I intend to go hunt HK's, i want my medal

to get to the end of content they would still have to catch up, thats not going to happen instantaneously just cause intensifier was introduced, it would take a while

if you go by the majority on this post, its with the people who want intensifier, only 2 people have posted against.
And going by how many people i know who do want it,i would say the majority still lies with those of us who would like it introduced

[RebornJedi]

your logic is broken. the skill will make this game better. theres nothing wrong with it. AT ALL. you could cut your bs cake as many times as you want but this would increase the happiness and enjoyment in this game.

who cares if its an 'advantage', a small one of that....its available to EVERYONE!

and how you keep bringing up the end of the content 'idea'. ill bet most of the players at the max content go off to make some FCs from hunting elites or finishing up some quests, saving energay, or subleveling. if they added an intensifier it would help with the traffic at the end of the content. the skill wouldnt flood the end content much less without it. it will just lessen the time it takes to level to get to it. you still have to wait hour by hour for more energy. the stim will only help WITH THE TIME IT ACTUALLY TAKES TO BURN YOUR ENERGY. nothing else. it wont give you super powers to fly to the end content.

[RISDMAC]

The skill would still give a huge advantage to level. 2 times the xp with half the repair cost (credit and energy from running back and forth).

Thats why in my initial post i suggested that whatever stim is introduced have a stipulation that you receive extra damage to weapons...
I dont want to affect the repair part of the game and while receiving extra damage while using an intensifier stim is only a quick fix, it is just a suggestion.