33 replies to this topic

[RebornJedi]

Please revert the PvP ladder bands back to what they once were, or something else than before they were reduced to only 8 bands for almost 3000 levels.. The level ranges, especially for the lower levels are ridiculous and its obvious they dont promote more activity..

Also new players are automatically opt'd into the PvP ladder.. Having them go against a level 249 is a brutal way to start the game.. And quite unfair..

Please please please fix that if anything.. I don't even care if my band is unchanged, at least give new players a chance!!

Take into account equipment and personal buffs when deciding pvp ladder bands..

Thoughts? Ideas on pvp ladder band ranges?

Edited by RebornJedi, 09 January 2016 - 00:48.

[REDBARON2]

Definitely agree with you. When I joined I was smashed every hour for a day or so till that person felt sorry for me and told me what to do. I kept on losing levels I would get up to level 2 and then be hit and then it repeated.

[REDBARON2]

BTW I appreciate you actively working to help the lower level people.

[Mister Doom]

The groups should definitely be much closer together the lower of a level you are.

Opening out as you move through the levels.

[sweetlou]

Also new players are automatically opt'd into the PvP ladder.. Having them go against a level 249 is a brutal way to start the game.. And quite unfair..

Automatic opt in is awesome! Creates players that can expect to be hit, the original way the game was played!

 

Level 249 vs 25 is ridiculous, but so is the amount of attention the game gets for coding requirements.

[yodamus]

Please revert the PvP ladder bands back to what they once were, or something else than before they were reduced to only 8 bands for almost 3000 levels.. The level ranges, especially for the lower levels are ridiculous and its obvious they dont promote more activity..

Also new players are automatically opt'd into the PvP ladder.. Having them go against a level 249 is a brutal way to start the game.. And quite unfair..

Please please please fix that if anything.. I don't even care if my band is unchanged, at least give new players a chance!!

Take into account equipment and personal buffs when deciding pvp ladder bands..

Thoughts? Ideas on pvp ladder band ranges?

been saying this for months..still nothing done..still chasing new players out of the game..i do not understand at all how someone could have thought that bracket and automatically placing new players in it was going to be good for the game..worst idea ever..yet still there ???  amazes me

 

bu, as you see in the post above me..some think it is great  and AWESOME to chase the newer players right out of the game..to have unfairness running rampart in the ladder brackets..have players auto-opted in when they begin..no wonder game is suffering for lack of players...that, let them get used to being hit attitude..yea it is working great.. NOT !!

Edited by yodamus, 09 January 2016 - 15:16.

[EpicPiety]

Automatic opt in is awesome! Creates players that can expect to be hit, the original way the game was played!

 

Level 249 vs 25 is ridiculous, but so is the amount of attention the game gets for coding requirements.

Rather not be forced into something which i find tedious and boring...I am auto opted in to PVP anyways...anyone can hit me within my level.

Please revert the PvP ladder bands back to what they once were, or something else than before they were reduced to only 8 bands for almost 3000 levels.. The level ranges, especially for the lower levels are ridiculous and its obvious they dont promote more activity..

Also new players are automatically opt'd into the PvP ladder.. Having them go against a level 249 is a brutal way to start the game.. And quite unfair..

Please please please fix that if anything.. I don't even care if my band is unchanged, at least give new players a chance!!

Take into account equipment and personal buffs when deciding pvp ladder bands..

Thoughts? Ideas on pvp ladder band ranges?

At-least stagger the lower level bands a bit... Like GVG...+50 range for below level 250 till 500 then +100 till 1000 then +250 till 1500 then +500

Edited by EpicPiety, 09 January 2016 - 15:36.

[SirAdmiral]

The brackets are ridiculous.

I think automatic opt-in, with a manual opt-out is okay... but only if the brackets aren't broken.

Why can't be just adjust ranges a bit until we find happy mediums?

[RebornJedi]

25-49
50-99
100-149
150-199
200-299
300-399
400-499
500-649
650-799
800-999
1000-1199
1200-1399
1400-1599
1600-1999
2000-2499
2500-2999

Thoughts? I tried take into account the buff levels at higher levels.. Being able to cast Smashing Hammer/high guard/golden shield or Armor Boost/Shield Wall is a huge advantage that needs to be recognized..

[WhoToldYouSo]

The brackets are ridiculous.

I think automatic opt-in, with a manual opt-out is okay... but only if the brackets aren't broken.

Why can't be just adjust ranges a bit until we find happy mediums?

 HCS would just need to add a "pointer" like when you start off that sends you to the option of opt-in / opt-out when you join the first time.

[yghorbeviahn]

Or at least a message once you hit level 25 showing what PvP Ladder is, and how to opt-out

[shindrak]

25-49
50-99
100-149
150-199
200-299
300-399
400-499
500-649
650-799
800-999
1000-1199
1200-1399
1400-1599
1600-1999
2000-2499
2500-2999

Thoughts? I tried take into account the buff levels at higher levels.. Being able to cast Smashing Hammer/high guard/golden shield or Armor Boost/Shield Wall is a huge advantage that needs to be recognized..

Problem is pvp ladder mechanic its dull... i joined highest bracket and it was only me and other guy hitting each other at random times it was boring...

I think it would be more fun reducing time between ladder hits to 30 mins and reduce reset time to 24 hour then more competition will be there

Edited by shindrak, 09 January 2016 - 22:57.

[Filletminion]

Problem is pvp ladder mechanic its dull... i joined highest bracket and it was only me and other guy hitting each other at random times it was boring...

I think it would be more fun reducing time between ladder hits to 30 mins and reduce reset time to 24 hour then more competition will be there

While I agree with what you are saying, It is pointless joining a ladder or trying to compete v people who have lvl 60 composing pots to use..only a masochist would do so blindly. On top of that we all use pretty much the same gear up here and have few options to create setups that involve real imagination and evaluation.

Edited by zizzwyly, 10 January 2016 - 06:47.

[shindrak]

While I agree with what you are saying, It is pointless joining a ladder or trying to compete v people who have lvl 60 composing pots to use..only a masochist would do so blindly. On top of that we all use pretty much the same gear up here and have few options to create setups that involve real imagination and evaluation.

Yea i struggled to level up composing because of that .. now i got to level 51 but dont have motivation to keep going lol

i have handful pots from composing but i don't find ladder fun even i have advantage over someone without composing pots.

i would be happy to see pvp ladder running without buffs , only gears stats

Edited by shindrak, 10 January 2016 - 16:20.

[SirAdmiral]

Yea i struggled to level up composing because of that .. now i got to level 51 but dont have motivation to keep going lol
i have handful pots from composing but i don't find ladder fun even i have advantage over someone without composing pots.
i would be happy to see pvp ladder running without buffs , only gears stats

Oh god, I would NEVER place then lol.

[wazzimoto]

Current Bands are RIDICULOUS for the lower levels especially.........a level 50 is gunna compete with level 200 Gear??  LOL   OK!?!?!

Edited by wazzimoto, 13 January 2016 - 18:26.

[yodamus]

Current Bands are RIDICULOUS for the lower levels especially.........a level 50 is gunna compete with level 200 Gear??  LOL   OK!?!?!

and what is worse..it has been that way for months, still there..nothing done about it..level 50 ? how about the level 25 players that wakes up that next day..minus a level or 2, has no idea what happened to him..no idea why his log is full of pvp hits..does not take long for that player to say goodbye to fs ..yet the cows still insist ladder is ok..heck even some of the pvpers think it is ok to automatically put a level 25 player in that bracket, they say they need to learn about getting hit..that is the attitude of this game as it stands..quite disgusting if you ask me

[Hoofmaster]

 HCS would just need to add a "pointer" like when you start off that sends you to the option of opt-in / opt-out when you join the first time.

 

 

Or at least a message once you hit level 25 showing what PvP Ladder is, and how to opt-out

 

Agree with both of these - also going to review the bands before the end of the month

[mary4ever]

currently the lowest PvP ladder band is (25 - 249)

 

I think it would be best to put the lowest PvP ladder band at (100 - 249) for these reasons:

• at lvl 100 you can wear better gear that increase your stats by A LOT compared to gear <99 !!! some mentionable gears at lvl 100 are reborn elemental air javelin, ogaliths fiery grasp, writhing ward, krimson kardic helm, nuadas set, goldstrike set, .....
• lvl 100 gear have a big advantage in stats towards gear <99 !!!
• lvl 200+ gear have an even bigger a advantage in stats towards gear <99 !!!
• lvl 100 gear can overcome lvl 249 gear with buffs !!!

new players 1st priority should be to level up & I think it would be best to give them PvP protection for 3 weeks like we currently have + PvP protection should remain until they reach lvl 100 & that the lowest PvP band should start at lvl 100 too so that they can have a fair chance to compete with higher players in their PvP ladder band or they will end up getting farmed !!!

lvl 25 gear stands hardly any chance against lvl 100 - 249 gear EVEN if they get fully buffed & potted up !!!

Edited by mary4ever, 14 January 2016 - 14:43.

[RebornJedi]

I love the idea of starting the pvp ladder at level 100.. What are other player's thoughts on that starting level??

I don't agree with a level 100 against a 249 though.. Their first experience shouldn't be going against that (just like a level 25 shouldn't have to even think about doing)

- also going to review the bands before the end of the month

Before, could you change the auto OPT in for all new players? Until you have a chance to work on the pvp bands, this would be a quick fix to a big problem..

Edited by RebornJedi, 14 January 2016 - 15:55.