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[asterxemil]

This was when Epic become modern day and GvG a daily accomplishment

[avvakum]

BTW, I wonder how big a part of their customer base (meaning paying customers) are PvPers and how many of them would quit (and cause financial loss to HCS).

the customer base has been built up on these rules, and PvP scheme was like this forever, I don't play Sigmastorm2 because I don't like it, want downgrade FS to Sigmastorm2 level? I will definitely leave the game, it's easy to compare my donations to FS and Sigmastorm2.. Somebody here mentioned that many last updates have been focused on making life easier for pvp'ers, and now look at this stat... :wink:

Since then many small updates have taken place for many features of the game, your link of causality is VERY weak.

it doesn't show many people leaving though

[Khanate]

the customer base has been built up on these rules, and PvP scheme was like this forever, I don't play Sigmastorm2 because I don't like it, want downgrade FS to Sigmastorm2 level? I will definitely leave the game, it's easy to compare my donations to FS and Sigmastorm2.. Somebody here mentioned that many last updates have been focused on making life easier for pvp'ers, and now look at this stat... :wink:

Since then many small updates have taken place for many features of the game, your link of causality is VERY weak.

it doesn't show many people leaving though

A game that is steadily improving (like with the many latest tweaks) is bound to get more player retention. To claim that an improved search algorithm is responsible for this as opposed to the sum of 30-40 small but noticeable changes is at best a laughable notion.

[asterxemil]

Also recruitment rewards, as little as those were and still are, = # of players go ^

[Khanate]

Also recruitment rewards, as little as those were and still are, = # of players go ^

The number of players in the game declined pretty much continuously for 2 years despite recruitment rewards.

[avvakum]

A game that is steadily improving (like with the many latest tweaks) is bound to get more player retention. To claim that an improved search algorithm is responsible for this as opposed to the sum of 30-40 small but noticeable changes is at best a laughable notion.

did I say "improved search algorithm is responsible for this"? :shock: I said:" Somebody here mentioned that many last updates have been focused on making life easier for pvp'ers" <-- go over this thread or probably some other recent threads and find that whinner who complained about many updates over last months focused on helping pvp'ers..

[asterxemil]

Also recruitment rewards, as little as those were and still are, = # of players go ^

The number of players in the game declined pretty much continuously for 2 years despite recruitment rewards.

During the above timespan, not 2 yrs

[avvakum]

Also recruitment rewards, as little as those were and still are, = # of players go ^

the number is growing despite open pvp, and that's important.. anti-pvp'ers can't prove that people are leaving because of pvp attacks...

[Khanate]

Also recruitment rewards, as little as those were and still are, = # of players go ^

the number is growing despite open pvp, and that's important.. anti-pvp'ers can't prove that people are leaving because of pvp attacks...

Weaksauce argument. The issue discussed in this thread has always been with the FSH feature which isn't widespread across the game and even less in the lower level range.

And I've always been for the improved search engine as implemented by HCS.

[avvakum]

Also recruitment rewards, as little as those were and still are, = # of players go ^

the number is growing despite open pvp, and that's important.. anti-pvp'ers can't prove that people are leaving because of pvp attacks...

Weaksauce argument. The issue discussed in this thread has always been with the FSH feature which isn't widespread across the game and even less in the lower level range.

And I've always been for the improved search engine as implemented by HCS.

I don't use FSH at all, it's automation even though HCS allows it ..

[Khanate]

the number is growing despite open pvp, and that's important.. anti-pvp'ers can't prove that people are leaving because of pvp attacks...

Weaksauce argument. The issue discussed in this thread has always been with the FSH feature which isn't widespread across the game and even less in the lower level range.

And I've always been for the improved search engine as implemented by HCS.

I don't use FSH at all, it's automation even though HCS allows it ..

I'm really not following where this discussion comes from and is headed then?

People aren't leaving more than before because of pvp attacks, but it's not related to the improved search algorithm which is so far the only pvp related change that has been implemented lately?

[avvakum]

I'm really not following where this discussion comes from and is headed then?

People aren't leaving more than before because of pvp attacks, but it's not related to the improved search algorithm which is so far the only pvp related change that has been implemented lately?

I can't find that message, but it was about "everything is going pvp'ers way - less xp loss on BB, something else.. and now this change (improved search algorithm ), so levelers are all leaving"..

[Khanate]

I'm really not following where this discussion comes from and is headed then?

People aren't leaving more than before because of pvp attacks, but it's not related to the improved search algorithm which is so far the only pvp related change that has been implemented lately?

I can't find that message, but it was about "everything is going pvp'ers way - less xp loss on BB, something else.. and now this change (improved search algorithm ), so levelers are all leaving"..

Oh, then I agree, that's a stupid comment

[asterxemil]

it is. i'm a leveller i'm still here

[avvakum]

This is just ending up like every other PvP thread ever had here... levelers come in, puts something over their eyes and ears, and just go with what they want, claiming it to be for the good of all, without having the slightest idea of which they speak, and without showing enough respect for those involved, to actually bother trying to understand.

Sure... and PvPers* come in, put something over their eyes and ears, just go with what they want, claim that anything else would kill the game, assume that the levellers don't have the slightest idea about the topic (which is quite often far from true - and which also covers your next bit about not showing enough respect for those involved...). PvPers assume that since they do PvP, they're the only ones whose voice matters, but they forget that the players they attack take a big part in the PvP, even if it's against their will - so why the heck shouldn't they be allowed to have a word in it, too?

So, absolutely no reasons to assume that, coyotik? :arrow:

Second; Potion- Generate a potion that has a probability of "Conserve" for PvP hits, meaning that attacks have +0.0X% to take no stamina, buff named 'Assassinate'

Conserve works in pvp, but it doesnt show itself in battle(doesnt work in gvg though) when conserve activates, no xp is taken

Really? I've never heard of Conserve being used in PvP, let alone ever seen it on anyone who attacked me

a difference between knowing and experiencing things? I am sure you know that movie, but try to get idea from that text:

"So, if I asked you (Will Hunting) about art, you'd probably give me the skinny on every art book ever written. Michel Angelo, you know a lot about him, life's work, political aspirations, him and the Pope, sexual orientation, the whole works, right? But I bet you can't tell me what it smells like in the Sistine Chapel. You've never actually stood there and looked up at that beautiful ceiling. Seen that...? If I ask you about women, you'd probably give me a syllabus of your personal favorites. You may have even been laid a few times. But you can't tell me what it feels like to wake up next to a woman and feel truly happy. You're a tough kid. I ask you about war, you'd probably throw Shakespeare at me, right? 'Once more into the breach, dear friends.' But you've never been near one. You've never held your best friend's head in your lap, and watched him gasp his last breath looking to you for help. I ask you about love, you'd probably quote me a sonnet. But you've never looked at a woman and been totally vulnerable...known someone that could level you with her eyes. Feeling like God put an angel on earth just for you… who could rescue you from the depths of Hell. And you wouldn't know what it's like to be her angel, and to have that love for her be there forever. Through anything, through cancer. And you wouldn't know about sleeping sitting up in a hospital room for two months, holding her hand because the doctors could see in your eyes that the terms visiting hours don't apply to you. You don't know about real loss, because that only occurs when you love something more than you love yourself. I doubt you've ever dared to love anybody that much. I look at you; I don't see an intelligent, confident man. "

[Dowster]

I've always done both pvp and levelling, and to be honest it's as simple as sometimes you gain levels and gold, and sometimes you lose them

If you were playing snakes and ladders would you want a custom made board that had all the snakes removed because going down them spolied your enjoyment of going forward? or if you were playing football would you step aside and let the guy from the other team run the length of the field and score because tackling him would be mean and spoiling his fun?? I doubt it, games are supposed to be a challenge. Why does it always have to be about easy gain with no risk of loss for so many people? if you don't want real people from the real world making your progress in the game more difficult then why play an online game at all. The reason that most people play online is for interaction with others and for some healthy competition. Walking around on maps and obliterating pathetically easy critters may be the idea of fun for some people, but there doesn't really need to be so much hostility towards other who are trying to knock you back a few places on the playing field..

Honestly, if anyone playing FS is unable to gain levels faster then they lose them, then there is obviously an issue they need to address with whoever is attacking them, and sustained attacks of that amount on one player would been seen as harrassment by HCS and it does get dealt with if reported.

A little bit of diplomacy goes a long way, while complaining like a spolied child will only ever make things worse. But since you apparantly don't care anyway, everyone should be happy

[shokolo]

Victimize the Levelers: thieves and bullies rule!

Does the OP keeps changing it or Forn is bored again?

[Snowy900]

So, getting back to the original point of this thread:

Take a look at Warrior Kings website. They think they can shut me up using threats. Not going to happen: exactly the reverse in face. Only HC has the right to moderate the forums. But if anything proves my point, and proves that the powers-that-be (but not everyone) at WK are bullies who use PvP to intimidate people in an attempt to dominate every aspect of the game, this does.

Will I be 100-stammed again for pointing this out? Probably. Do I care ? Not enough to not post.

Will they once again hold a vote on whether to harass my entire little guild with 100-stam hits ? Who knows. The vote failed last time, but they DID consider it, and vote on it.

People used to bitch about FFS dominating titan hunting, but at least FFS' titan monopoly was not INTENDED to interfere with people's enjoyment of other aspects of the game.

we dont bully anyone,, we play the game our way within the rules of Fallensword, there are plenty of guilds who do this too.
I would like to know what right you have slagging a guild off in the forums, do you think of yourself as better than everyone else?