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[EpicPiety]

Arena Tokens are a bad system. Only way to control supply is having items be won outright.

[BullsHead]

Arena tokens would have worked better if only the winner gets the tokens, a reward of 40 tokens puts 80 tokens into the game in the current system.

Also I will reiterate FSP shards instead of gold rewards...

 

Something I'd like to see unrelated to rewards is being able to edit your combat move sets, rather than having to delete and make new ones. Edit and overwrite.

[BigGrim]

shindrak said

So you will not look into current stamina rewards tourneys?
also what about removing/nerf  the guild restriction?

I quite clearly said this is a thread for item rewards. Sets and potions.

EpicPiety said

Adding rewards to be won outright opposed to in the shop for coins is paramount aswell. Need to be Win exclusive and not offered in token shop.

Not going back to that system, sorry. It was removed on purpose.

EpicPiety said

Also guild restriction is paramount guild counts are shrinking, arena moving slower. Arena is a solo activity.

I can ask but not promises.

~ Grim

[BigGrim]

werswet said

Upgrade 10-20 tokens useless arena potions.

I'll have a look at them and see how we could increase them and I will ask for feedback re: costs.

werswet said

What about , for example Distill 200 for 400 arena tokens ?

I will not add things that conflict with other events or sections of the game if I can at all avoid it.

werswet said

Or Inventor II 400 potion for 600 arena tokens ?

No chance. It's maxed at 250 for a reason, sorry.

werswet said

Epics at cost of 1500-2000 tokens ? I think this is the only way to free arena players from useless arena tokens and make arena tokens worth

Would epics be wanted? I'm not sure.

BullsHead said

Also I will reiterate FSP shards instead of gold rewards...

Don't see that ever happening, sorry.
 

BullsHead said

Something I'd like to see unrelated to rewards is being able to edit your combat move sets, rather than having to delete and make new ones. Edit and overwrite.

I can ask.

~ Grim

[werswet]

Hi BigGrim, first thanks for the answering forum posts,  currently have approx 30k arena tokens, there must be something  worth to purchase with this tokens, potion or item, that's why asked for high 400 token rewards. Or probably Epics on cost 1500-2000 tokens will help to burn tokens faster.

Edited by werswet, 10 June 2025 - 05:57.

[shindrak]

Epic item cost 2000 token which is like 100 dot and you have 30k token. well, I have triple that... and many of the players are hoarding tokens for sure

 

That will affect the value of other epics.

[werswet]

Ok, it's HCS Team decision, i only want to tell, it would be nice, if in this arena upgrade some valuable items/potions are added, no sense to accumulate tokens, there must be worth arena rewards and players use their tokens, not stocking tokens for nothing I am sure there are many players that have a lot of tokens on stock, this is the only way to free them from useless tokens  And there will be much more arena activity this way .

Edited by werswet, 10 June 2025 - 08:47.

[BullsHead]

I think Epic potions, or parts to invent epic potions, or parts to invent new epic gear, parts from arena, SE, the new chests that are coming out. Epics made from all areas of the game. Eventually the game will need +8 epics, but the only way I see there being +8 would be upgradable cow epics. They would need to be hard to get

[BigGrim]

So I've been looking at suggested potions and have the following:

 

Sure? 

 

All at 120 minutes? (Except Cloak)

 

Upgraded Enchant Pots - level 175 - 100 Tokens.

 

Librarian 450, Stalker 300, Animal Mag 400 - 500 Tokens.

 

Gloat 300 - 100 tokens.

 

Immobilize titan 200 - 150 tokens.

 

Super Elite Slayer 300 - 200 tokens?

 

Resource Finder 250 - `100 Tokens?

 

Cloak 50 - 50 Tokens.

 

Cloak 200 - 150 Tokens.

 

No:

 

Guild buffer 300 - Would invalidate “Emperor Hydra Egg”.

 

Overkill 1500 (No. Max at the moment is 1100 from Crates and an SE.) 

 

Any feedback? Additional suggestions?

 

Regarding gear, still not sure that epics would be wanted in the Arena.

 

For other gear, it appears to basically boil down to lots of new sets. Two and three piece.

 

Crystal? It would ensure it breaks and needs replaced eventually.

 

Thoughts and feedback?

 

~ Grim

[BullsHead]

BigGrim, on 13 Jun 2025 - 15:13, said:

So I've been looking at suggested potions and have the following:

 

Sure? 

 

All at 120 minutes?

 

Upgraded Enchant Pots - level 175 - 100 Tokens.

 

Librarian 450, Stalker 300, Animal Mag 400 - 500 Tokens.

 

Gloat 300 - 100 tokens.

 

Immobilize titan 200 - 150 tokens.

 

Super Elite Slayer 300 - 200 tokens?

 

Resource Finder 250 - `100 Tokens?

 

Cloak 50 - 50 Tokens.

 

Cloak 200 - 150 Tokens.

 

No:

 

Guild buffer 300 - Would invalidate “Emperor Hydra Egg”.

 

Overkill 1500 (No. Max at the moment is 1100 from Crates and an SE.) 

 

Any feedback? Additional suggestions?

 

Regarding gear, still not sure that epics would be wanted in the Arena.

 

For other gear, it appears to basically boil down to lots of new sets. Two and three piece.

 

Crystal? It would ensure it breaks and needs replaced eventually.

 

Thoughts and feedback?

 

~ Grim

 

Immobilise Titan is good, but IMO the chest one should be buffed (I used on invader and honestly it wasn't what I expected, the amount of 1 hit teleports I got was still pretty insane) and this one made the same, or close to what the current chest one is.

(Off topic, but Bad News Brew from chests needs to be buffed, it should be more powerful than an SE drop, chest potions should be the pinnacle as they're the hardest to come by)

 

Stalker would be great, but Lib 450 and AM 400 would be pointless I imagine, as everyone already has easy access to higher.

 

SES is great, would be a welcome addition

 

The others I have no opinion really, personally I'm happy with Cloak 30 from AH for 10k gold

 

There's arenas that require use of Epic items, so I see no problem with craftable Epics from arena, would give more reason for people to join, they should be accessible but not easy to make, similar to RP epics.

 

Crystal gear is fine as I imagine the majority would use them for Arena anyway. 

 

 

One question. Will you be looking at non item rewards in the future? Such as current/reserve stam and other items that you may get from a DQ reward, loyalty tokens etc

[kingkillz]

instead of stright upgrade to enchant potions, would you consider recipes to upgrade them. i've noticed a few asking for an upgrade to ZB so you could add another recipe in there for that to use the current ZB's 4/1 respectively and can even use the purple plants from the special auctions and often from the bazaar

Edited by kingkillz, 13 June 2025 - 17:53.

[drdoom123]

BigGrim, on 13 Jun 2025 - 15:13, said:

So I've been looking at suggested potions and have the following:
 
Cloak 50 - 50 Tokens.[/size]
 
Cloak 200 - 150 Tokens.[/size]

Thoughts and feedback?
 
~ Grim

I take it the cloaks will have different duration because levels mean nothing for cloak lvl 50 does the same as level 200

[Tilley10]

BigGrim, on 13 Jun 2025 - 15:13, said:

So I've been looking at suggested potions and have the following:

 

Sure? 

 

All at 120 minutes?

 

Upgraded Enchant Pots - level 175 - 100 Tokens.

 

Librarian 450, Stalker 300, Animal Mag 400 - 500 Tokens.

*AM 450

 

Gloat 300 - 100 tokens.

 

Immobilize titan 200 - 150 tokens.

 

Super Elite Slayer 300 - 200 tokens?

 

Resource Finder 250 - `100 Tokens?

 

Cloak 50 - 50 Tokens.

 

Cloak 200 - 150 Tokens.

 

No:

 

Guild buffer 300 - Would invalidate “Emperor Hydra Egg”.

 

Overkill 1500 (No. Max at the moment is 1100 from Crates and an SE.) 

 

Any feedback? Additional suggestions?

 

Regarding gear, still not sure that epics would be wanted in the Arena.

+8 epics please.

 

For other gear, it appears to basically boil down to lots of new sets. Two and three piece.

No three piece sets.

 

Crystal? It would ensure it breaks and needs replaced eventually.

Yes.

 

Thoughts and feedback?

 

~ Grim

And as always, move the guild restriction for arena. Thanks!

[shindrak]

BigGrim, on 13 Jun 2025 - 15:13, said:

So I've been looking at suggested potions and have the following:

 

Sure? 

 

All at 120 minutes?

 

 Immobilize titan 200 - 150 Tokens.
Good
 

 

Upgraded Enchant Pots - level 175 - 100 Tokens.
Not worth the 100 token keep them as they are or maybe make it 20 tokens and buff to 175.

 

Librarian 450, Stalker 300, Animal Mag 400 - 500 Tokens.

Those are available from composing at much cheaper price. and no one would use LIB450 lots of pots including LIB500+  AM450 at 200 token would be good.
 

Gloat 300 - 100 tokens.

Good

 

 

Super Elite Slayer 300 - 200 tokens?
No need to make SE hunting too easy
 

 

Resource Finder 250 - `100 Tokens?
Already available from other source. not needed
 

 

Cloak 50 - 50 Tokens.

 

Cloak 200 - 150 Tokens.

you know Cloak lv30 90 mins works the same for only 10k gold?
also available in ladder shop. not needed.
 

No:

 

Guild buffer 300 - Would invalidate “Emperor Hydra Egg”.
People will use both whichever available guild buffer 300 from Arena shop at correct price won't hurt could be at 150 token

Guild buffer 200 from egg cheaper and flooding the game worth less than 1 dot.

 

Edited by BigGrim, 16 June 2025 - 12:00.

[BigGrim]

drdoom123, on 13 Jun 2025 - 18:09, said:

I take it the cloaks will have different duration because levels mean nothing for cloak lvl 50 does the same as level 200

The Cloak buff description:

 

"Hides your Attack, Defense, Damage, Armor, HP and equipped items from other players for 3 minutes multiplied by the skill level"

 

The level of the buff dictates it's length.

 

~ Grim

[basti7]

Hiii,

 

sets:

yes crystalline and both types, recipe items and non-recipe items. As I said there are few sets with +stam gain and +stamina. Maybe more sets like that.

 

And you can recycle already existing sets in arena, just upgrade them for different levels. There are designs and sets like Bothild, Ignatius, Chumanas or Aellos which were good / still looking great. Maybe all existing arena sets could get an update in stats and new lvls (since epics and LE sets got better) 

 

buffs:

Super Elite Slayer not over lvl 200. Just a longer duration please, 90 minutes should be enough

suggestions: Spellbreaker/Spell Leech potion, Epic Craft/Epic Forge potion, Spectral Knight potion (there is only 1 in game and not that simple to make), and in AH are many buffs listed which do not exist, maybe a chance to create an arena potion exclusive?

 

epics:

I liked the idea with epic shards for a new epic, but not sure if its worth it since epics are already at maximum at eoc and you already said no to epic-sets long time ago

 

Long time idea (I know not everybody will like it):

Community-Arena-Event, spending tokens

-> with good rewards maybe a chance to "reset" tokens from game before update

Combine SE items and arena

-> more reason to hunt them and with low success recipes we can destroy a lot of SE items ingame

 

b7

[werswet]

With new Epics from arena rewards, Epic arenas would be much more interesting