I ran into this thread a day or so ago, and was just appalled at the behavior displayed here. There is a thread about victimization in the graphics thread. Seeing it now, I see Oko already covered most of what I wanted to say though.
80gdan, your work looks similar to stuff that I first created when I first started experimenting with making avatars and finding renders given my brief background with a class in Photoshop during high school. It is nice to see you have a thing for art. That said, if you really enjoy art, you've got much more potential then you are using up right now; and you might wanna take a few things I have to say in consideration.
First off, if you wanna have a successful shop around here, you gotta be willing to make some friends and let people know who you are. I find the best way to do this is to offer 3-5 free avatars at a first come, first serve basis; limiting to 1 per person. You can add that if the person wants they can optionally pay you, and that you'd appreciate it if they put a little statement in their biography in game saying you made their avatar; but note that this would all be optional, that the avatars are just your way of getting your foot into the community door and your name out there. It also gives you a lot of PR which will go a long way. I essentially boosted my fs avatar career off of a handful of players who liked my avatars and attitude enough to constantly come after me.
In terms of advice and or tutorials, I get that this thread started off in a very bad, demeaning tone, and only progressed in a negitive direction from there; but keep in mind, regardless of whether you have any experience doing what you do or not, everyone still can learn new tricks. Personally, I always try to look up new tutorials, because compared to some great artists in history and artists I know currently, both in real life and online, I think I suck. But that is just my opinion.
I know this post is getting long, and I can only hope you've been reading it and will continue to read the last few things I want to say here. Since I've already dragged this out long enough, I highly recommend you check out this thread [http://forum.fallens...hp?f=21&t=59751] which is a compilation on the basics of everything you'd need to or should want to know before marketing yourself out there along with this tutorial [http://fc01.devianta...TheInterest.png].
Anyways, like I said, I hope you take this message into consideration, and good luck with all of your future interactions within the game, the forum, and general web graphics,
Xel.
Yeah, I felt a little sick reading all the 'famous artists' slam this new guy down, and then keep slamming him down while trying to play some kind of victim as he was responding.. (I saw this thread because I sometimes check the summon mod thread to see if I've gotten into trouble.)
Some of you people need to seriously have a re-read through this thread, take a look in the mirror and then climb down off that high horse you seem to have used that pole stuck up your 'you know where' to climb onto.
And you neil, I would have expected better behaviour from you given who your ingame founder is, clearly she needs to teach you her kind of manners a little better.
Sickening.
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