Bounty hits have no place in ladder competition period. Both players opted-in, both accepted they could get hit, both need to accept that. No one ladders anymore because of pacts, bullying others off the ladder by a group of "friends", and bounties. Bounties should apply to UNWARRANTED HITS, plain and simple!!!!!
So just in case someone out there is against it,,,,
Started by watagashi, May 03 2013 02:24
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#102
Posted 17 June 2013 - 06:00
paingwin, on 17 Jun 2013 - 03:35, said:
No one ladders anymore because of pacts, bullying others off the ladder by a group of "friends", and bounties.
seems to me
No one ladders anymore because of pacts, bullying others off the ladder <<< is the problem
a group of "friends", and bounties. <<< is the solution
#103
Posted 17 June 2013 - 08:05
BUT,, without bountys on ladder they cant call for help, the last resort most of them run to when their pacts, rules or team ups fail to stop someone.
With bountys it flowed out,, once again from a competition to a brawl outside on the bb, eventually those who could not pay for hitters or rally enough gave it up. Now is a great time to take bountys off the ladder and let people handle their personel differences there too 
With bountys removed the cage door is locked to say it one way, they can stop hitting even pay for protect out but they cant call for help and blindside the winner they just fight back harder or fall
#104
Posted 17 June 2013 - 09:06
The whole ladder needs a complete revamp ... yes, by all means, remove bounties for hits done on it, but as part of that revamp, bring in new rewards - THAT HAVE A NEW "PAYMENT MECHANISM" to stop all those who've accumulated gazillions of tokens from doing little to no work.
New system, everyone starts from scratch. The old tokens can still make the old gear, but only the new "tokens" can make the new stuff.
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#105
Posted 17 June 2013 - 10:59
Voted no.
Can I vote again in an hour or every two mins? damn
I'm against(and always have been):
PvP protection
All 100 stam attacks not being counted as a stomper
GvGs not being bountyable
Not being able to earn xp(experience) from PvP
Guild sizes over 25
and Pete Rose not being in the Hall of Fame...
Where has it gotten me?
Can I vote again in an hour or every two mins? damn
I'm against(and always have been):
PvP protection
All 100 stam attacks not being counted as a stomper
GvGs not being bountyable
Not being able to earn xp(experience) from PvP
Guild sizes over 25
and Pete Rose not being in the Hall of Fame...
Where has it gotten me?
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#106
Posted 17 June 2013 - 11:27
New rule: Players must initiate at least 10 x 100 stam attacks on their ladder, per reset... or they get awarded nothing! 
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#107
Posted 17 June 2013 - 20:05
sweetlou, on 17 Jun 2013 - 10:59, said:
Voted no.
Can I vote again in an hour or every two mins? damn
I'm against(and always have been):
PvP protection
All 100 stam attacks not being counted as a stomper
GvGs not being bountyable
Not being able to earn xp(experience) from PvP
Guild sizes over 25
and Pete Rose not being in the Hall of Fame...
Where has it gotten me?
can you elaborate on why you voted no? just like to hear what you think.
#108
Posted 18 June 2013 - 11:11
Mongo, on 17 Jun 2013 - 11:27, said:
New rule: Players must initiate at least 10 x 100 stam attacks on their ladder, per reset... or they get awarded nothing!
theres a lot of stuff id change but hoping to get the biggest first then try to focus on other stuff,, yes this is a ok idea I say ok because if this is the case id say there should be more tokens then. With 24-48 hour resets someone like me can get 10 in no problem a more casual player may not be able to do that many in every band as much fun as id have with it.
Plus yet again with bountys allowed you are talking about putting up 50 levels for those 10 hits,,, not a lot of people gonna take that risk.
#109
Posted 18 June 2013 - 18:14
paingwin, on 17 Jun 2013 - 03:35, said:
Bounty hits have no place in ladder competition period. Both players opted-in, both accepted they could get hit, both need to accept that. No one ladders anymore because of pacts, bullying others off the ladder by a group of "friends", and bounties. Bounties should apply to UNWARRANTED HITS, plain and simple!!!!!
No one "ladders" anymore because almost no one "laddered" from the start.
Pacts, bullying and espcially bounties have a little to do with only few players per ladder.
Idea of level based ladders sounded good in the start, especially after the 2nd(I believe) ladder fix which filled this game with multies...
Problem is, with only few players per ladder who activelly PvP, it quickly became quite boring and pointless...The only reason why players opted-in were rewards.
And what happened-rewards became unprofitabe for most-why should they opt-in and waste their stam...those looking for fun mostly PvP outside of ladder...
Ladders should be removed from the game, rewards put in arena...some new ranking system, without rewards, created and I'll be happy...
But that's just me.
If cows could actually monitor and terminate multies - ladder with every level player on it activelly competing would be the best, and most fun...but that won't ever happen. Cows sucesefully spotting multies I mean.
#111
Posted 27 June 2013 - 22:55
BUMP.
I'm sick of this. I'm in the ladder and hit 2 people. One of the guys told me "I accidentally joined the ladder, stop 100 stamming me please."
The other guy I hit throws two bounties for the two hits I enacted.
So really, what is the point of the ladder? If you cry for your tokens or bounty for your tokens. Am I not suppose to hit?
Sorry if the post seems childish but it really ticked me off.
edit:
XXXXXXXXX says: I said you could have first if you dont want to get bountied dont attack then.
#112
Posted 28 June 2013 - 00:15
KrypWalk, on 27 Jun 2013 - 22:55, said:
BUMP.
I'm sick of this. I'm in the ladder and hit 2 people. One of the guys told me "I accidentally joined the ladder, stop 100 stamming me please."
The other guy I hit throws two bounties for the two hits I enacted.
So really, what is the point of the ladder? If you cry for your tokens or bounty for your tokens. Am I not suppose to hit?
Sorry if the post seems childish but it really ticked me off.
edit:
XXXXXXXXX says: I said you could have first if you dont want to get bountied dont attack then.
lol 
did you counter-bounty him/her?
DO IT
#113
Posted 28 June 2013 - 00:32
Dulcharn, on 28 Jun 2013 - 00:15, said:
lol
did you counter-bounty him/her?
DO IT
There is no way I could.
He hasn't hit me yet. And he's not going to. He'll stay where he is, bounty all incoming attacks, and "play" the ladder by doing ABSOLUTELY NOTHING and he will STILL get tokens.
#114
Posted 28 June 2013 - 00:38
Although I agree that this change should be implemented, I have been told I have no say as I don't partake in this part of the game. Should I delete my vote? Lol
#115
Posted 28 June 2013 - 00:39
KrypWalk, on 28 Jun 2013 - 00:32, said:
There is no way I could.
He hasn't hit me yet. And he's not going to. He'll stay where he is, bounty all incoming attacks, and "play" the ladder by doing ABSOLUTELY NOTHING and he will STILL get tokens.
Then make him/ her opt out by hitting him/ her continuously.
#116
Posted 28 June 2013 - 04:30
Dulcharn, on 28 Jun 2013 - 00:39, said:
Then make him/ her opt out by hitting him/ her continuously.
I'll only be deca-bountied.
#117
Posted 29 June 2013 - 04:30
KrypWalk, on 28 Jun 2013 - 04:30, said:
I'll only be deca-bountied.
Yes I quoted myself. And here is the deca-bounty proof
04:18 29/Jun/2013 !@#!@$% has placed a bounty on your head to avenge your attack on them! Any player which accepts this bounty will be able to attack you (regardless of level) and you will suffer 2x experience loss from anyone undertaking the bounty, until the bounty is completed. Note also that anyone attacking you for the bounty reward will be available for you to place a bounty on them! 
04:18 29/Jun/2013 !@#!@$% has placed a bounty on your head to avenge your attack on them! Any player which accepts this bounty will be able to attack you (regardless of level) and you will suffer 2x experience loss from anyone undertaking the bounty, until the bounty is completed. Note also that anyone attacking you for the bounty reward will be available for you to place a bounty on them! 04:18 29/Jun/2013 !@#!@$% has placed a bounty on your head to avenge your attack on them! Any player which accepts this bounty will be able to attack you (regardless of level) and you will suffer 2x experience loss from anyone undertaking the bounty, until the bounty is completed. Note also that anyone attacking you for the bounty reward will be available for you to place a bounty on them! 04:17 29/Jun/2013 !@#!@$% has placed a bounty on your head to avenge your attack on them! Any player which accepts this bounty will be able to attack you (regardless of level) and you will suffer 2x experience loss from anyone undertaking the bounty, until the bounty is completed. Note also that anyone attacking you for the bounty reward will be available for you to place a bounty on them! 04:17 29/Jun/2013 !@#!@$% has placed a bounty on your head to avenge your attack on them! Any player which accepts this bounty will be able to attack you (regardless of level) and you will suffer 2x experience loss from anyone undertaking the bounty, until the bounty is completed. Note also that anyone attacking you for the bounty reward will be available for you to place a bounty on them!
04:18 29/Jun/2013 !@#!@$% has placed a bounty on your head to avenge your attack on them! Any player which accepts this bounty will be able to attack you (regardless of level) and you will suffer 2x experience loss from anyone undertaking the bounty, until the bounty is completed. Note also that anyone attacking you for the bounty reward will be available for you to place a bounty on them! 04:18 29/Jun/2013 !@#!@$% has placed a bounty on your head to avenge your attack on them! Any player which accepts this bounty will be able to attack you (regardless of level) and you will suffer 2x experience loss from anyone undertaking the bounty, until the bounty is completed. Note also that anyone attacking you for the bounty reward will be available for you to place a bounty on them! 04:17 29/Jun/2013 !@#!@$% has placed a bounty on your head to avenge your attack on them! Any player which accepts this bounty will be able to attack you (regardless of level) and you will suffer 2x experience loss from anyone undertaking the bounty, until the bounty is completed. Note also that anyone attacking you for the bounty reward will be available for you to place a bounty on them! 04:17 29/Jun/2013 !@#!@$% has placed a bounty on your head to avenge your attack on them! Any player which accepts this bounty will be able to attack you (regardless of level) and you will suffer 2x experience loss from anyone undertaking the bounty, until the bounty is completed. Note also that anyone attacking you for the bounty reward will be available for you to place a bounty on them!04:04 29/Jun/2013 !@#!@$% has placed a bounty on your head to avenge your attack on them! Any player which accepts this bounty will be able to attack you (regardless of level) and you will suffer 2x experience loss from anyone undertaking the bounty, until the bounty is completed. Note also that anyone attacking you for the bounty reward will be available for you to place a bounty on them! 04:04 29/Jun/2013 !@#!@$% has placed a bounty on your head to avenge your attack on them! Any player which accepts this bounty will be able to attack you (regardless of level) and you will suffer 2x experience loss from anyone undertaking the bounty, until the bounty is completed. Note also that anyone attacking you for the bounty reward will be available for you to place a bounty on them!
#118
Posted 29 June 2013 - 20:49
And here come the real ladder players.
!@#!@#!@$says: 6% taken when i have honor, so,for one level 16 bounties + deflect bounties, 2 levels =31 bounties we will round it to 40.bounties/ assuming you lose only 1 level per a bounty(probably more) you will be in the lower band that concludes our class for today
#119
Posted 02 July 2013 - 08:27
why not make it so if you bounty a player you get kicked off the ladder till reset
#120
Posted 02 July 2013 - 23:20
with hoof's newborn calf, i've tried and successfully put my emotions on development on the back burner.. patience and consistency will break down the cow pie wall eventually 
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