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#21 JustConix

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Posted 22 March 2021 - 19:29

That's an FSH function. Vast swathes of FSH are broken at this point. You might want to consider turning it off.

Ah, yes, the AH is a little out of sync at the moment, will let Hoof know this is causing issues and let him make a decision as what to do with it. Thanks for pointing this out PointyHair.

 

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#22 EpicPiety

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Posted 22 March 2021 - 19:29

accidental lag double post


Edited by EpicPiety, 22 March 2021 - 19:30.


#23 JustConix

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Posted 22 March 2021 - 19:46

Appreciate the response, although i do feel the reward is already high enough even if you take SH entirely out of the situation. The game isn't even scaled/balanced with high level SH in mind. with SH 480 now 500 people will be able to do content way above their gear level if they want. This really hurts demand for gear among other things. It is probably possible to 1 hit EOC with level 2000-2500 hunting setup. I can probably find a way to push it lower.

 

Above all else, please keep in mind these potions can be brewed for a poor mans penny.

Also Fumble + Flinch is a killer combo seeing now that we will have 20.3% fumble only buffs defense more when it's armoar setups that need buffs.

 

Some buffs might need to be capped with BE much like Teleport was.

 

You do raise good points and Tilley has also raised some concerns with the new update. We would still like to see this week through. Will have a team meeting next week with the compiled feedback from this update and make a decision as to what direction to take this. We want Fallen Sword to be the best game it can be so need to make sure we got this right! Thank you again for your concern, will keep you updated as this goes forward.

~The Fallen Sword Team



#24 Corrupted

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Posted 22 March 2021 - 19:57

Hello Admins,

Thank you for the update. Perhaps not what most of us expected but it is good to see that something is being done in the game.

I think you could start a poll in game and have the players select one (or many) topics they would like to see updates on. Maybe that would give you a better idea of what the general populace (most don't visit the forums) thinks and maybe that will give you better subjects to discuss later.

Thank for your time and effort


#25 michael65

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Posted 22 March 2021 - 20:13

pls note, composing potions that rival potions given with fsp offers make fsp offers less desirable. this can affect future sales of fsp, which affects fs income.

#26 michael65

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Posted 22 March 2021 - 20:15

[edit: sorry, hit post twice]

Edited by michael65, 22 March 2021 - 20:22.


#27 EpicPiety

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Posted 22 March 2021 - 20:33

You do raise good points and Tilley has also raised some concerns with the new update. We would still like to see this week through. Will have a team meeting next week with the compiled feedback from this update and make a decision as to what direction to take this. We want Fallen Sword to be the best game it can be so need to make sure we got this right! Thank you again for your concern, will keep you updated as this goes forward.

~The Fallen Sword Team

Appreciate it, i consider SH much like COA COD KE, so for me i'd even like to see it nerfed to 350... Maxing out at level 80 composing. But that is probably a pipe dream haha.

 

Cheers.



#28 Alisa

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Posted 22 March 2021 - 22:21

i like whats being done in the messaging logs. can this also be done for guild logs? can GvG logs be moved in conflict page and have its own template?


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#29 michael65

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Posted 22 March 2021 - 23:45

i like whats being done in the messaging logs. can this also be done for guild logs? can GvG logs be moved in conflict page and have its own template?


nice idea.

anyone else can't open chest "cut ruby box" ?

#30 Pardoux

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Posted 23 March 2021 - 00:54

I agree that Smashing Hammer shouldn't have been increased - it was already greatly overpowered. OK, it's "only" 20 more levels, but that's 20 more levels of insane stats boost.

 

I think that, if you ARE going to change it, you'll HAVE to do it before folk can actually start making it otherwise you'll get howls of protestations about wasted efforts .....

 

 

So, PLEASE reconsider this sooner rather than later ...


Homer : Marge, don't discourage the boy. Weaseling out of things is important to learn. It's what separates us from the animals .. except the weasel.

 

Eddie Izzard : The National Rifle Association say that guns don't kill people, people do. But I think the gun helps, you know ? I think it helps. I think just standing there going "BANG" - that's not going to kill too many people, is it ?

 

I don't mean to sound pessimistic, but it seems that everything I eat lately turns to poo ...


#31 yotekiller

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Posted 23 March 2021 - 01:03

256 character limit for messages? This isn't twitter and that is WAY too low. You can't even carry on a decent conversation with that limit. Should be at least 500 and 1,000 would be much better. Not all messages will be that long but we should at least have that option.

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#32 Hoofmaster

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Posted 23 March 2021 - 01:15

Point taken about SH - we've capped it at level 480 now.

 

Also will look to see if we can increase the message limit to 512 as well :)



#33 EpicPiety

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Posted 23 March 2021 - 01:42

Point taken about SH - we've capped it at level 480 now.

 

Also will look to see if we can increase the message limit to 512 as well :)

Awesome thanks for taking the time. You might want to also look into buff enhancer 500 aswell. increasing levels of some buffs like fumble/Crit strike/piercing strike and deflect might not be good. 192 was good enough for them.



#34 BadPenny

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Posted 23 March 2021 - 02:40

Thanks for the updates...

 

 

I would like to request that some problems that FS has been experiencing for months if not years be addressed now, and hope that posts that disagree with the party line be left (all opinions have value, not just the ones from "Yes Men"), but also that all be taken with a grain of salt and not presumed to be speaking for all.

 

I pray that the cows, if they really want to know how the community as a whole is feeling about things, will post an ingame poll, rather than listen to the forum complaints of a  just handful.  Although many good points are being made, the few should never be allowed to speak for all.   There are hundreds of lower level players and newer players that rarely if ever visit the forums....  They deserve to have their voices heard, too, rather than assuming that 1 or 2 at EoC speak for us all.


Edited by BadPenny, 23 March 2021 - 11:45.

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#35 moneypants

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Posted 23 March 2021 - 03:09

I highly advise against SH buff being increased in composing. Please keep in mind SH 525 is considered an epic level potion buff. In my opinion SH should have capped at 350 but we got 480 from 1-60. 

 

Please change this before it's too late.

 

Don't know how i feel about BE being buffed. That will make fumble among other buffs even stronger which is not good.

 

Level 203 buffs will be possible which means

 

Fumble 203 (Coupled with high level flinch this just becomes really overpowered.)

Deflect 203.

Reign of Terror 203

Extractor 2 203

Crit Strike 203

Piercing Strike 203

At first glance healer seems alright as it helps out armor sets which have long been overshadowed. Although Crit/PS will still one shot most of them.

 

Armored strike 600:

 

We quite often overflow damage not sure this would be forthcoming considering the current game scaling.

Frag Finder:

 

Really not a fan of this, this will make composing even cheaper to do. Composing is already insanely cheap for the quality of buffs you get.

And here i was thinking deflect 192 was bad enough. 



#36 Melissa3

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Posted 23 March 2021 - 04:13

Point taken about SH - we've capped it at level 480 now.

There are a very vocal few who make their opinions known in the forums.

 

Why is it you yield to them?

 

You made a decision to increase Smashing Hammer to 500 and I am sure  you would have  decided this after much research and consultation. 

 

Dont cave and change your decision based on the very  vocal few who strongly express their opinion here.

 

Please stick to your guns and leave it the way  you planned at 500.

 

Also can I thank you for extending our ability to increase our composing levels again.  After nearly 6 years at max composing  levels it gives me  a greater enthusiasm in the game to be able to develop this aspect of the game again. 

 

I look forward to finally having the ability to participate in a double composing event as I reached max before these events were introduced into the game.


Edited by Melissa3, 23 March 2021 - 05:05.


#37 Pardoux

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Posted 23 March 2021 - 06:44

Jeez, it's been so long - what were the best options for speed-composing ? LOL


Homer : Marge, don't discourage the boy. Weaseling out of things is important to learn. It's what separates us from the animals .. except the weasel.

 

Eddie Izzard : The National Rifle Association say that guns don't kill people, people do. But I think the gun helps, you know ? I think it helps. I think just standing there going "BANG" - that's not going to kill too many people, is it ?

 

I don't mean to sound pessimistic, but it seems that everything I eat lately turns to poo ...


#38 michael65

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Posted 23 March 2021 - 07:38

traditionally, there have been 4 areas of concern in fs:

1. do not harm the guilds since they aid and support players.
2. do not harm merchants, especially gold merchants, who provide services and items usually at good prices. this help players.
3. do not introduce powerful items into fs, sometimes referred to as a "win button." this can destroy the challenge of the game and thus the game.
4. yeah, buyers of fsp's get fancy consumable items but they pay the bills !

so, stick to your guns is valid. it just does not compare to the concerns and points made by the other side of the argument about SH (numbers 3 and 4).

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another matter, my problems go away in firefox browser. trouble is my device doesn't scroll down in firefox. default browser, fs is playable but has the noted problems.

#39 Filletminion

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Posted 23 March 2021 - 09:43

Lol if you need smashing hammer to get damage, you all clearly have no concept how buffs really work.

There is another way at eoc it is currently possible to get near 2 mill damage on a normal attack.

The highest Elites Super elites all can be 1 hit every single time.

The myopic focus on damage sets and buffs does not give the highest damage numbers.


Edited by Filletminion, 23 March 2021 - 09:46.


#40 gapukas

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Posted 23 March 2021 - 11:23

Please pvp update next, gvg needs a complete overhaul




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