296 replies to this topic

[RebornJedi]

Arterial Strike needs to go... should of been deleted during the exploit

[EpicPiety]

Arterial Strike needs to go... should of been deleted during the exploit

Narrow minded AS has potential to spice up hunting, also AS1000 will make absolutely no difference refer to shin's post.

[BadPenny]

Arterial Strike needs to go... should of been deleted during the exploit

You know, I use AS to hunt, every hunt... I have never 1 hit consistently and with the nerfing of DC, my ratio is even worse... AS gives me an even playing field....

 

NOT EVERYBODY cheats in this game and those of us that don't should not be punished for those that do... Those players, those cheaters, not the buff, should be deleted.

#ENDRANT
 

[Prop]

You know, I use AS to hunt, every hunt... I have never 1 hit consistently and with the nerfing of DC, my ratio is even worse... AS gives me an even playing field....

 

NOT EVERYBODY cheats in this game and those of us that don't should not be punished for those that do... Those players, those cheaters, not the buff, should be deleted.

#ENDRANT
 

 

There is no cheating going on with AS. If you like your kill streak, or can't one hit then use it to get the benefit from the imp loss until it runs out and then refresh the imp.

 

If you're just rolling with it, as the game stands you can't gain anything from it once your level goes above the creature your hitting.

[BadPenny]

There is no cheating going on with AS. If you like your kill streak, or can't one hit then use it to get the benefit from the imp loss until it runs out and then refresh the imp.

 

If you're just rolling with it, as the game stands you can't gain anything from it once your level goes above the creature your hitting.

It will be a long time before I'm at a point where the critter I'm hitting is >5 levels below me.... I don't even hit champs that long....  Never understood the benefit of standing in one spot, letting some script (allegedly) run my game for me.... Might as well play one of those autoplay mobile games that do all the work for me.... To me, that's not playing a game, it's watching a really bad movie over and over and over.... BORING!

[Prop]

It will be a long time before I'm at a point where the critter I'm hitting is >5 levels below me.... I don't even hit champs that long....  Never understood the benefit of standing in one spot, letting some script (allegedly) run my game for me.... Might as well play one of those autoplay mobile games that do all the work for me.... To me, that's not playing a game, it's watching a really bad movie over and over and over.... BORING!

That really wasn't the point I was making. I don't want to derail the thread from its initial purpose either but I have to say I have no idea what you're on about. If you can't work out how to do things, with or without AS for your XP benefit, it's really not anyone's problem but your own. Nor is any 'script?' if it ever existed beneficial to anyone now.

[BadPenny]

That really wasn't the point I was making. I don't want to derail the thread from its initial purpose either but I have to say I have no idea what you're on about. If you can't work out how to do things, with or without AS for your XP benefit, it's really not anyone's problem but your own. Nor is any 'script?' if it ever existed beneficial to anyone now.

I see, your dig was at me... back to iggy you go then....
Well, you're entitled to your opinion....

Whether or not I use AS or need it is neither here nor there.... it's still useful to some of us, and we should not be penalized for something others allegedly did long before an update was added which prevented it happening anymore.... Which was my point, and in answer to something Jedi said
It's never about you, contrary to what you may or may not believe.


I do apologize to the cows

 

[Prop]

Well that escalated quickly.

[Bujon]

Did somebody mention Arterial Strike? lol. AS1000 will defo spice up hunting with Distil 250 if hitting elites for several rounds, but with doubler 5000 there won't be much 'hunting' going on. Maybe make lightfoot inactive in elite realms?

Edited by Bujon, 12 September 2021 - 07:55.

[michael65]

my contribution:

1. if purpose of update is to help players with 50,000+ loyalty tokens spend a good number of those tokens, then the OP falls short. players have complained about having tokens but nothing useful to buy. i think OP helps, but pls for future consideration some non-potion ideas mentioned may help.

2. as to gold option, loyalty tokens should rule loyalty "shop." however, having 1 or 2 more gold option potions couldn't hurt. what about limited fsp option?

3. arterial strike: unless there is a non-loyalty "shop" option, the potion is limited in usefulness. 2hitting or n-hitting means use stam but get no additional gold. raising buff level higher as mentioned in thread might be a good idea to compensate for loss of gold and no benefit from conserve.

4. my 2 cents, distil should be no higher than 150.

5. also mentioned in thread, new higher level potions should be protected from spell leech.

6. what has been said about potions:

cost - raise, just right, lower (my 2p, in general i prefer lower)
duration - raise, just right, lower (my 2p, in general i prefer higher for leveling buffs - intermediate for pvp buffs)
buff level - raise, just right, lower (my 2p, many good points have been made for raising, leaving alone, and lowering the OP buff levels. in general i prefer higher buff levels but no obvious overpowered buff levels.)

[cows, gl in pleasing the fs community over this.]

7. doubler. in the past, i have been against high buff level for doubler. i feared the multi-round of combat (by accident) costing huge amount of stamina and then the complaints following. i now see the need for such buffs.

times stam usage:
(buff level)/50 + 1 = # of times stam is used

stam stop:
(# of times stam is used) * 20 = stam stop

i believe there is a need for a doubler with a stam stop of 7,000 giving a rough buff level of 17,500. if not currently for loyalty "shop," then for future consideration?

8. someone mentioned using the "new" buffs at buff level 175. i think the post recieved a few likes. worth considering?

possible solution, take a little from everyone.

[Medellin]

Are you guys also planning of increasing the Daily gained Allegiance Tokens!?

Say to 10 (to max 15) points of Daily Allegiance Tokens?

 

Sample log taken today:

03:17 13/Sep/2021 You have gained 5 Allegiance Tokens!

 

Everyone thoughts please?

[Pardoux]

 

Everyone thoughts please?

 

I wouldn't object - esp. given the proposed updates - but will it happen ? - not sure ..

[BigGrim]

Hi there everyone.

 

Got through the thread today and here are the changes I've made. Changes are in bold.

 

 

Change Potion of Intensity to:

Doubler 1500 Loyalty 200

 

 

Change Auspice of Ancients to:

Conserve 400 Loyalty 200

 

 

Change Scholars Draft to:

Adept Learner 400 Loyalty 250

Librarian 400

 

Potion of Ultimate Global Acceleration Cost reduced to 1000.

 

 

Move Fast Track Draft from Caves and upgrade to buff level 200. Loyalty: 100.

 

 

New: 

 

Here are 13 new proposed potions and their loyalty costs.

 

Warriors Elixir. Loyalty: 500

 

Fury Level : 200 Duration : 120m

Berserk Level : 200 Duration : 120m

Dark Curse Level : 200 Duration : 120m

Enchanted Weapon Level : 200 Duration : 120m

Wither Level : 200 Duration : 120m

Shatter Armor Level : 200 Duration : 120m

 

 

Potion of the Quester. Loyalty:  500

 

Find Item Level : 1000 Duration : 120m

Quest Finder Level : 250 Duration : 120m

Quest Hunter Level : 250 Duration : 120m

 

 

Potion of Precision Strike. Loyalty:  500

 

Arterial Strike Level :  1000 Duration : 120m

 

 

Forgemaster Draft. Loyalty:  500

 

Epic Forge Level :  200 Duration : 120m

Epic Craft Level : 200 Duration :120m

  

 

 

Magical Carapace. Loyalty:  500

 

Defensive Aura Level : 250 Duration : 120m

Shield Wall Level : 250 Duration : 120m

 

 

Sorcerous Scales. Loyalty:  500

 

Layered Armor Level : 250 Duration : 120m

Armor Boost Level : 250 Duration : 120m

 

 

Hunting Lord Potion. Loyalty:  1000

 

Doubler Level : 3000 Duration : 120m

 

 

Potion of the Divine Hunter. Loyalty:   2000

 

Doubler Level : 5000 Duration : 120m

 

 

Potion of Divine Knowledge. Loyalty:  750

 

Adept Learner Level : 600 Duration : 120m

Librarian Level : 600 Duration : 120m

 

 

Rampage Potion. Loyalty:  1000

 

Animal Magnetism Level : 450 Duration : 120m

Conserve Level : 550 Duration : 120m

 

 

Alchemist Prized Potion. Loyalty:  500

 

Distil removed.

Brewing Master Level :  500 Duration : 120m

 

 

Potion of Supreme Global Acceleration. Loyalty 750

Global Booster 1000

 

Potion of Devilish Global Acceleration. Loyalty 2000.

Global Booster 2000

 

Potion of Godly Global Acceleration. Loyalty 3000.

Global Booster 3000

 

 

Again, feedback on these new changes are welcome.

 

~ Grim

[Bakuzen]

Alchemist Prized Potion. Loyalty:  500

 

Distil removed.

Brewing Master Level :  500 Duration : 120m

Best change

[Corrupted]

 

Hi there everyone.

 

Got through the thread today and here are the changes I've made. Changes are in bold.

 

New: 

 

Here are 13 new proposed potions and their loyalty costs.

 

Warriors Elixir. Loyalty: 500

 

Fury Level : 200 Duration : 120m

Berserk Level : 200 Duration : 120m

Dark Curse Level : 200 Duration : 120m

Enchanted Weapon Level : 200 Duration : 120m

Wither Level : 200 Duration : 120m

Shatter Armor Level : 200 Duration : 120m

 

Wither is available at 350 from AH already. Why not make this 400 maybe?
Fury/Berserk/Dark Curse we already have as common potions as well. Why not just make this Force Shield/Absorb/Great Vigor at level 300? or at least any Defense tree buffs?
E. Weapon at 200 is bad considering we have EW 1000 for 2.4k at bazaar at times. How about ... Enchant ARMOR 1000 >
Shatter Armor for Savagery maybe?
 

 

 

Potion of the Quester. Loyalty:  500

 

Find Item Level : 1000 Duration : 120m

Quest Finder Level : 250 Duration : 120m

Quest Hunter Level : 250 Duration : 120m

 

 

Potion of Precision Strike. Loyalty:  500

 

Arterial Strike Level :  1000 Duration : 120m

 

 

Forgemaster Draft. Loyalty:  500

 

Epic Forge Level :  200 Duration : 120m

Epic Craft Level : 200 Duration :120m

  

Nice

 

Magical Carapace. Loyalty:  500

 

Defensive Aura Level : 250 Duration : 120m

Shield Wall Level : 250 Duration : 120m

 

 

Sorcerous Scales. Loyalty:  500

 

Layered Armor Level : 250 Duration : 120m

Armor Boost Level : 250 Duration : 120m

 

 

Hunting Lord Potion. Loyalty:  1000

 

Doubler Level : 3000 Duration : 120m

 

 

Potion of the Divine Hunter. Loyalty:   2000

 

Doubler Level : 5000 Duration : 120m

 

 

Potion of Divine Knowledge. Loyalty:  750

 

Adept Learner Level : 600 Duration : 120m

Librarian Level : 600 Duration : 120m

 

Nice

 

Rampage Potion. Loyalty:  1000

 

Animal Magnetism Level : 450 Duration : 120m

Conserve Level : 550 Duration : 120m

 

Nice

 

Alchemist Prized Potion. Loyalty:  500

 

Distil removed. Nice

Brewing Master Level :  500 Duration : 120m Problematic at this level. Make it same cost as Doubler 5000 (3000 Tokens) or reduce levels. Arena players are already down horrendous and this would serve a bad blow to their last marketable reward (BM300 pot)

 

 

Potion of Supreme Global Acceleration. Loyalty 750

Global Booster 1000

 

Potion of Devilish Global Acceleration. Loyalty 2000.

Global Booster 2000

 

Potion of Godly Global Acceleration. Loyalty 3000.

Global Booster 3000

 

 

Again, feedback on these new changes are welcome.

 

~ Grim

 

See attached feedback. Looks good tho!
 

Edited by Corrupted, 14 September 2021 - 16:05.

[PointyHair]

Mostly good changes except for the removal of the big AL, Lib, Cons, Distil.

Very sad that the vocal minority have got their way again.

At least the doublers are exclusive for now.

[Undjuvion]

BG, i think Corrupted summed it up well, there isnt uber for pvp in this package, the warrior elixir needs buffing/changing.

 

relatively nice new proposal, less fun, tho more feasible.

[BigGrim]

Very sad that the vocal minority have got their way again.

The first 5 pages were of people arguing against it. There was practically no one arguing FOR it. Frankly, it made sense.

 

~ Grim

[EpicPiety]

Warriors Elixir. Loyalty: 500 > 350

 

Fury Level : 200 Duration : 120m > 300m

Berserk Level : 200 Duration : 120m > 300m

Dark Curse Level : 200 Duration : 120m > 300m

Enchanted Weapon Level : 200 > 800 Duration : 120m > 300m

Wither Level : 200 > 300 Duration : 120m > 300m

Shatter Armor Level : 200 Duration : 120m > 300m

Forgemaster Draft. Loyalty:  500 > 200

 

Epic Forge Level :  200 Duration : 120m > 240m

Epic Craft Level : 200 Duration :120m > 240m

 

Rampage Potion. Loyalty:  1000

 

Animal Magnetism Level : 450 Duration : 120m

Conserve Level : 550 > 650 Duration : 120m

 

Potion of Divine Knowledge. Loyalty:  800

 

Adept Learner Level : 600 > 700 Duration : 120m

Librarian Level : 600 > 650 Duration : 120m

NEW

 

Base Booster. Loyalty: 500

Rage: 250 Duration: 240m
Fortify: 500 Duration: 240m

Evade: 500 Duration: 240m

Rockskin:  500 Duration: 240m

Aura of Protection: 500 Duration: 240m

Great Vigor: 500 Duration: 240m

^ Edited these higher, they seem high but trust me they are not going to account for much given the way these buffs work.

I really think a good thing would be to take advantage of duration from time to time. We don't always need a better potion with higher skills... However a worse potion with higher duration could be taken just as well for a fair few.

Edited by EpicPiety, 15 September 2021 - 03:37.

[Undjuvion]

as EP said too BG, warrior elixir needs huge duration, 300+ mins.