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[BigGrim]

How about like… a sorta Cow themed piñata as the chest? Maybe even give reference to HCG staff?

Arioche’s Cloche, Stash of Hoof’s Hooves, Grim’s Grimmer Glimmers? Maybe even run a player contest to have them design and come up with good chest ideas/contents? The Titan Design was a fairly solid hit, so why not?

 

Could be fun. We'll see.

 

~ Grim

[BigGrim]

Hey everyone. 

 

Been through this again. This is still something I wanna look at. Any further ideas? Bear in mind, any ideas that require extensive code is unlikely to be entertained.

 

~ Grim

[BigGrim]

Hey there.

 

So, thus far I'm gonna defo add new potions and Frag Stashes to Crates (Realm Chests). Thinking both mixed Frags and specific Frag crates.

 

Gonna think on Quest Items that I'll add which will be used in new and future sets.

 

~ Grim

[shindrak]

Hey there.

 

So, thus far I'm gonna defo add new potions and Frag Stashes to Crates (Realm Chests). Thinking both mixed Frags and specific Frag crates.

 

Gonna think on Quest Items that I'll add which will be used in new and future sets.

 

~ Grim

I don't see much interest in frag stashes, keep it for globals and fragging items ... we have a load of items in-gameLoyalty tokens rewards and new potions as suggested in this thread earlier.

[BigGrim]

Hey there.

 

There's requests for Frag Stashes in this very thread, so there is interest. I mentioned potions in my post above, so yeah.

 

Loyalty Stashes I've asked for. We'll see if it can be coded. If so, I'm happy to introduce a Loyalty Stash that functions like the Mystic (Shard) Stash.

 

~ Grim

[Kenjaku]

i think larger frag stashes are a fantastic idea, double drops on crystal keys would be nice with proper ratios. still reading and thinking about all this. though i love the ideas placed forth here

[BullsHead]

The larger frag stashes are a great idea, I do believe potions should be confined to bronze and silver chests. 1000 loyalty is a lot of days/donated money and to open something for 1000 loyalty, or 55 dots worth of gold and get any type of potion seems a kick in the teeth.

 

Unless you were to implement some 'overpowered' pots as you put it, Teleport 200, Titan Immobiliser, LF 1500, Conserve 800-900(?), Distil 250-300 for example. All the rewards should greatly outweigh the costs of things such as 'loyalty' points, especially as they're such a rarity (as are the chests). At least the bronze and silver can be bought for a reasonable amount of gold.

 

Loyalty stashes also great and would help counter the issue above.

 

Anything to do with Epics is a win, always need more upgradable Epics. If anything to add value to most obsolete Epics/Crystal/SE items!

Edited by BullsHead, 30 May 2024 - 19:43.

[shindrak]

I still insist frag stashes kill the idea of fragging items to reduce items flooding the game and retain some value to items again.

 a big no for frag stashes from me.

[BigGrim]

Hey there.

 

So, what we're looking at for the Crates is as follows. 

 

Possible Potions: 

 

Conserve 800. 60m.

Adept Learner 800. 60m.

Light Foot 1500. 60m.

Overkill 1100. 60m.

Titan Doubler 300. 60m.

Counter Attack 300. 60m.

Invigorate 1000. 720m.

 

Frag stashes:

 

Worldly Frag Stashes, Bronze to Ruby. These are the mixed frags, similar to those in the Globals, just with more Frags and unbound.

 

Then we have : 

 

Worldly SE Frag Stash

Worldly Crystal Frag Stash

Worldly Legendary Frag Stash

Worldly Unique Frag Stash

Worldly Rare Frag Stash

Worldly Common Frag Stash

 

Frag Stashes with a single type of Frag. Higher quantity and unbound.

 

Loyalty Point Crates

 

Probably going to be able to do Loyalty Point crates, similar to the Mystic Shard Crates. Would be released without any fanfare, same as the Mystics. (Though we'd announce them if/when implemented.)

 

Questions.

 

Would we want these added to existing Crates? Or brand new ones?

 

Quest Items. Used for inventing upgraded Epics? If so, likely one of due to rarity/scarcity?

 

~ Grim

[shindrak]

Hey there.

 

So, what we're looking at for the Crates is as follows. 

 

Possible Potions: 

 

Conserve 800. 60m.  Looks good

Adept Learner 800. 60m. looks good

Light Foot 1500. 60m. looks good

Overkill 1100. 60m. Already available as drop from SE, keep it as SE drop only.

Titan Doubler 300. 60m. Titan hunting already going fast with TD 200, I dont see the need of this

Counter Attack 300. 60m. Pretty useless 

Invigorate 1000. 720m.  this is ok

 

Frag stashes:

 

Again, whats the point of handingover frags easily while originally it was implemented to reduce items flooding in the game ?

 

[BigGrim]

Overkill 1100. 60m. Already available as drop from SE, keep it as SE drop only.

Huh. Must be missing from my document. What is it called again?

Titan Doubler 300. 60m. Titan hunting already going fast with TD 200, I dont see the need of this

Generally, feedback has been it'd be helpful for those clearing the Titans.

Counter Attack 300. 60m. Pretty useless 

Then what would MAKE it useful?

~ Grim

[shindrak]

Huh. Must be missing from my document. What is it called again?

Generally, feedback has been it'd be helpful for those clearing the Titans.

Then what would MAKE it useful?

~ Grim

OK1100 drops from Murkwood Guardian SE
 

Regarding TD300
No one will use a rare potion to clear regular titans, they will use it to secure titan and it will be left uncleared  for days
 

Regarding CA300

why would we need it anyway? it's already easy to kill any SE without it

 

and whoever uses this buff for leveling plays inefficiently as they lose more stamina than they gain XP
 

  +0.25% per point to Attack and Damage at the cost of +0.25% per point Stamina (PvE only, casting level can be adjusted from your Preferences)

 

I'd suggest Reckoning 400 potion

also some pvp oriented buffs
Shield strike 400 & Savagery 300

Edited by shindrak, 20 June 2024 - 13:08.

[BigGrim]

OK1100 drops from Murkwood Guardian SE

Thank you!
 

Regarding TD300
No one will use a rare potion to clear regular titans, they will use it to secure titan and it will be left uncleared  for days

If so, why was it suggested then?
 

Regarding CA300
why would we need it anyway? it's already easy to kill any SE without it
 
and whoever uses this buff for leveling plays inefficiently as they lose more stamina than they gain XP

Same thing, why was it suggested? Remember, not everyone plays the same way.
 

I'd suggest Reckoning 400 potion

Maybe 300? 400 is double the highest version at the moment. Plus that one is an inventable.
 

also some pvp oriented buffs
Shield strike 400 & Savagery 300

In individual potions or a combined potion? I don't have a problem with either buff.

~ Grim

[shindrak]

If so, why was it suggested then?
It could be ok to add TD 300 pot
 
Maybe 300? 400 is double the highest version at the moment. Plus that one is an inevitable.

well 300 is ok though, it will be a rare though from a regular realm chest

In individual potions or a combined potion? I don't have a problem with either buff.

Individual could be better

~ Grim

 

[Tilley10]

Hey there.

 

So, what we're looking at for the Crates is as follows. 

 

Possible Potions: 

 

Conserve 800. 60m. Sure

Adept Learner 800. 60m. Sure

Light Foot 1500. 60m. Sure

Overkill 1100. 60m. SE Drop already - either way.

Titan Doubler 300. 60m. Sure

Counter Attack 300. 60m. Eliminate entirely - no.

Invigorate 1000. 720m. Sure

 

Frag stashes:

 

Worldly Frag Stashes, Bronze to Ruby. These are the mixed frags, similar to those in the Globals, just with more Frags and unbound. No

 

Then we have : 

 

Worldly SE Frag Stash No

Worldly Crystal Frag Stash No

Worldly Legendary Frag Stash No

Worldly Unique Frag Stash No

Worldly Rare Frag Stash No

Worldly Common Frag Stash No

 

Frag Stashes with a single type of Frag. Higher quantity and unbound. No

 

Frag stashes are not needed - at all. This would clog up the new chest drops. Eliminate Frag Stashes entirely.

 

Loyalty Point Crates

 

Probably going to be able to do Loyalty Point crates, similar to the Mystic Shard Crates. Would be released without any fanfare, same as the Mystics. (Though we'd announce them if/when implemented.) Yes - best idea in this post.

 

Questions.

 

Would we want these added to existing Crates? Or brand new ones?

 

Quest Items. Used for inventing upgraded Epics? If so, likely one of due to rarity/scarcity?

 

~ Grim

Responses in orange.

 

All the potion ideas are driven toward PvE only. How about some PvP potion content as well? And/or, this is the opportunity to add new potions to the game that already exist within the Skill Guide: Immobilise Titan, Trendy.

[BullsHead]

Hey there.

 

So, what we're looking at for the Crates is as follows. 

 

Possible Potions: 

 

Conserve 800. 60m. Yes

Adept Learner 800. 60m. Yes

Light Foot 1500. 60m. Yes, but maybe last longer, similar to global, or 120/180 so it's now as powerful. Most players that hunt chests/SE are on/off throughout the day, so be good to get real value.

Overkill 1100. 60m. Yes, I know it drops from an SE, but that's EoC exclusive. Needs to be available for most/all players, new players need things like this as encouragement to continue playing.

Titan Doubler 300. 60m. I still think Teleport 200 would be more beneficial, or Titan Immobiliser. 

Counter Attack 300. 60m. Don't know

Invigorate 1000. 720m. Yes

 

Also think a higher Distil would be good, somewhere between 200-300, and/or a higher level Stalker

 

Frag stashes:

 

Worldly Frag Stashes, Bronze to Ruby. These are the mixed frags, similar to those in the Globals, just with more Frags and unbound.

 

Then we have : 

 

Worldly SE Frag Stash

Worldly Crystal Frag Stash

Worldly Legendary Frag Stash

Worldly Unique Frag Stash

Worldly Rare Frag Stash

Worldly Common Frag Stash

 

Frag Stashes with a single type of Frag. Higher quantity and unbound.

 

As someone rather new to the game, they would benefit someone like me and other newer players.

 

Loyalty Point Crates

 

Probably going to be able to do Loyalty Point crates, similar to the Mystic Shard Crates. Would be released without any fanfare, same as the Mystics. (Though we'd announce them if/when implemented.)  Absolutely

 

Questions.

 

Would we want these added to existing Crates? Or brand new ones? Maybe a bit of both, depends on how much you plan on adding to the game?

 

Quest Items. Used for inventing upgraded Epics? If so, likely one of due to rarity/scarcity? One per new Epic?

 

~ Grim

[Toreth]

Overkill 1100. 60m.

Titan Doubler 300. 60m.

Counter Attack 300. 60m.

 

Frag stashes:

 

Worldly Frag Stashes, Bronze to Ruby. These are the mixed frags, similar to those in the Globals, just with more Frags and unbound.

 

Then we have : 

 

Worldly SE Frag Stash

Worldly Crystal Frag Stash

Worldly Legendary Frag Stash

Worldly Unique Frag Stash

Worldly Rare Frag Stash

Worldly Common Frag Stash

 

Frag Stashes with a single type of Frag. Higher quantity and unbound.

 

Questions.

 

Would we want these added to existing Crates? Or brand new ones?

 

Quest Items. Used for inventing upgraded Epics? If so, likely one of due to rarity/scarcity?

 

~ Grim

 

Everything not quoted is fine.

As others have said, OK 1100 already exists and sells well. With the potion flowing throughout the market, adding direct competition to it would be a terrible idea.

Titan Doubler 300 was suggested as a "for cleanup," idea, sure, but realistically, it's going to be used to secure holiday and limited titans more quickly. All it does is further exacerbate an already prevalent issue.

 

I don't know why Counter Attack was suggested. It's an abysmal buff that should never see any use in its current iteration. Squandering stamina against PvE mobs is the worst thing you can do, and when it offers Attack and Damage which are the easiest two stats to get thanks to the way gear distribution and buff work currently, this is a wasted slot. Counter Attack needs a complete rework or this suggestion should change to something like Arterial Strike 1000. While I know there's already one in the loyalty section, having one available on the open market works well for circumventing the loyalty coin cost some individuals may not have.

 

 

I'm torn on frag stashes. I understand why some may would want them, but with the way Global Events work and how well they're done, these would only be a wasted effort to a vast majority of those playing today. Now, if there were a way to put an "Instant Composing Level +5" item into a chest, that thing might would sell...

 

I saw the recommendation for a Reckoning 300 which sounds great, and I agree that it's hard coming up with other ideas on things because we don't want powercreep to get any worse than it already has. What would be the thoughts on a new buff specific to the chests here instead?

[BigGrim]

Cheers for the feedback everyone. I'll look into it when I return from holiday.

 

- Grim

[BigGrim]

All the potion ideas are driven toward PvE only. How about some PvP potion content as well?

Such as? Any particular requests?
 

This is the opportunity to add new potions of Immobilise Titan, Trendy.

Good call. I'll have to test em. Make sure the coding was actually completed.
 

Light Foot 1500. 60m. Yes, but maybe last longer, similar to global, or 120/180 so it's now as powerful. Most players that hunt chests/SE are on/off throughout the day, so be good to get real value.

Hmm. Don't really wanna step on the toes of the Global Potion.
 

Titan Doubler 300. 60m. I still think Teleport 200 would be more beneficial, or Titan Immobiliser. 

Not a fan of too high a teleport myself. Immobiliser however...
 

Also think a higher Distil would be good, somewhere between 200-300, and/or a higher level Stalker.

Not sure we really want a higher Distil in the game. Will have a look. Will look into Stalker.
 

Added to existing Crates? Or brand new ones? Maybe a bit of both, depends on how much you plan on adding to the game?

I want to add a lot of new stuff, whether Frag Stashes, potions or Quest items. May do a mix of the two options.
 

Quest Items. Used for inventing upgraded Epics? If so, likely one of due to rarity/scarcity? One per new Epic?

Probably one of the new item, at least one of the Epic and misc other odds and sods.

 

 

Will post more thoughts later. Gonna test Titan Immobiliser and Trendy. Make sure they work and will report back.

*Edit* Yup, those work correctly! Will have a think about levels. Any suggestions? Trendy probably needs to be pretty high, right?

Loyalty Stashes seem like a definite go, though they'll arrive a bit later. I'm pushing for sooner.

~ Grim

[WandKing]

All of it looks good including the TD 300, CA 300 and OK 1100.

 

A 60 minute TD 300 would allow enough time to clear  x3 titans for TKP (making the task less depressing) knowing another has already secured epic.

 

CA 300 useful to players that want to attack higher level SEs that spawn in their lower level areas. (Guild may have weak groups) 

 

OK 1100  (60 min). Nice option to the Sidds Poison (120 min) for players with lower stam banks.