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[Undjuvion]

Corrupted, on 13 Apr 2015 - 18:06, said:

1/3 Chance of throwing off the attacker on a GvG? Too high. Id like it to be reduced to the rates of Golden Shield and such.

 

it is a high % as i originally thought GvG is this buffs place ;O

[Nagoyaka]

I think titan doubler is not necessarily bad for the game. Yes there will be a lot more spawns, and yes, the epics will be devalued, but it will open the aspect for a lot more players.

[matt2269f]

yeah has lots of potential 

[yotwehc]

Nagoyaka, on 13 Apr 2015 - 17:57, said:

The kill streak only increases by 1 with the doubler activated. Can we have that fixed? Thanks

Isn't that how regular doubler works against regular monsters? :/

[Rocknoor]

Nagoyaka, on 13 Apr 2015 - 17:57, said:

The kill streak only increases by 1 with the doubler activated. Can we have that fixed? Thanks

 

 

yotwehc, on 13 Apr 2015 - 18:35, said:

Isn't that how regular doubler works against regular monsters? :/

 

Yes, regardless of the doubler the kill streak only goes up 1.

[wil72]

How can a player still have buffs listed in the buff market if they have triggered their skill points reset option and no longer have those buffs to offer?

 

Cheers.

 

wil72

[Kbyte]

Here an idea to rework on titan doubler buff to be more reasonable and don't make epic prices to be devalued so fast:

 

It could be 0.2% per point chance to gain 2 kills in an titan after killing him instead of 1 kill

 

At level 175 would be 35% chance to gain 2 kill after killing the titan once

 

(that would help titan hunting and still make it to be an reasonable good titan hunting buff)

 

[This rework suggestion would make titan hunting to take about 26% less time, instead of 75% less time the way it is now with 4x kills].

 

1/1.35 =  0.74074 => so with that buff on it would take on average 74% of the time it would take titan hunting without that buff.

 

1/4 = 0.25 => the way it is now

 

and when players be able to get teleport it may even reduce time to titan hunt again, let's say 20~40% (about less 30%) => 74% X  0.7( which is 1 less 30%) = 51.8% normal time (which is about 2 hours)

 

But if keep titan doubler the way it is: 4x

 

it would be => 25% X 0.7 = 17.5% normal time (which is 40 minutes on average/ faster hunter could even get an secure in about 30 min that way).

Edited by Kbyte, 14 April 2015 - 03:26.

[rowbeth]

Leos3000, on 13 Apr 2015 - 14:43, said:

I'm curious on how normal doubler and titan doubler will interact?

Will they multiply each other? Like x4 x20 and result in 80 stam used since you killed 4 creatures at once?

BigGrim, on 13 Apr 2015 - 14:46, said:

They don't.

grimnok, on 13 Apr 2015 - 16:17, said:

So if I have Titan Doubler x4 running, and regular Doubler x20 running? And I one hit a titan, how much stam will I use

4, 20, or 80?

 

Similar questions on the quest hunter. Does it stack with, or is it independent of, the other doubler options.

 

I would expect that these would work together like global booster and doubler (the boost is applied independently, while the cost is the max of the options), but it would be good to get confirmation of that.

 

And does it come with a stamina cost? The skill description mentions *only* the gain in kill count

[Nagoyaka]

yotwehc, on 13 Apr 2015 - 18:35, said:

Isn't that how regular doubler works against regular monsters? :/

 

That should be fixed, we do spend the stamina for it.

 

 

BigGrim, on 13 Apr 2015 - 14:57, said:

They still use the stamina for those kills.

Edited by Nagoyaka, 13 April 2015 - 19:01.

[Lellarell]

You made a mistake here:

 

Invert (Level 2000 Defensive) ----------------------> Offensive
Reign of Terror (Level 2500 Defensive)-----------> Offensive
Critical Strike (Level 3000 Defensive)-------------> Offensive

 

Layered Armor (Level 2000 Offensive) -----------> Defensive
Defensive Aura (Level 2500 Offensive)-----------> Defensive
Fumble (Level 3000 Offensive)---------------------> Defensive

 

 

The skill trees are changed.

 

Edited by Lellarell, 13 April 2015 - 19:58.

[QuaBules]

With Doubler you use more stamina to get more xp/gold, not number of kills.
With Titan Doubler you use more stamina to get more kills. It makes sense to me to count all the kills you make with one swing.
There's no mention of increased stamina usage in the description of Quest Hunter so I would guess it doesn't stack with Doubler.

[leefylee]

am i reading it right ? is FUMBLE the same buff as FLINCH ???

 

Edited by leefylee, 13 April 2015 - 19:11.

[mary4ever]

leefylee, on 13 Apr 2015 - 19:10, said:

am i reading it right ? is FUMBLE the same buff as FLINCH ???

yep, it is .....

[kalish]

Another way to stop titan epic prices from falling would be to get more players into the game. Increased demand to counteract the increased supply, as it were.

 

I'm drifting off-topic, aren't I?

[insaner6]

can you do something about the lag as well?? 
unless your plan is for a certain amount of players
to get bored of the lag and log off, 
so the rest can play in a decent way?

[gomezkilla]

leefylee, on 13 Apr 2015 - 19:10, said:

am i reading it right ? is FUMBLE the same buff as FLINCH ???

Yes, it is.

 

Fumble should be changed to something like .1% per skill point of the attacker's attack is stolen and added onto the defender's defense. And possibly a name change as well.

[Reddstarr]

mary4ever, on 13 Apr 2015 - 17:03, said:

3) TITAN DOUBLER 150+ = 4x Stamina usage in combat against a Titan would kill it FOUR times.

 

there are some topics here in this forum discussed about titan doubler and as far as I remember there were more players against it than for it !!!

now titans will be killed AT LEAST 4 times faster  !!!

it usually takes 3-4 hours to get a secure, now 1 hour WITHOUT teleport !!!

 

with TELEPORT might be under 45 min for a secure !!!

 

shortening the time to titan hunting is bad because:

 

titan gets killed faster which leads to more titan spawns which leads to more epic items in AH which leads to epic prices dropping which finally leads to a stand-still of some titans because it would not be worth it (stamina-wise) to hunt it for profit

 

titan drops are EPIC for a reason and they should stay EPIC =>>>> have high value & expensive

 

again, the more epics we have in the game the more their prices drop until finally the titan is not worth hunting anymore for profit !!!

 

Why exactly should it be made harder to clear titans so you can profit? Please explain why something that works as a time saver should in turn be taken out so that others can make a profit.

[WYB]

the update makes titan hunting so easy lol

 

A 'Echiphon the Hydra (Titan)' titan has been spotted in Dark Mist Forest (Range)! at 19:00

The 'Echiphon the Hydra (Titan)' titan has been defeated! at 20:27

 

not sure if good or bad, usually i get about 2500kills in about 3 hours, now it can be done in less than 1hour

Edited by WYB, 13 April 2015 - 20:34.

[Corrupted]

gomezkilla, on 13 Apr 2015 - 20:14, said:

Yes, it is.

 

Fumble should be changed to something like .1% per skill point of the attacker's attack is stolen and added onto the defender's defense. And possibly a name change as well.

Or maybe something like "x.xx chance of an opponent equipped item's stats to be negated at the start of combat" ?

That negated piece being only one, maybe also ignoring the set bonuses also?

[Alioth1]

I was going to hunt a Titan....but alas there is none there whatsoever!!!...apart from the Elementals and CoG(which has been known to hang around for up to a month plus)