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[Uncle Beg]

Hi All,

 

Here's an idea to encourage players to be active and donate.

It would be nice to be able to use the Allegiance Tokens for Character Upgrades.

[tharzill]

I really don't think this is needed as we have fsp upgrades, and gold upgrades also. I think the potions available through the Allegiance Tokens are more than enough. 

 

My two cents!

[BigGrim]

Hey there.

I really don't see this happening. The potions bought for loyalty points are great and you have gold and FSP means of upgrading your accounts.

~ Grim

[Uncle Beg]

Hi Grim,

 

I understood and heard what you are saying.  I have been playing FS for 6 years and would like to continue to play.  However, I do realize that a lot of players retired and new ones are no joining that much.

 

A lof of lower level players retired because they don't have the resources to upgrade their character therefore they don't have an incentive to stay active.

 

The main purpose of my proposal is to encourage players to stay ACTIVE.

 

For example, If a player stay active every day for 60 days, they get special Tokens to upgrade a backpack or something for their character.

[justinian9]

beg2lose read this forum and there is a link posted in the thread also

 

https://forums.hunte...egiance-tokens/

[vastilos]

To be honest, and I've already mentioned this to Hoof, but the donation system does need a change and the prices of what's in the Alligence Section needs to be lowered.

What I suggessted to Hoof was that you need to give more than fsp and alligence tokens when people donate. What I suggessted to Hoof was to give players stuff like max stamina, bp spaces, composing spaces when donating. 400 fsp and alligence tokens (no offense) are not worth the $60 anymore. Here's a comparison between donation systems of this game and the other MMO I play.

For $60 (FS adds tax and currency conversion) I get 400 fsp and some Alligence tokens. Now the other MMO I play, for $60 (no tax or currency conversion) I get 6,000 game currency (like fsp) and bonuses for donating that $60. So that right there is an eye catcher for some people. Here in FS, BP spaces cost you 15 fsp each, so 400 fsp would get you 26 BP spaces. The MMO I play you unlock rows of BP spaces, which I get 6 BP spaces (one row) for 175 game currency (which would cost $1.75). And there is 6 rows per page, and 10 pages total (So 6 rows with 6 spaces, which is 36 spaces per page). And there is additional storage you can purchace outside of your BP which you inlock 10 spaces (one row) for 275 game currency (which would cost $2.75). And the additional storage has 10 rows per page, and there's 5 pages there (So 10 rows and 10 spaces per row, which is 100 spaces per page). On top of that, I am also given bonuses for spending the game currency, here you are not. That MMO also gives you bonuses for doing daily activities for yourself and your guild so incase you can't afford to spend real money, you can earn the for free. And that's just a few things.

 

I believe that in order to keep newer players (and to get more donations), you have to change what you give players for what they spend. I'm pretty sure when new players roll around and they get the hang of things, the donation system is what peeks their interest. Now looking at how much game currency you are given with no bonuses for what you donate, it makes the game seem like you have to invest too much time to get on your feet and to some what advance your character, when games like that give more.

 

I posted this idea to Hoof via tickets, if you don't believe me, and I'm not trying to offend anyone, but changing the donation system and the prices of the stuff in the alligence section I believe would bring in more revenue, and keep a few newer players.

Edited by vastilos, 03 December 2014 - 23:12.

[BadPenny]

Another thing, that was in another thread, is that our current Loyalty rewards are nice, but they are expensive, for the most part, and limited in selection.  As somebody who donates religiously, it would make me feel more appreciated if there were more potions available, and the costs were lowered somewhat.  Can we has, please?

[Maury Bund]

At one time, the AL and Conserve pots were really nice, fairly cheap loyalty potions. With the ease it is to surpass those buff levels with composing now, those 2 potions no longer hold much glamour.

 

You can get almost the same results with a Potion of Resilience + a cheap 10k gold disti as you can with Everlasting Potionl, only the loyalty pot is not effected by Spell Breaker/Leech.

 

Sacrifice 250 can be bought for much less than 1/2 of 1 FSP in gold and is higher than the level 200 in the loyalty section.

 

All that really leaves desirable are the Lightfoot and Doubler potions or maybe the last 2 Global Booster potions, for those looking to score top 100.

 

The loyalty section should get an overhaul.

[justinian9]

At one time, the AL and Conserve pots were really nice, fairly cheap loyalty potions. With the ease it is to surpass those buff levels with composing now, those 2 potions no longer hold much glamour.

 

You can get almost the same results with a Potion of Resilience + a cheap 10k gold disti as you can with Everlasting Potionl, only the loyalty pot is not effected by Spell Breaker/Leech.

 

Sacrifice 250 can be bought for much less than 1/2 of 1 FSP in gold and is higher than the level 200 in the loyalty section.

 

All that really leaves desirable are the Lightfoot and Doubler potions or maybe the last 2 Global Booster potions, for those looking to score top 100.

 

The loyalty section should get an overhaul.

The current loyalty rewards do not take into account the PvP donators either.  Should be options for levelers and PvPers.

[steveanaya]

I have to agree with the general consensus. I know I'll be donating if my allegiance tokens get me something more valuable than a doubler.

[Pardoux]

Hoof asked for suggestions for new loyalty potions ages ago - there were loads of suggestions made and, unfortunately as happens all to often, nothing happened.

 

For a higher levelled player, only 2 potions in the loyalty section are of much use - Doubler 1250 and Lightfoot 1500.  I haven't used an LF1500 for ages, 'cos I think they're too expensive , preferrring to use the LF600s from the arena, especially since the prices of those have gotten SO much lower.

 

So, yes, the loyalty potion area (like so many other areas of the game) needs looking at ..

[bloody18]

Hoof asked for suggestions for new loyalty potions ages ago - there were loads of suggestions made and, unfortunately as happens all to often, nothing happened.

 

For a higher levelled player, only 2 potions in the loyalty section are of much use - Doubler 1250 and Lightfoot 1500.  I haven't used an LF1500 for ages, 'cos I think they're too expensive , preferrring to use the LF600s from the arena, especially since the prices of those have gotten SO much lower.

 

So, yes, the loyalty potion area (like so many other areas of the game) needs looking at ..

Agree with all of this!   I use the Doubler, LF , and the Global potions from the loyalty page. Would HCS please consider lowering the cost for some of these potions? Especially the LF ( 750 tokens) and the Global Booster ( 700 tokens) ...and the most outrageously priced -  CRYSTAL KEY (1000tokens). When you open a treasure chest you should profit from it ..I paid 1000 tokens to open a Twisted Chest and got a Zipporino the Crazys Amulet which  would not sell ( for 1 FSP) for weeks and I finally broke it down for a couple frags. Something not right in Whoville thanks guys

Edited by bloody18, 04 December 2014 - 09:24.

[Pardoux]

CRYSTAL KEY (1000tokens). When you open a treasure chest you should profit from it ..I paid 1000 tokens to open a Twisted Chest and got a Zipporino the Crazys Amulet which  would not sell ( for 1 FSP) for weeks and I finally broke it down for a couple frags. Something not right in Whoville thanks guys

 

Oh yeah, forgot ALL about the keys ...

Bronze : 50 Tokens or 250,000 gold
Silver   : 200 Tokens or 1,000,000 gold
Gold     : 500 Tokens or 5,000,000 gold

Crystal : 1000 Tokens or 10,000,000 gold

For the items in the chests, these prices are, quite frankly, ridiculous given the majority of the contents IN the chests...

Stuff like the crystalline gear should be removed - or rebalanced into sets to make it useful

Stuff like the stashes should prolly all be in either the silver or gold chests, given the low count of actual frags in 'em

Stuff like the potions should be in silver and gold too, for the most part

 

And, the crystallline key chests need something new and VALUABLE putting in 'em ... 50 fsp for a key to get an item that sells for something between 1g and 20 fsp isn't what you'd call a good return. How about, for instance, making the contents of the crystalline chest give you 3 extra BP slots or max stamina or something ? - think outside the box ?

[BigGrim]

The prices of what's in the Allegiance Section needs to be lowered.

 

That's something I could get behind. I can discuss this with Hoofmaster and Radneto.

 

If there were more potions available.

 

The current loyalty rewards do not take into account the PvP donators either.  Should be options for levelers and PvPers.

 

Anything in particular come to mind? I'll look into suggestions. Just try not to go too silly powerful.

[Jose]

 

That's something I could get behind. I can discuss this with Hoofmaster and Radneto.

 

 

 

Anything in particular come to mind? I'll look into suggestions. Just try not to go too silly powerful.

 

 

I would like to get KE 1000 LOL no way but considering that Composing is getting rid of most of the buffs already I really think that perhaps there could be different buffs like Rage 300 and Fury 300 or maybe Blood thirst, Poison and Ignite lvl 300 as well.

[justinian9]

BigGrim... watch this thread also for ideas or lock it and place a link to this one.  Thanks

 

https://forums.hunte...egiance-tokens/

[lapdragon]

just chiming in as one who donates on a regular basis, i do feel like im asking a lot, but on the other hand, some of the loyalty pots are not worth the tokens i spent good money to get.  LOVE the high level doubler, LF and global booster.  UB is good too.  but the others i can buff for higher levels and cheaper.  I do really think that the loyalty items shud be worth what im spending.  Dont get me wrong...i spend to get the FSP, and im grateful that tokens are a bonus, (i gain 5 tokens every day for logging on), and you know im all about going broke on getting the "fsp special reward offers" with the nice little chests n boxes!!  So if there is some agreement that maybe tweak some of the pots...like CON and COURAGEOUS DRAFT (doubler 50?? an the others level 100?) id be willing to do the happy lappy dragon dance LMAO!!  but i am grateful as i said for having this addition to my fsp!!  Thank you!

[Subject]

just chiming in as one who donates on a regular basis, i do feel like im asking a lot, but on the other hand, some of the loyalty pots are not worth the tokens i spent good money to get.  LOVE the high level doubler, LF and global booster.  UB is good too.  but the others i can buff for higher levels and cheaper.  I do really think that the loyalty items shud be worth what im spending.  Dont get me wrong...i spend to get the FSP, and im grateful that tokens are a bonus, (i gain 5 tokens every day for logging on), and you know im all about going broke on getting the "fsp special reward offers" with the nice little chests n boxes!!  So if there is some agreement that maybe tweak some of the pots...like CON and COURAGEOUS DRAFT (doubler 50?? an the others level 100?) id be willing to do the happy lappy dragon dance LMAO!!  but i am grateful as i said for having this addition to my fsp!!  Thank you!

Agreed Lapdragon, Only potions i buy with my loyalty is the LF, Doubler , and High Level Global Booster.., other than that... nothing really, ... could be cool to get a higher level Stalker or Overkill, ( folds hands and puts on his PLEASE FACE . )  For a Higher level Merch or Treasure hunter ;p <------ i know it wont happen LOL... or maybe even higher level Animal M. ( thinking Hunting wise ) if your wanted PvP maybe a Higher level Gloat or Honor that would be cool... 

[justinian9]

I am not sure the low level potions in loyalty section need to go or boosted as new players with low stamina can use those potions. 

 

New pots need to be added.

 

I am in the same boat as you all... the only loyalty pots worth using are UB, LF, Doubler, and Global Doubler.  I sometimes use the Conserve 180 pots to accomplish small tasks and want to save a little stamina.

[vastilos]

To be honest, the only thing I buy from the Allegiance section is the doubler potion and the global booster potion (when there is a global event) and even then, the global boosters are ridiciliously over priced and I just end up spending 60 mins over 3 days to get the required kills.

When us player donate money, we need to feel satisified that we're getting our moneys worth. 400 fsp doesn't go a long way (no offense) which is why I stopped being an active donator.