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#61 killafrog

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Posted 11 February 2014 - 05:21

bloody18, on 09 Feb 2014 - 03:44, said:

Or  a new chest such as a "Cursed Ancients Chest" where rather than buy a key to open it you have to attack it/ smash the chest.. And your attack intitiates  a battle vs a  random opponent who is locked inside the chest protecting the reward. You could smash the chest and face a level 1 creature  or level 1900 plus either way ... there is a random risk to get your reward.

 

Lots of ways you could play around with this ,such as:

1.If you are defeated the chest possibly disapears.( spawning in another location)

2.Allow group attacks.( make a guild achievment for chests opened as a group rather than  individual)

3.Allow the chest to be carried in ones back pack ( chest could be sold .. item bound? or not)

4.Provide a warning to an individual , warning them of possible XP/ levels lost etc if defeated. ( by random creature) Which could be massive .. say a level 300 smashes a chest and loses to say a level 1300 creature.

 

Cool idea bloody that is interesting  :ph34r:

I'd like to see a limit on the chest's hidden monster based on the area where you found it. To give people a chance at cracking it open even with possible risk of not being able to kill by yourself as creature could be 2-3x stronger then the area's lvl or measly lvl 1



#62 BigGrim

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Posted 11 February 2014 - 16:54

Leos3000, on 07 Feb 2014 - 18:32, said:

Stalker and overkill would be a better combination then necrosis.

A high level 4 leaf (350-400)with maybe find item (1250)would be nice.

Smashing hammer 300 and keen edge 300

Lib 300 and conserve 300

Inv1 and inv2 350

 

1. Maybe.

 

2. Possible.

 

3. SH and KE seem a touch high? Outside of Global Event potions anyway.

 

4. Librarian 300 already exists. It is available in the Arena.

    Conserve 250 is in the Arena too.

 

5. Possible.

 

MiniManiac, on 07 Feb 2014 - 18:50, said:

Possibly think of  another that covers GV300, AOP300, and Stout Heart 300.

 

I quite like that. Touch too powerful on the HP front perhaps? Though maybe for a crystal chest?

 

Davros81, on 07 Feb 2014 - 21:06, said:

A combo with golden shield and maybe high guard, level 250?

 

A Combo including either Armor Boost with Terrorize or shield wall with Flinch? Level 250 perhaps?

 

1. Works for me.

 

2. Both of those look decent. Maybe something I'd save for the PvP ladder potion list I'm construction though?

 

uncola, on 07 Feb 2014 - 22:49, said:

Merchant and Treasure Hunter 225 ( crystal key chest)

Deflect and Nightmare Visage 225 ( crystal key chest)

Super Elite Slayer and Counter Attack 200 (crystal key chest)

Vision 500 (crystal key chest)

 

1. We really don't need more gold coming into the game.

2. Not sure we need deflect potions and Nightmare Visage 200 is available in the Special Auction House. (Horrific Mask Brew) .

  

bglo, on 08 Feb 2014 - 01:03, said:

A good conserve/lightfoot combo would be good nice for titan hunting. maybe somewhere around 400/1000 for the skill levels.

 

Perhaps, though there is the more powerful Echinoderm Potion from the Seafarers Chest.

 

sweetlou, on 08 Feb 2014 - 23:46, said:

Why don't you guys add these types of potions to revitalize other aspects of the game as well?

 

I have a list for PvP and the Arena, as well as Chests. I want a new mechanic that will allow me to create Guild purchased potions (similar to RP packs). A few new lower level potions for Loyalty as well.

 

Chazz224, on 09 Feb 2014 - 22:12, said:

Other ideas for super rare buffs would be a sexy Brew Master say 350 or 400 would be nice - or you could apply a super Keen Edge buff same numbers or Dark curse - many would enjoy such

 

Again, Potion of the Brewers Art (Brewing Master 300) is available in the PvP Arena. I don't really wanna take away from the Arena.

 

justinian9, on 10 Feb 2014 - 07:13, said:

I would love to see new loyalty potions.  Potions that can only be bought using loyalty points like the chest potions.  I only use a few of the loyalty pots and my points keep climbing.

 

Like what? What would you like to see added to loyalty?

 

 

Various ideas here. These are the ones that caught my eye. Not looking at new buffs yet though I will bear them in mind for the future.

 

So, what do people think of my responses? Right? Wrong? In either case, please state why. A flat 'You're wrong.' by itself is pretty useless.

 

If we can get a few other ideas from here to join the ones in my opening post, I reckon we can add these to existing chests in the next day or two!



#63 Chazz224

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Posted 11 February 2014 - 17:30

BigGrim, on 11 Feb 2014 - 16:54, said:

 

Grim - How about other suggested ideas :

 

Sneak Attack - consumes on use allowing you to attack a player twice in the same hr.

 

eg I attack someone i hit and win or lose or deflected - I pop Sneak Attack and I can hit again after 1 minute?

 

Jewel Heist - 100% chance to Master Thief + Thievery to kick

 

Any chance on those two buffs or no chance?


Edited by Chazz224, 11 February 2014 - 17:31.


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Posted 12 February 2014 - 00:26

BigGrim, on 11 Feb 2014 - 16:54, said:

 


Leos3000, on 07 Feb 2014 - 13:32, said:snapback.png

 


Stalker and overkill would be a better combination then necrosis.

A high level 4 leaf (350-400)with maybe find item (1250)would be nice.

Smashing hammer 300 and keen edge 300

Lib 300 and conserve 300

Inv1 and inv2 350

1. Maybe.

 

2. Possible.

 

3. SH and KE seem a touch high? Outside of Global Event potions anyway. I think we just got a quest 1 time potion that was around the 300-350 level so thought something along those lines in a chest would be nice.

 

4. Librarian 300 already exists. It is available in the Arena.

    Conserve 250 is in the Arena too.

 

5. Possible.

 

MiniManiac, on 07 Feb 2014 - 13:50, said:snapback.png

 


Possibly think of  another that covers GV300, AOP300, and Stout Heart 300.

I quite like that. Touch too powerful on the HP front perhaps? Though maybe for a crystal chest?

This would be a pot that is useless to 95% or more of FS as it only affects level up points and almost everyone has them in either all damage or some damage and attack.

 

Davros81, on 07 Feb 2014 - 16:06, said:snapback.png

 


A combo with golden shield and maybe high guard, level 250? Might be better as a pvp ladder potion as grim said

 

A Combo including either Armor Boost with Terrorize or shield wall with Flinch? Level 250 perhaps?

1. Works for me.

 

2. Both of those look decent. Maybe something I'd save for the PvP ladder potion list I'm construction though?

 

uncola, on 07 Feb 2014 - 17:49, said:snapback.png

uncola, on 07 Feb 2014 - 22:49, said:

Merchant and Treasure Hunter 225 ( crystal key chest)

Deflect and Nightmare Visage 225 ( crystal key chest)

Super Elite Slayer and Counter Attack 200 (crystal key chest)

Vision 500 (crystal key chest)

 

1. We really don't need more gold coming into the game.

2. Not sure we need deflect potions and Nightmare Visage 200 is available in the Special Auction House. (Horrific Mask Brew) . A Super Elite and CA combination could be a decent potion

  

bglo, on 07 Feb 2014 - 20:03, said:snapback.png

 


A good conserve/lightfoot combo would be good nice for titan hunting. maybe somewhere around 400/1000 for the skill levels.

Perhaps, though there is the more powerful Echinoderm Potion from the Seafarers Chest.

 

sweetlou, on 08 Feb 2014 - 18:46, said:snapback.png

 


Why don't you guys add these types of potions to revitalize other aspects of the game as well?

I have a list for PvP and the Arena, as well as Chests. I want a new mechanic that will allow me to create Guild purchased potions (similar to RP packs). A few new lower level potions for Loyalty as well.

 

Chazz224, on 09 Feb 2014 - 17:12, said:snapback.png

Chazz224, on 09 Feb 2014 - 22:12, said:

Other ideas for super rare buffs would be a sexy Brew Master say 350 or 400 would be nice - or you could apply a super Keen Edge buff same numbers or Dark curse - many would enjoy such

 

Again, Potion of the Brewers Art (Brewing Master 300) is available in the PvP Arena. I don't really wanna take away from the Arena.

 

justinian9, on 10 Feb 2014 - 02:13, said:snapback.png

justinian9, on 10 Feb 2014 - 07:13, said:

I would love to see new loyalty potions.  Potions that can only be bought using loyalty points like the chest potions.  I only use a few of the loyalty pots and my points keep climbing.

 

Like what? What would you like to see added to loyalty?

 

 

Various ideas here. These are the ones that caught my eye. Not looking at new buffs yet though I will bear them in mind for the future.

 

So, what do people think of my responses? Right? Wrong? In either case, please state why. A flat 'You're wrong.' by itself is pretty useless.

 

If we can get a few other ideas from here to join the ones in my opening post, I reckon we can add these to existing chests in the next day or two!

 

 

A few other idea's for pots would be:

 

Demoralize 300 and Advert Gaze 300

 

Shield Wall 250 Constitution 350

 

Quest Finder 400 (just like the genius potion for Resource Finder)

 

Epic Forge 250 Epic Craft 250 (Potion of Epic proportions)

 

 

A few suggestions for these new chests:

 

1. Keep the potions to chests from Bronze to Gold keys

Reason: This keeps potions at a reasonable cost for the whole community 2-27 fsp Potions are a 1 time use for a limited time and if the cost gets to great to get them it will be a nice luxury to some, but ignored by most.

 

2.Add new item sets to the Gold and Crystal keys

Reason: If they are sets and useful people are more willing to spend the tokens or gold on them as they will be used more then once and are easier to justify the cost on.



#65 yodamus

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Posted 12 February 2014 - 16:02

i made slight mistake in my idea for chest finding..i think something like a timer should be put on the chests...if not found within 24-72 hours...somewhere in that time frame..its location- meaning its WORLD MAP area should be given...not realm like i said earlier....each world map has many areas to hunt...to me this would provide a nice chest hunting aspect to the game...lots of stamina being used..lots of players hunting a world map for a chest- find it first - hooray..if not wait for the next one to have its location given...this to me would be the only way any player would ever be able to get their chest medals- WITHOUT HAVING TO PAY FOR THEM...buying a medal is disgusting and defeats the purpose...hunt for your chests...it would also help those at eoc that are bored with tons of stamina...i agree that most potions should be in the bronze-silver key chests...gear or super good potions in the gold-crystal key chests...make it worht the cost for a key...i still think prizes in chests should be random- no one should ever know what is inside a chest..



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Posted 12 February 2014 - 19:27

yodamus, on 12 Feb 2014 - 16:02, said:

i still think prizes in chests should be random- no one should ever know what is inside a chest..

 

Truly random ? - not so sure - would you like to use a crystal key and get, for instance, a "pick axe" (bad example, I know)

 

But, a random item from a predetermined list of possible items for each given chest ? - sure, love that. OK, over time, the contents of each chest would get known again, but there'd still be no guarantee of getting the actual item you wanted ..


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Posted 12 February 2014 - 21:39

Pardoux, on 12 Feb 2014 - 19:27, said:

Truly random ? - not so sure - would you like to use a crystal key and get, for instance, a "pick axe" (bad example, I know)

 

But, a random item from a predetermined list of possible items for each given chest ? - sure, love that. OK, over time, the contents of each chest would get known again, but there'd still be no guarantee of getting the actual item you wanted ..

yes..this is what i meant..random item from list of predetermined items that could be found inside chests..should always have to wonder which prize is inside...list should have quite a number of potions,gear,frags, whatever else could be put inside..but all great prizes..chests should be a great find



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Posted 13 February 2014 - 14:38

justinian9, on 10 Feb 2014 - 02:13, said:snapback.png

justinian9, on 10 Feb 2014 - 01:13, said:snapback.png

justinian9, on 10 Feb 2014 - 07:13, said:

I would love to see new loyalty potions.  Potions that can only be bought using loyalty points like the chest potions.  I only use a few of the loyalty pots and my points keep climbing.

 

Just a few ideas on Loyalty potions, I think these pots would please PvP and hunting players needs/ wants:


Fortify 250 120 min
Rock Skin 250 120 min
AOP 250 120 min
Great Vigor 250 120 min

Cost ???? LP

Epic Forge 300 180 min
Epic Craft  300 180 min
Cost  ??? LP

Armor Boost 250 120 min
Cost ??? LP

Necrosis 250 120 min
HF 250 120 min
Cost ??? LP

Death Wish 500 120 min
Cost ??? LP

EW 500 120 min
Cost ??? LP


To help lower level players I was thinking about the following pot. Cost should be low LP so newer players have the points to buy it


Double XP, time limit 15 minutes,

can only be used with doubler 750 or 500 and lower, ZB does not work on this potion, Brew Master 175 or lower can work with this potion.  This should keep it from being usable by high stamina upper level players…
 



#69 Leos3000

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Posted 14 February 2014 - 15:21

I see all those cool pots sitting there ready to be released. Did you make a decision on which buffs will be in them and if the new chests will be out before the weekend?

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Posted 14 February 2014 - 20:42

Afraid not. Was off for two days due to unexpected personal issues. I'll look to get em in early next week.



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Posted 16 February 2014 - 19:11

yodamus, on 12 Feb 2014 - 16:02, said:

i think something like a timer should be put on the chests...if not found within 24-72 hours...somewhere in that time frame..its location- meaning its WORLD MAP area should be given

 

Might work - not sure how many people would really get into the treasure hunt though.

 

More generally, do the chests respawn after a time, or do they just wait to be found? My guess is they just hang around, and that might be why people think they spawn so rarely. I managed to find 5 chests just doing normal hunting, but through levels in which I hardly ever saw anybody, and this was while I was 200-100 levels off EOC, so I suspect there were a number of chests hanging around for a long time for me to come through. Having them respawn every couple of days (weighting the choice of realm by the number of people in them) might give a more even distribution of chest finds.


Edited by rowbeth, 16 February 2014 - 19:12.


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Posted 16 February 2014 - 22:53

IMO, the game has to many AL , LIB leveling buffs. As well as damage boosting buffs, leveling is way to easy as is.........

 

Id like to see some pots that affect other sections of the game. ie :

deflect / anti deflect 200-250

super e slayer 200

pvp buffs with long duration



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Posted 18 February 2014 - 18:21

are chest improvements coming out this week...hopefully do something so more chests can be found..my times idea needs to be looked at..year 2314 before i get diamond medal..my guild founder year 3514..other year 5000 +..will the earth still be around then ? some say you could buy locations for medal....that is disgusting,, buying a medal...wooooopeee



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Posted 19 February 2014 - 12:33

I like the suggested potion additions to chests Grim - I really like the fact that everything suggested is consumable, and decently powered.  Chest finds are pretty rare - treasures inside should reflect this. 



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Posted 19 February 2014 - 17:44

Hope to get these input tomorrow. Friday at latest.



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Posted 19 February 2014 - 18:19

BigGrim, on 19 Feb 2014 - 17:44, said:

Hope to get these input tomorrow. Friday at latest.

coool..keep up the hard work..i know i am hard on you guys sometimes,,but you do a great job for what seems like only 2 people working on fs




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