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#81 BadPenny

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Posted 09 September 2021 - 22:19

You currently have 3,230

 

The Lower the Price the better. 

 

;)

 

 
You currently have 1,040 
Agreed....
FS should never be all about the whales
I appreciate them, but they're only a slice of the pie that is FS...

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#82 Helo

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Posted 09 September 2021 - 23:25

I actually would love to be able to level up faster with the new distil level 250. I say yes to that buff, but if BigGrim is thinking of not making it level 250 why not level 200 or so?

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Posted 09 September 2021 - 23:27

But. I would love for distil level 250 to stay that would be a reason why I would donate more to the game. To get that amazing new upgraded buff 😍

Edited by Helo, 09 September 2021 - 23:28.


#84 EpicPiety

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Posted 10 September 2021 - 00:46

Distil should not be over 150 with the current pots we have available. Game breaking

 

AL/Con/Lib also don't need to be over 750 not good for the game whatsoever. 


Edited by EpicPiety, 10 September 2021 - 00:48.


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Posted 10 September 2021 - 02:26

HCS: you REALLY need to rethink this - WIN buttons are not a good thing. Also - if players can get the best potions available for tokens... Why would they ever donate?

to get large amounts of tokens is by donating. DQ doesn't even offer enough token to buy those potions.


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Posted 10 September 2021 - 03:09

Now, for the past 5-6 years, all of my AT have come from DQ's and those daily 5 per day....  IMHO, the 5 per day should be increased to possibly 10 per day, AND in order to receive those 5 tokens, you have been active in the past 72 hours.... 

it should increase for veteran players and the daily rewards should be based on your loyalty medal.

 

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#87 KitiaraLi

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Posted 10 September 2021 - 03:59

Not even sure it matters to speak up anymore. Seems the recent changes and now "suggestions" brought to the game by the new and cool kids at HCS, are so far away from what this game seemed to be, that I am not even sure y'all know the game you're managing anymore. At least to me anyways.

 

If you actually do think our opinions matter, here be mine; Please do not introduce ANY pots with higher version of buffs, than we already have. Not for any sort of tokens, gold, donations, or in any other way shape or form.

As it is, the game has become way too easy and is no longer a matter of knowledge and/or skill, but a soulless "who can spend most to "succeed"".

You should have started a "here are which existing potions we're planning to nerf" thread instead. 

 

 

I could do a rant about most of those liking the suggested changes the most, also being some of the players who have spend the most money on it as it is (aka creditcard warriors) and also being those most voiced for game breaking changes in the past, simply because it benefits their "style of play" the most.... but I prolly shouldn't. Just.. stop breaking this game, please.


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#88 uncola

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Posted 10 September 2021 - 05:05

Instead of Higher level buffs we have access to, why not just add NEW BUFFS that can be bought , even if they are only LVL 175, but only exclusive to allegiance shop

 

 

Example ( Quick attack ) which is one we can see i action house search, can be lvl 175 for 10 tokens 

 

any one have thoughts on this way to implement a few new buffs?


Edited by uncola, 10 September 2021 - 05:08.


#89 werswet

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Posted 10 September 2021 - 05:42

Hi there, all new potions are wonderful, release them as proposed :)



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Posted 10 September 2021 - 09:46

Without sounding like a spoil sport, I personally think the levels of potions are already WAY WAY too big in many cases and should be being reduced not enhanced. There is no point in having huge doubler for example other than to allow those who have invested heavily (ridiculously heavily) in max stamina an opportunity to burn it quickly in a once or twice yearly hunt. If there is no content for them to advance into then this is pointless and has been for some time already. If content roll out can be advanced quicker than anyone can possibly level into it, like an expanding universe then fair enough, but need to be realistic here, that's not going to happen.

 

And as for distil 250??? Totally crazy, that should be reduced from 150 to 100.

 

I am all for a refresh of potions in the loyalty rewards, but let's not make them game breakers without thinking through the logic and the consequences. 

 

How about 'sensibly' changing the RP use options at same time as 'sensibly' changing the loyalty rewards?

 

All that will happen here given the suggestion is everyone ends up at EOC faster (if they haven't already purposely chosen not to do so), those players then de-level and generate more Gold and XP, and it becomes a tedious loop.

 

What next?, doubling of stamina regain?

 

The game needs a fundamental change in direction in my opinion, or at least a parallel stream that allows an alternative style of play without breaking or interfering with the OAPs who are happy with status quo and only ever log on click around a bit and log off every day (and that includes me ATM).

 

 

Sorry it is a thumbs down from me on this one.

 

If you wish to introduce some serious alternatives like hefty gold and xp loss, both at individual level and guild level through PvP and GvG, then I would be all for that.

 

 

 

 



#91 Bujon

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Posted 10 September 2021 - 10:22

A few comments on how getting to EOC faster would allow players to compete for the Top player medal!  Seriously???  In what world is that? One where Josh, Boats and Rockitman simply choose to skip a couple of DXP events!  You could maybe introduce a Top 10 medal or something to allow a scrap for minor places, but that would be clutching at straws and then those with the next biggest stam banks would simply step up and occupy those slots, hell may as well introduce a Max Stam Medal? (joke)  No, No, EOC is dead as a doughnut, without some serious twist in direction so is the game unfortunately.  

 

Apologies hijacking the thread for a general rant. 


Edited by Bujon, 10 September 2021 - 10:24.


#92 vikingv

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Posted 10 September 2021 - 10:43

Leaving aside for a moment whether these potions are overpowered, I wonder if Team Cow could explain how the price of these potions were arrived at



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Posted 10 September 2021 - 10:50

Leaving aside for a moment whether these potions are overpowered, I wonder if Team Cow could explain how the price of these potions were arrived at

 

Also, just for giggles might be worth publishing (without naming names) a list of the top 50 players current token stash!? 

i.e.  The player currently with the most tokens has 100,000 , 2nd has 95,000 so on and so forth. (bet it is significantly more than even that!!)


Edited by Bujon, 10 September 2021 - 10:54.


#94 Bujon

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Posted 10 September 2021 - 10:58

If excess unusable tokens is the issue at heart here, then why not simply allow them to be traded into something else?  Maybe cash them in for current stamina or gold or current tradeable pots?  And at same time improve the potions rewards a little bit so they at least offer better than 175 lvl buffs.


Edited by Bujon, 10 September 2021 - 11:30.


#95 BigGrim

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Posted 10 September 2021 - 15:09

Hi there.

 

A continued thanks for the feedback. I will ask that people stay on topic and provide feedback on the potions, and not derail things.

 

I'll give this a proper full read on Monday and see what's what. 

 

Thanks again,

 

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#96 Bujon

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Posted 10 September 2021 - 16:00

Okay that's me told off! lol

 

The following seem okay and suitable, all other potion proposals then a big NO from me, you will break the game.

 

Change Potion of Intensity to:
Doubler 1500 Loyalty 200
 
 
Change Auspice of Ancients to:
Conserve 440 Loyalty 100
 
 
Change Scholars Draft to:
Adept Learner 400 Loyalty 250
Librarian 400


#97 Bujon

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Posted 10 September 2021 - 16:02

Are we at least allowed to know what has driven the proposals in the first instance?



#98 BadPenny

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Posted 10 September 2021 - 16:07

Are we at least allowed to know what has driven the proposals in the first instance?

Player feedback and suggestions going back for a few years....  I believe EpicPiety first posted ideas about it....


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Posted 10 September 2021 - 16:11

Maybe at this time this updated happend for good! 


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#100 Bujon

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Posted 10 September 2021 - 16:15

Player feedback and suggestions going back for a few years....  I believe EpicPiety first posted ideas about it....

Understood, but if it is to just satisfy an abundance of unused tokens, do not see why we need game breaking mega pots, already way too many of them as it it stands.  Doubler 5000??? Come on, players bought max stam knowing the the limits of doubler, if they need 15 hours to hunt then that was their choice. 


Edited by Bujon, 10 September 2021 - 16:19.



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