World 2?
#21
Posted 07 November 2007 - 21:26
Thats actually maybe a better idea you know
#22 gothador_nyt
Posted 07 November 2007 - 21:26
I can see where people wouldn't want to switch, because they have achieved what they want to. I can also see how it would worry people who have worked so hard to get where they are at, only to feel like they are getting shifted to the wayside. I'm torn on where to stand, only because I can see how they are feeling, but I am also a large fan of progression and growth.
I honestly feel that people might be more inclined to at least try it out if they weren't meant to feel like "World 1" would die out for lack of interest.
#23
Posted 07 November 2007 - 21:27
armybeans,
Thats actually maybe a better idea you know
Go with it then hoof and put all the effort of the new world into updates and invasions for us here
#24
Posted 07 November 2007 - 21:28
Benefit: Another challenge
Drawback: if its the same, i can't see why, unless a total new player, or as someone said, mid to lower level, would want to start over and have the same thing as here... I'm not sure that came out clear, but...
Benefit: Something new
Drawback: Something old at the same time.
Benefit: Lighter server loads
Drawback: The total fear that the original is going to die.
Benefit: Cost?
Drawback: What is invested here. I mean sure, MM will stay here, why wouldn't she? But will someone else, or even me, be able to start an MM over there and the original stay here?
I think I see where you're heading in a way because its done on many other games and is great, but there are problems with it at the same time. The other games that I play do have new servers all the time, but I know very little about them.
You said that we would have the same forum but no other interaction with 'them' is it going to become a 'them' vs 'us'?
I think my biggest fear is loosing what we do already have here and what can be with gothador #1. I haven't voted yet, am still thinking on it.
#25
Posted 07 November 2007 - 21:30
I do not see where this benefits anyone who is currently playing the game, with the rare exception to those newer folk who want a fresh start (or for those who have really buggered up characters).
Everyone will be starting with an equal chance of levelling up, but without the "natural progression" of additions and realms and invasions, it seems a bit awkward. I mean all of the existing enchantments and items are there to be had, just a matter of who has the money to spend on speed to get there first. There would not be much of a challenge to getting to where the game already is, because everything has been figured out (except for the Trophy quest, which the start and level restriction have been determined) by us thus far. It would seem the only way to get to the top in world 2 is by spending a ton of cash and levelling your brains out (whichever sub-class you choose), with not much of a mental challenge to it at all.
"Well I talk loud, and carry a bigger stick! And I use it too!" - Yosemite Sam
#26 gothador_chunkymonke
Posted 07 November 2007 - 21:30
armybeans,
Thats actually maybe a better idea you know
Go with it then hoof and put all the effort of the new world into updates and invasions for us here
i really like this guys thinking do eeeeeeeeeeet hooooooooooooofy baby
#27 gothador_chunkymonke
Posted 07 November 2007 - 21:32
I do not see where this benefits anyone who is currently playing the game, with the rare exception to those newer folk who want a fresh start (or for those who have really buggered up characters).
why do i get the feeling bayer will agree and want world 2
#28
Posted 07 November 2007 - 21:34
if there's going to be a new world build with the exact same stuff as we've got now, why not extract all the current users with their current stats, replace world 1 with world 2, called it Gothador 2.0 and put the users back in and give those who have played for 3 years a good clean server to play with? I don't think anyone would mind a prolonged period of downtime if it ment all the bugs would be gone after that.
and what about the content updates ? sure, they will be updated simultanously on both worlds but those still in world 1 will still have to put up with some bugs and undoubtely bugs will appear in world 2 as well, it's just in the nature of software, bugs WILL appear and then you'll have 2 worlds to put extra work in. that's time better spend downing a pint or 2 I would say, got your best interests in mind here Hoofie :wink:
so...it's a definite no answer on my part.
#29
Posted 07 November 2007 - 21:38
All new players start on Gothador1. What you say? the same thing? Sorta.... but they would not have all the upper players whinging them, beating them to invasion critters, doing quests and shutting them out and smashing them in PvP and I wont even go into what happens in invasions. But what about the 'old players' those of us who have been here forever?
More XX amount of the top XXX players to the new realm. New worlds, new quests, new critters etc.
#30 gothador_grandmaster
Posted 07 November 2007 - 21:39
#31
Posted 07 November 2007 - 21:39
#32 gothador_nyt
Posted 07 November 2007 - 21:41
I can tell that most people, myself included, are going to want to keep their characters here. I'm all for change, but I also know how people feel about their characters as well. Maybe a quest where all level up points, character class and character subclass and skill points could be changed. The character could keep all of their XP and level up points and essentially go back and choose another subclass, then go through the paths to become another class.
There would have to be a series of quests for character change, as all of the 4th tier stuff, as well as 3rd tier would have been done, thus giving the character itself the basic "knowledge" of each class. But I'd imagine that we'd need 6 separate quests, one for each 4th tier class, and the character could choose any one and be infused with the "Knowledge of Life and Death" or something like that and... boom, transformation from Infernal to Celestial, or whatever their former class was to the new class.
Sounds like I'm rambling again, but there's a few thoughts for you that would keep everyone happy, even those poor people that put their Advanced Skill Points into the stuff they'll never use again.
#33 gothador_grandmaster
Posted 07 November 2007 - 21:42
#34 gothador_armybeans
Posted 07 November 2007 - 21:44
Most people use speed they have acquired with their main char to help support the new miners until they reach the top.army for almost 2 years mined and smelted almost exclusively with occasional boosting.
If I was having to buy usps to build up a new mage, there is no way I could afford to boost a miner also to be able to get to the top bars. How many miner mains are there in gothador who can say they don't play another char also, and occasionally gotten help from other char.
#35
Posted 07 November 2007 - 21:45
Hmmmm how about this idea...or along these lines anyways....
All new players start on Gothador1. What you say? the same thing? Sorta.... but they would not have all the upper players whinging them, beating them to invasion critters, doing quests and shutting them out and smashing them in PvP and I wont even go into what happens in invasions. But what about the 'old players' those of us who have been here forever?
More XX amount of the top XXX players to the new realm. New worlds, new quests, new critters etc.
so your saying once you get in the top ranks, you have to leave?
I know the big guys aint going to walk away and desert thier chars here, to make it easier on new guys.
If it was possible to interact between worlds, then i would like it, or at least understand the point.
But all your doing is starting a NEW gothador, just like this one..with the same updates and everything. whats the difference between that and just creating a NEW char here?
#36
Posted 07 November 2007 - 21:46
#37 gothador_grandmaster
Posted 07 November 2007 - 21:47
#38 gothador_chunkymonke
Posted 07 November 2007 - 21:48
#39 gothador_armybeans
Posted 07 November 2007 - 21:49
#40
Posted 07 November 2007 - 21:49
You'd have to walk away and leave your char that you have worked all this time on. put all that love into.
no thanks, I may not be a high ranked and level char, but I will not walk off and start over, just to give a noob a break.
Like Army said, if you want to start over, then do it here..and build it from the ground up with out a helping hand
I've done that...its quite fun
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