Ok. I'll get back in the habit of speaking s l o w l y.
Or you can drop the habit of sarcasm, believe me, it helps nothing at all except your self-satisfaction
When I said we waited to go in, that implied (and I meant) that we had 0 kills for the first few hours. It wasn't being killed so we went in. Mamo coming in after we secured an Altus is not what I meant (and he got over it quickly and isn't mad at us at all - especially once he accepts the trade and has a pretty hat ).
Glad how that turns out. However, before your post, the Mamo's thread about his Behemoth hunting experience is quite memorable, don't you think? And that's why I am so supporting the 2nd-5th prize idea.
As for the bonus - I disagree. For Altus it would mean 4 helms per faction for most factions and for the Rosarakan it would do little; but giving us something to make WITH the arc would (and making it made with arc instead of Heart would benefit others more than Stars).
I think almost all factions have some centralized inventors, and not every faction inventing/crafting when the items in TH are dropping price rapidly. So I still think the bonus only serves the next 20 or so Behemoth (or even less).
I'm not opposed to the 2nd - 5th prizes if they're done properly. I do NOT want a system where a faction (yeah, it'd be us atm) is punished for winning the Behemoth. I REALLY don't want more Behemoth items out in the world. So, it has to be done properly and that means not getting "part" of Behemoth drop as prize, and not having it be that the winner can't get what the non-winners get too.
I don't want your faction (or any other factions) to be punished for winning either. Is that the case in Swords after HCS's changes?
Anyways, not punishing the winning faction doesn't mean there shouldn't more Behemoth items or whatever other items they can be. I think this is why the 2nd-5th prize system is not here yet, HCS might want to learn more from Sword?
So I understand that you don't want more Behemoth items. What about others?