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[Josh1404]

Im not advocating for removing his medal.. evidently you do not understand the issue at hand.

I am somewhat confident I do as a matter of fact. My point is that it has been earned fairly and should he choose to maintain his spot as many would it would be just as fair to do so. I wasn't accusing you of casting doubt over the medal credit he has earned thus far. That's even more ridiculous than what your actually proposing.

 

What I mean when I say this is dismissing his accomplishments is that if this were to be changed it simply is not being the best player. He has been. He is doing that because nobody else can match him. What your asking is for something to be handed to you because the fact is you simply can't compete. Why should this be at the expense of what he is achieving?

[UrcK]

Quests can only be turned in once .. Stam bank is forever ..

[UrcK]

I am somewhat confident I do as a matter of fact. My point is that it has been earned fairly and should he choose to maintain his spot as many would it would be just as fair to do so. I wasn't accusing you of casting doubt over the medal credit he has earned thus far. That's even more ridiculous than what your actually proposing.

 

What I mean when I say this is dismissing his accomplishments is that if this were to be changed it simply is not being the best player. He has been. He is doing that because nobody else can match him. What your asking is for something to be handed to you because the fact is you simply can't compete. Why should this be at the expense of what he is achieving?

then you are still confused .. because this was an issue when folks were just buying % upgrades to be number one .. and it was in the cows best interest to leave that as it was to make more money .. but the ethics behind it would have killed the game much faster.. now here we are again with the max stam loophole for #1 player.. it will be remedied as before for the good of the game

[EpicPiety]

Quests can only be turned in once .. Stam bank is forever ..

600k stamina can only be used once every 6 months. Before you mention the 1 fsp for 25 stam... That's not worth using outside of a 2x. LOL

Edited by EpicPiety, 31 October 2016 - 21:17.

[UrcK]

600k stamina can only be used once every 6 months

once every 6 months for eternity .... which even at 3x the release rate of current content would keep him at #1

[EpicPiety]

once every 6 months for eternity .... which even at 3x the release rate of current content would keep him at #1

Quests are also forever... They are always created. This has went round and round atleast 4 times already. I'll wait for BG to get a quick laugh and lock the thread. Will probably see another thread of this type around next 2x. As per usual.

Edited by EpicPiety, 31 October 2016 - 21:21.

[UrcK]

 You can excuse yourself from the conversation, thats fine with me .. but this isnt gonna go away because you think its a joke.

[Josh1404]

then you are still confused .. because this was an issue when folks were just buying % upgrades to be number one .. and it was in the cows best interest to leave that as it was to make more money .. but the ethics behind it would have killed the game much faster.. now here we are again with the max stam loophole for #1 player.. it will be remedied as before for the good of the game

I see them as different issues. Buying XP % to progress beyond EOC is just raw spend. Nobody would have done that as an alternative to levelling unless for that reason. That is just sheer spend to achieve a medal. That isn't earned at all. Our stamina bank's are different I think. We all rely on them for our gameplay in some way. If we get down a path of bigger stamina banks supposedly dominating one area then surely you have to question the competition aspect of every part of the game? Globals are dominated by much bigger stamina banks... Not fair because they bought those upgrades right? That is buying their places surely? Not fair to those who can't build a stamina bank like that?

 

He got his stamina bank fairly and he uses it how he likes to. If that makes it difficult for you to dominate this area why should he lose out for you?

 

But I digress. I can't be bothered to argue with you. I just hope when the cows read this thread they have no intention to pander to one guild's campaign. Singling one player out and deeming that because he has excelled it is unfair to you is in my opinion a rather poor argument. No doubt if it was you or a guildmate of yours who was sitting at #1 this thread would not exist.

 

Have an amazing week all. Enjoy work or school or whatever it may be. Or tolerate it well at least.

[UrcK]

I see them as different issues. Buying XP % to progress beyond EOC is just raw spend. Nobody would have done that as an alternative to levelling unless for that reason. That is just sheer spend to achieve a medal. That isn't earned at all. Our stamina bank's are different I think. We all rely on them for our gameplay in some way. If we get down a path of bigger stamina banks supposedly dominating one area then surely you have to question the competition aspect of every part of the game? Globals are dominated by much bigger stamina banks... Not fair because they bought those upgrades right? That is buying their places surely? Not fair to those who can't build a stamina bank like that?

 

He got his stamina bank fairly and he uses it how he likes to. If that makes it difficult for you to dominate this area why should he lose out for you?

 

But I digress. I can't be bothered to argue with you. I just hope when the cows read this thread they have no intention to pander to one guild's campaign. Singling one player out and deeming that because he has excelled it is unfair to you is in my opinion a rather poor argument. No doubt if it was you or a guildmate of yours who was sitting at #1 this thread would not exist.

 

Have an amazing week all. Enjoy work or school or whatever it may be. Or tolerate it well at least.

lol.. why do you think its for me .. NOONE will ever have #1 spot again as is .. unless they outspend him .. not only in stam bank but current stam to 'catch up' which means its only about the money again...

[UrcK]

tbh with just a personal opinion aside from the real issue which is the pay to win aspect of being #1  .. i dont think that the #1 spot should go to sumone who can and does go months without playing, how are you the best if you aint even playing...

[bigchaos]

It is not only first place as top player that this issue qualifies but this affects global events those with top stamina will always win top list. I have been reading a lot on forum back posts. I read how players are flustered because community cant hit ruby or not able too. The thing is this having the most stamina does not make you the best, The best would welcome challenges to ranking. I have played enough games that were considered pvp type games and ranked in top rankings in those games. 

 

I am not here to take sides or to slap a player just pointing out obvious. If we keep lists stagnate this is bad for community. Top lists show a pulse of the game to new players.  Put yourself in a new players shoes. If you are seeing players over 3000 level controlling all lists because you have most stamina, would you honestly stick around and play? 

 

As things stand an adjustment needs to be made like there was to guilds list when top guilds had the top list  stagnate with inactive guilds in top ranks or when we had top guilds dominating titan hunting to where small guilds were just out matched. 

 

Please do not make the issue personal because this hurts the game for all players.  I am not saying that you dummy the game down to make things simple to be in top rankings.   I will state top ranking should show competition to get there and being on top with no competition whether you are starting off or eoc is a boring aspect to any game. 

 

In short FS has growing pains and the game needs adjustments from time to time to be more productive and fun playing for future of the game and increasing player base to stay playing.  Again please help find ways to get game moving forward thanks. 

Edited by bigchaos, 31 October 2016 - 21:51.

[Pythia]

Would anyone consider an FS Hall of Fame?  

 

Could be coupled with a cool down period perhaps.

 

That might open things up for others.

[sweetlou]

This subject is EXACTLY why the "#1 Top Player" moniker is a misnomer! I get to laugh at the players who only grind out levels and have poured so much time/money into something that is nay attainable.

[Removed18058]

this topic is so full of salt it's unreal

[UrcK]

this topic is so full of salt it's unreal

I think this topic has the most merit and has stayed on topic for the most part with several facts and opinions being presented by multiple perspectives out of many to grace this forum in a very long time.

[Mister Doom]

Perhaps the medal would be more fitting if it worked like...

 

Rename the current Best Player medal to, 'Level Dominator'.

Create a 'new'  medal based on some top rated lists.

 

Level (overall top 250), Richest, kill streak, Bounty Hunter, Rising stars, Arena, SE kills and PvP smasher.

 

Call this one 'Best Player'.

 

So essentially at midnight ST the game would take a reading of these lists, if each list has a different leader, no BP medal tick for anyone.

If a player manages to become top of more than one, while no other player has, player gets BP medal tick.

There should never be 'joint' best players. So if Player A was top of two lists and then Player B become top of 2 other lists, no BP tick would be had until only one player dominated again.

 

 

 

I think this would be a more fitting solution to the 'term' best player. It would also make adding some more top rated lists have a little more point. Top Fragger (most fragmented items), Top inventor, Top DQ'er etc etc.

 

The more top lists for this system the better IMO. Make the best player truly need to be a jack of all trades and highly active.

[Egami]

@Doom #76 post. Yeah, has been suggested and led nowhere before.

 

The "easier solution" would simply be to correct the "misnomer" and make the rank reflect what it is.

 

Like "Level" says in the side bar. 

 

Personally, I'd switch "Level" to "XP". And "Top 250" to "Top 250 by XP". And finally, the headline where clicking on "Level" takes you to "Top 100 Players by XP for your month". 

 

Wouldn't require any medal or programming changes and would be truer to the name.

 

I agree with a new ranking system being setup and like your suggestion. I'll wait for HCS to ask for input on that though or (yet another) topic on the issue to be created.

 

But hey, this is a "#1 player discussion".

 

Only caveat in my eye to your post is the "at midnight ST". Again, would think about it more if HCS asked for input. Was thinking more like a per month thing when first reading and hitting the bottom part of the suggestion with Top DQer... Well, you get it.

[xxlooperxx]

So just curious.. If you're saying that boats should be stripped of #1 because nobody can pass him, shouldn't you also point out how placeboo has controlled the richest player for so long. Or Luis has controlled the top smasher for so long. Or how Luis has controlled top bounty hunter for a long time.

Sorry but I think if you get to #1 then you should get to stay at #1 as long as you didn't cheat.

Boats hasn't done anything more than ones I have mentioned above and deserves to stay there until someone passes him

[Mister Doom]

@Doom #76 post. Yeah, has been suggested and led nowhere before.

 

The "easier solution" would simply be to correct the "misnomer" and make the rank reflect what it is.

 

Like "Level" says in the side bar. 

 

Personally, I'd switch "Level" to "XP". And "Top 250" to "Top 250 by XP". And finally, the headline where clicking on "Level" takes you to "Top 100 Players by XP for your month". 

 

Wouldn't require any medal or programming changes and would be truer to the name.

 

I agree with a new ranking system being setup and like your suggestion. I'll wait for HCS to ask for input on that though or (yet another) topic on the issue to be created.

 

But hey, this is a "#1 player discussion".

 

Only caveat in my eye to your post is the "at midnight ST". Again, would think about it more if HCS asked for input. Was thinking more like a per month thing when first reading and hitting the bottom part of the suggestion with Top DQer... Well, you get it.

 

I know this has been suggested before, because I have suggested it before...

Monthly wouldn't make sense and wouldn't inspire activity, except a brief flurry towards the ends of months.

 

PS, spacing in your posts should have meaning and not be there simply to make posts longer. ¬_¬

Edited by Mister Doom, 01 November 2016 - 00:06.

[bigchaos]

Please read above posts and stay on topic. It is not about a single player being on top. It is about stagnant top lists. It is about improving game for everybody. 

 

I keep seeing same old crap about this player and that player but the fact is an enema could not get the top list moving unless you are set up with 999,999,999,999 stamina.  The ideas set forth in previous posting for adjusting top lists is good meaning restructure the top lists and take data to reflect top players.  I would support this but then again we have the argument I am not on the top lists. Then you would be right because I would never have a chance to be on top list competitively and have buy my way there.  Though that is not against the rules but it is not appealing for new players coming in seeing nothing but eoc players with obscene stamina banks in all top lists no matter the guild or the player.

 

I like to asked eoc players take a look at the game seriously and decide if you want stagnant lists that will not attract new players to the game.  I am not saying make lists easy nor am I asking to strip players who are on top their rankings.

 

I am asking for competition by using game statistics to restructure the lists like we did the guilds top list or as it has been suggested add a medal with a new list deal.  Personally I like to see posting not the nit picky flaming junk but get a real solution that we as a community and fs will agree with as a solution.  Thanks.   

Edited by bigchaos, 01 November 2016 - 00:12.