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[tuvok77]

Greetings ladies and gentlemen,
 
Today I shall present you my guide to GvG, it doesnt matter if youre new to it, quite experienced or a legend at GvG. Everyone can learn something here and I shall make it my aim to show YOU, the reader the art of GvG, show up certain methods and ways to do it and to win it succesfully!

 

Legal Disclaimer:

Spoiler

Any guilds featured in this guide are only featured to visibly showcase Tuvoks 101 Guide to GvG. In no way it is meant that those guilds are "easy targets" or that members of those guilds do not actively retaliate. In hope of better understanding and growth in GvG, by default it is viewed that every guild featured here agrees to be part of the guide in form of pictures. Any one not inclined to have his/her guild featured here, shall please message me ingame, so we can resolve the issue.

 

Contents
 
1.1 --- GvG what is it, how it is performed.
 
1.2 --- What Setups & Buffs do I need to consider.
 
1.3 --- GvG: My team, my targets and me.
 
1.4 --- The art of winning & loosing a conflict
 
1.5 --- 101 Guide to finding Guilds to fight with
 
1.6 --- Retaliations, defending and making your enemy loose
 
 
 
1.7 --- Guild builds, your defence is your best offence  [Bonus for Guild Founders & Council]
 
1.8 --- Calculating RP price income vs. GvG input, while maintaining fair pay for your GvGers [Bonus²]
 
 
 
So seems like a big list, I shall keep it short and on close point so lets start now! Each section is kept in Spoilers so to not clogg up the guide too much, just open the one that you feel most inclined to read, or read everything like Kittles would do.

 

1.1 --- GvG what is it, how it is performed

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GvG meaning Guild versus Guild combat or simply a "conflict" is the term for clans or guilds taking up arms against other guilds, hitting each other for 50, 75 or 100 hits on each sides, then having the hits on both sides processed afterwards by the system once the timer of 24 hours runs out (thats the duration how long each conflict lasts) and once its processed having Reputation Points gained and Rating earned depending on wether the conflict was a Loss, Draw or Victory. This is usually determined by whoever has more succesful hits on the other guild.

 

Note: An unresolved combat hit will always be counted as a loss for the attacker!

 

Note: If both sides do not reach the needed hits for the conflicts, the conflict will be counted as a draw with no RP & Rating change.

 

Here is some example of a victorious GvG:

 

Heres an example on how a clogged up GvG feed with multiple participants usually looks like:

 

As you can already see, theres a limit on how many participants can partake and how many times players can hit each other in the corresponding guilds.

 

Note: This means we have a finite number of hits, time and participants.

 

Also from the picture above you noticed that there isnt any GvG that has on the initiators site only 1 participant with all the required hits. This is because the rules of GvG changed over the course of the years to avoid abuse.  Theres a minimum of 2 players on the initiators guild needed for 50 conflicts and in each conflict from the initiators site every player is maximum allowed to do 25 hits each.

Here it does not matter wether you hit your target in the conflicts with 10 or 100 stam, as it does not matter how many stamina is used per hit, staying cost effective and only using the minimum stamina needed per GvG is adviced though. In the retaliators guild, the conflict may be "cleared" by 1 player doing all the hits necessary in the conflict.

 

Before initiating a conflict, always make sure you have the following rights in the guild:

 

 

Without this right you will not have the right to initiate any Guild Conflicts, but you will be able to participate in conflicts already started by a guildmate with this right or incoming conflicts!

 

Should you have both a partner in GvG and the rights to initiate a conflict, all you have to do is find suitable targets in a guild for both, you and your partner and then hit on this option in the upper part of the guild frontpage of the guild you wish to GvG.

 

 

After clicking "Initiate Conflict" you will be forwarded to this page:

 

Here you can decide how many maximum particpants partake in a Guild Conflict (The maximum possible participants depends on your guild upgrade in that section and first and foremost the amounts of players on the guild you want to GvG against.

Number of attacks can be picked for 50, 75 or 100.

 

Note: The number of attacks determines how many RP is earned per GvG. Rating is not affected by the amount of hits placed.

 

Note: You can only initiate conflicts against guilds that have at least 4 players above lvl 50 in the guild and have 1 player that had been last time active less than 24 hours ago.

 

Next up after choosing the Conflict options you will be forwarded to the next screen, where you can check up on your settings to approve Conflict and officially start it...

 

 

OR be confronted with this message if the cooldown timer to GvG the same guild again, has not run out yet:

 

 

Note: After a Conflict against a guild has commenced and has been processed, it takes 10 days until the guild can be attacked again.

 

This concludes the first part of my GvG chapter and I hope you had a grandal time readin it.

1.2 --- What Setups & Buffs do I need to consider.

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Setups in GvG play a big part in the process of winning a conflict itself.  It is one part of the key to being successful at a GvG. I will be now going in depth into the most common builds ranging from lvls 50 and beyond, for the stats may vary but most if not all have 2-3 common goals in its BUILD.

Here is an example taken from the lvl 125-170 lvl range to illustrate the idea behind it:

ATT/DEF/DAM BUILD (Mostly used in GvG ranges of 50-400):

 

 

 

ATT/ARM/DAM BUILD (Mostly useful at 400+ GvGing):

 

 

 

 

ATT/DAM BUILD - Suicide Setup / Perfect "Offline GvG Setup" at all ranges:

 

 

As you can see you have different possibilities on how to approach a GvG. Each of these setups plays a part in it and is interesting to be used and overcome.

 

But always remember: Using Crystalline gear may become a very costly enterprise and it may become a real money sink if used excessively in GvG.

 

Now it goes without saying that Gear AND Buffs always go hand in hand and if you truly want to be an aclaimed GvGer and want to get your guild to the top of the ratings, you will need both, gear and buffs in order to achieve that. So lets take a look at the most essential buffs in GvGing:

 

The MUST HAVE buffs for minimizing losses when attacking (works vice versa when attacks are incoming):

 

The MUST HAVE buffs to crack through your targets setups in GvG (works vice versa when attacks are incoming):

 

 

Vanity Type Buffs aka. nice to have during a GvG:

 

 

Note: There are many more Vanity type buffs and those listed above are just an example.

 

Hope this cleared up a question or two regarding setups and buffs that are mandatory in GvG.

 

1.3 --- GvG: My team, my targets and me.

Spoiler

 

Now a GvG is in its idea a dynamic competition, which means, some guilds may buff up their members in conflict to make the opposing guild loose a hit in order to come out victorious. The higher the guild is rated, the higher the chance it will buff up their members, though even non-GvG guilds may buff their members up occasionally. So always watch out.

 

Note: Always check your target, before hitting it. Be VERY CAUTIOUS, if either your target, a high lvled player of said guild or the leadership of the opposing guild is online. The chances they may buff their members up right before you are about to hit them again, is exponentially high and it may cost you your conflict.

 

Note: Avoid hitting targets that are buffed up, unless your 100% sure you can beat the buffed up stats. Using a calculator before hitting a buffed up player in order to calculate if your stats suffice is one way to solve that. Another is to delay your GvG hits and wait for the hardest buffs to wear off.

 

(WARNING!: It may occur that a guild manages to keep their members buffed up 24/7, so be very careful when doing such a conflict)

 

 

 

 

Examples of unbuffed vs. buffed up targets in a GvG

 

 

 

 

 

As we could see in the upper examples a buffed up target may very well cost you a the victory in the GvG, but if mentioned techniques applied wisely I am sure you will be able to overcome these obstacles with ease.

Remember though, this often applied strategy can be used vice versa. So if youre yourself are online and realize a member of your guild is hit, you can make sure to get him the needed buffs to make sure the attacker loses a combat of the incoming attack that will turn the tables in the conflict in your favour.

 

 

Now to sum it up:

Be vigilant! Always check your buffs & your setup, your targets buffs & setup everytime before hitting, the guild`s overall members activity, aswell as any new buffs cast upon you while GvGing.

 

Note: Dont react to taunts by the opposing guilds members who may try to provoke you in an thoughtlessly emotional attack, which may very well lead you into a buffed up trap and cost you your victory!!!

 

Many Thanks to Calista for providing the geared up screenshots in the buffed/unbuffed form. <3

 

 

Stay tuned for my next chapter soon

Edited by tuvok77, 21 September 2015 - 19:53.

[johnagod]

You forgot the part where your guild chicken out and stop attacking as soon as another guild buffs their members

[tuvok77]

You forgot the part where your guild chicken out and stop attacking as soon as another guild buffs their members

Thank you for that response, even if it is slight off topic. In fact it is less "chickening" out and more of a "strategic" move. I will go ontopic on that in one of my chapters, been sick for the last week so wasnt able to complete the guide in the time I wanted it to complete.

 

Also we still finished every conflict, just at a later time. Please refrain next time of carrying your drama from FS over to the forums.

Offtopic @ johnagod: If you dont want to be hit by us, dont carry members in our GvG range. Thank you.

Edited by tuvok77, 15 September 2015 - 10:11.

[BigGrim]

Let's not flamebait in a thread being written as a Guide please.

[PrinceKash]

Will you be posting about buffs in this guide? Since it's a major part of GvG..

[Kedyn]

Will you be posting about buffs in this guide? Since it's a major part of GvG..

 

I would assume that you could point him to Chazzz's thread regarding PVP. Granted, I think we need to get someone able to pick up on Chazzz's thread and update it for the new buffs that were added to the game. I don't think you need to really take the time to put the buff information in here, but I could be wrong as well.

[tuvok77]

I will be uploading chapters 2 and 3 today... Had the 2nd finished yesterday and will upload both, chapter 2nd features what buffs are essential for GvGing etc etc. Its quite a lenghty topic so I hope the key information wont get lost on its way :3 Stay tuned.

[Egami]

For tuvok's consideration: 

 

I know "things have changed", but I'm offering this up for strategy based on some recent perusals. I'm doubtful this guide will be completed, but hopefully some others can come in and "take over". 

 

In any case, I hope the following idea is helpful to some.

 

Apart from GvG being one of the multiple aspects of FS game play, there are also multiple reasons for doing it. 

 

I think "enjoyment" should be the major focus, but that's just me. If that is your focus, then the end is not so important. All of the prizes can be used by a Guild that follows tuvok's advice will be relevant to all.

 

For those players that are looking to "profit" from their effort, I've realized that a little advice might be helpful. I put that "profit" in quotes precisely because I expect there to be tons of jealous naysayers who ignore the costs involved. 

 

That said, RP does buy items that, atm, are being constantly requested in both boxes. That has been happening repeatedly and would suggest that the RP items used to make, say, stam gain items "might" bring a "high price" in FSP. 

 

Whether the effort, stam, gold, etc is worth it or not... well, everyone would have to evaluate on their own.  If so, you might consider:

 

Creating your own Guild with three close, active friends and GvGing to your heart's content. 

 

There are a myriad of nuances to take into account: level range, times on line, etc, etc. I believe that almost everything in tuvok's guide will help you to achieve this end if you decide to pursue this strategy. If, above and beyond the GvG aspect itself, that is your objective, then I "think" it might be worthwhile to work towards that end to accumulate RP, get items and sell. 

 

Any thoughts? 

[tuvok77]

Ok its been a while but I may be able to upload the rest of the guide over the course of this weekend, if theres still interest in it