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#81 Brice

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Posted 17 April 2014 - 03:11

Ok!!! So this is how I in vision a 72 Hour ARENA SMACK DOWN TOURNEY going down :D

1st. The Arena tourney will be broken up in to ladders..just like the PvP ladder..except it will break down like this:
Lvl 10 to 49
Lvl 50 to 99
Lvl 100 to 149
Lvl 150 to 200 then from here 100 lvl increments
Lvl 200 to 300
Lvl 300 to 400 and so on and so forth up to lvl 1000

2nd. There will be a 24 hour window for players to enter into the tournament prior to it kicking off( allowing time for the brackets to fill up)
Then each player is allowed to enter only 2 brackets for each 24 hour interval(once you choose there's no turning back...choose wisely my friends for you won't know where the Arena elites are going to be...LOL) THE TOP 3 PLAYERS IN EACH BRACKET AFTER THE FIRST 24 HOURS MUST CHOOSE ANOTHER BRACKET....the rest of the players can choose to stay in that bracket or move to another, and yes I see some brackets being more crowded than others but you won't know until it starts!!
3rd. Each bracket must have at least oh I don't know let's say 20 players and have a cap of 60 players...if a bracket doesn't get the required amount of players then that bracket is nullified and players must choose another. So basically there will be three 24 hour intervals during the tourney.
4th. Each player will receive 1 automatic point for just entering an Arena, in which, after so many entries you qualify for some kind of minimum prize(kind of like the global quest) additional points will be acquired depending on where you place in each Arena that is activated.
5th. There will be a minimum of 12 Arenas per hour with a cap of 24 per hour and will have the even amount of combat move Arenas and non-combat move Arenas(this way players with no combat moves can still win)
6th prizes will be handed out to the top 5 players in each bracket after the 72hour event, and a very special prize will be handed out to the top overall 5 players :D

This sounds kick butt to me, but I might be a little crazy too...LMAO!!!

Edited by Brice, 17 April 2014 - 03:18.


#82 BraveKath

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Posted 17 April 2014 - 03:33

:P  Brice - I can just hear the enthusiasm when I read your above post about the 72 Hr Tourney.  I hope it happens.  I hope it's a huge success.

With the limits on the # of battles one can enter and with limited players and particularly arena players, I do wonder if 20 as a minimum might be a bit high?  Seems like little harm in it being lower, but that's just my gut reaction.  I do apologize if that's been debated previously and I didn't see that, thus speaking from ignorance.  I hate to see people frustrated over a small thing ... just more action the merrier :)



#83 bloody18

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Posted 17 April 2014 - 03:52

Maybe this will get the COWS attention ...OVER HERE BOYS! 

SHAKE IT Shhh ShsSh - SHAKE UP THE ARENA! =)

 

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#84 Brice

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Posted 17 April 2014 - 04:04

Bloody...I'm laughing so damn hard I'm crying dude xD

#85 goolsby7

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Posted 17 April 2014 - 04:08

i got halfway through page two, but i wanted to say something about slow arena. Why not ad a time limit to it? like, ever X hours a particular arena is up, it goes down by 2 untaken slots, until its an odd number. at that point it would stop and  just have to wait for that one person. this would aslo eventually rid the arena of unwanted matches that no one joins


Maybe this will get the COWS attention ...OVER HERE BOYS! 

SHAKE IT Shhh ShsSh - SHAKE UP THE ARENA! =)

 

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i.. i don t know if i should laugh or lose my eyesight XD


Edited by goolsby7, 17 April 2014 - 04:07.

Gold / Kill peaks at about Level 310 or so - and then drops again twice - once at 1601 (from average 300g / kill with no doubler/mer/th to 250g / kill) and then again at at 1626 (down another 50g / kill to an average of 200g / kill)

 


#86 bloody18

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Posted 17 April 2014 - 04:14

Bloody...I'm laughing so damn hard I'm crying dude xD

She's a private prancer :) lol



#87 Tastria

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Posted 17 April 2014 - 04:24

Maybe this will get the COWS attention ...OVER HERE BOYS! 

SHAKE IT Shhh ShsSh - SHAKE UP THE ARENA! =)

 

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   I forgot what I was going to say :o   I was so busy sending this to every Dairy Association in the North Eastern US......

PS, I like the arena idea.



#88 BraveKath

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Posted 17 April 2014 - 04:45

Oh Bloody, you twisted, twisted funny dude.  But now the Cows can't work, as 1st they'll be laughing, then they'll be in therapy.  

Good grief I can't turn away -- it's like a horrible accident in slow motion LOL!  :D  :lol:



#89 ludwigo

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Posted 17 April 2014 - 08:29


3. Create grouped arena tournaments based on arena wins so new players can have a chance to compete against players with similar arena experience. There will be five tabs, while the 'PvP Moves' tab will be removed:

 

Group I - Arena Wins 1-49, players with 50 or more wins cannot enter

Group II - Arena Wins 1-99, players with 100 or more wins cannot enter

Group III - Arena Wins 1-249, players with 250 or more wins cannot enter

Group IV - Arena Wins 1-499, players with 500 or more wins cannot enter

Group V - Free for All, all players can participate regardless of number of arena wins

 

The groups/arena wins listed may need tweaking, but the idea is there.

 

Can agree with everything but not with step 3 ........If this system will be setup I would like to see how many available arenas will be in every range ?????

 

actually if we have 80arenas available at same time if you split between 5 groups each group will have less than 20 available arena from this arena some will be over your level so if you have for a sample 500+ win and 80% of arenas will be our of your level range you will be to able enter 4-5 arenas per day and you need to wait much more longer .For me not positive and climbing in ladder can stop . I think this will demotivate me a lot and maybe not only me .Dont know exactly the lowest level player who has 500+ wins but if he is lvl 100 or under for him this system will be totally disaster . I can agree with this system if there will be 80 arenas for players under 500wins and 80arenas for players which have 500+ wins .than i can agree



#90 Maj

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Posted 17 April 2014 - 10:20

Can agree with everything but not with step 3 ........If this system will be setup I would like to see how many available arenas will be in every range ?????

 

actually if we have 80arenas available at same time if you split between 5 groups each group will have less than 20 available arena from this arena some will be over your level so if you have for a sample 500+ win and 80% of arenas will be our of your level range you will be to able enter 4-5 arenas per day and you need to wait much more longer .For me not positive and climbing in ladder can stop . I think this will demotivate me a lot and maybe not only me .Dont know exactly the lowest level player who has 500+ wins but if he is lvl 100 or under for him this system will be totally disaster . I can agree with this system if there will be 80 arenas for players under 500wins and 80arenas for players which have 500+ wins .than i can agree

 

There are several options I can think of right now:

 

- We can cut down the number of groups from 5 to 4 or 3 (maybe eliminating the 1-499 group). Again, the number of groups and arena win range may be tweaked.

 

- Set the number of arenas per group to 20 at a time.

 

- I forgot to mention that the value of prizes increase as you compete in the higher groups, with the Free for All group having the highest value prizes. So I can foresee that most activity will be in Free for All. Also, Free for All functions like the existing 'All' tab.

 

- A level 100 player with 500 arena wins can join the Free for All group the same way he currently does in the existing system. The Free for All group is the same as the current system ('All' tab).


Edited by Maj, 17 April 2014 - 10:30.


#91 ludwigo

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Posted 17 April 2014 - 10:45

There are several options I can think of right now:

 

- We can cut down the number of groups from 5 to 4 or 3 (maybe eliminating the 1-499 group). Again, the number of groups and arena win range may be tweaked.

 

- Set the number of arenas per group to 20 at a time.

 

- I forgot to mention that the value of prizes increase as you compete in the higher groups, with the Free for All group having the highest value prizes. So I can foresee that most activity will be in Free for All. Also, Free for All functions like the existing 'All' tab.

 

- A level 100 player with 500 arena wins can join the Free for All group the same way he currently does in the existing system. The Free for All group is the same as the current system ('All' tab).

it will be not same as you said cos lvl 100 player with 500 wins has much more higher chance that arena within his lvl range will appear from 80arenas than later from 20 ........as you suggest same by me cos it can simply happend that even i am player with lvl fast 800 most of arenas will  be 900+ from those 20 in Free for all . Actually arena level creation is random if it could be like 5 arenas for gear lvl 500-600 5arenas 600-700 5 arenas 1-100 etc for free for all it could be fine but for those who are lvl 100 , 200 , 300 and have 500+ wins chance to play arenas will drop to 0 if random creation will be 500+ all 20 arenas ......most of available arenas should be in free for all i think and there should be some newbie section for players under 200 wins lets say with arena lvl range 1-300 (most of newbies doesnt have higher level and if they have they can use lower gear)



#92 Command101

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Posted 17 April 2014 - 19:51

don't be forgetting 5-9 levels brice :D


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#93 j3k

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Posted 21 April 2014 - 00:12

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#94 Brinmoth

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Posted 22 April 2014 - 06:35

Maybe this will get the COWS attention ...OVER HERE BOYS! 

SHAKE IT Shhh ShsSh - SHAKE UP THE ARENA! =)

 

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Now, if she does it like this...Will you do it like that?
Now, if she touches like this...Will you touch her right back?
Now, if she moves like this...Will you move it like that?

 

Come on!!!

 

Shake, shake, shake, shake, shake it!!!
 


Edited by Brinmoth, 22 April 2014 - 06:36.


#95 Command101

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Posted 23 April 2014 - 20:15

Keep it like it is now, but "knock" up players after "x" amount of wins, lower win players have the choice to join higher ranked ones ofc.


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#96 weah

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Posted 25 April 2014 - 11:27

why a great winner like Nagoyaka dont wana tell anything about this? when you lose 99% of the important battles like hapend when fighting with this user in finals you will think twice if you want or dont want to be envolved in arena. i like arena but i dislike cheaters. and one more questions, its ok to put a friend to fight with you in first round just like 

Malphas180 vs. ed2212 Malphas180

 happend all day long?



#97 Command101

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Posted 25 April 2014 - 18:16

why a great winner like Nagoyaka dont wana tell anything about this? when you lose 99% of the important battles like hapend when fighting with this user in finals you will think twice if you want or dont want to be envolved in arena. i like arena but i dislike cheaters. and one more questions, its ok to put a friend to fight with you in first round just like 

Malphas180 vs. ed2212 Malphas180

 happend all day long?

You can't cheat in the arena, it is all explained by statistics and rules. I have beaten Nagoyaka tons of times, and they have done the same to me.


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#98 BraveKath

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Posted 25 April 2014 - 20:15

Cheating & Arena

In response to Command14's post ..... I do beg to differ that unfortunately you can cheat a bit in arena.  I have had a couple people approach me asking me to not change my gear and enter a specific arena, and to not change gear so that I would be an auto-loss (it wasn't a match for the specified arena.  One person told me that they were going around and asking several people.  Of course they can't control all the players in the arena, but they can improve the odds.

 

Their justifications: first person wanted to finish off their 1st 100 arena wins; and the other wanted the item from the arena for some planned inventing project.

I didn't help these two players out - I'm too competitive for it for one thing.  I can handle loosing, but I can't stand not trying.  Also I'm nice & helpful, but not enough to compromise my values.

This all being said, it's my opinion that arena is the hardest area of the game in which to cheat, thus it's my hope that it's very limited in scope. 

 



#99 yodamus

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Posted 25 April 2014 - 20:23

You can't cheat in the arena, it is all explained by statistics and rules. I have beaten Nagoyaka tons of times, and they have done the same to me.

sorry..but you are wrong..when someone gets a friend to enter right after they do, everytime, naked and well out of level range for easy wins, i consider that cheating..and when someone is able to sign up for every single arena out there, 1st to sign in 95% of the time- sleep has to occur, and i have seen many many times that a person not online signing in- how does that happen ???..something is not right..how someone wins is not cheating..yes i have beaten said person quite a few times..lost 95% of the time..but that does not bother me...been able to sign into every arena or having naked friends join arena for easy wins, that is different, and yes that bothers me....and smells really bad..no wonder nobody new wishes to try arena..easy fix to one problem- make the matchups random..i think all arena players wish for that to be true..random matches..not 1 vs 2, 3 vs 4 and so on as it is now..promotes bad things..easy fix that should have been done long long time ago


Edited by yodamus, 25 April 2014 - 20:28.


#100 BraveKath

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Posted 25 April 2014 - 21:52

.....easy fix to one problem- make the matchups random...

 

(See original post above)

 

yodamus - maybe I haven't had enough coffee today, but how would random match up's occur?  When I was playing I had to often wait a long time for an arena to gain sufficient people.  You have to still be saying the arena itself would have a level max.  So would people be waiting even longer?  

EDITED Apr 30 2014 ..... Thank you Yodamus.  He sent me a pm about the randomization.  Well my noobiness was certainly showing as well as my assumptions.  I am actually astouded.  I had no idea that the match ups were sequential according to the order of signing into it.  That seems like a basic strategical flaw and I never would have assumed this was the case.  Glad to know it and now *light bulb turns on* a lot more becomes clear.

So .... heck yeah to the Randomization!!!  It's a strategic game approach that should be in place and long overdue.


Edited by BraveKath, 30 April 2014 - 21:10.



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