Posted 31 March 2014 - 18:42
I am grateful for the upgrade in chests
I did the ruby amount to make sure I contributed and am happy I did my part.
Indeed, this must be a cold shower for those who didn't go for 5k kills. I guess that's the early april's fools joke here ?
If it's a glitch or bug it's the best ever lol. I ain't even mad
Posted 31 March 2014 - 18:53
Seriously! I like the rewards but bottom line is that the community didn't get the required amount of kill for Ruby!!!Don't agree with this...very bad call.
Posted 31 March 2014 - 19:01
Seriously! I like the rewards but bottom line is that the community didn't get the required amount of kill for Ruby!!!Don't agree with this...very bad call.
I'm sorta bemused here. Last time I checked the kill count, it was part way through the gold tier with a "remote" chance of reaching crystal.
This morning, I log on, and see "ruby tier unlocked" and 3 nice shiny chests in my mailbox ...
Whilst I am, of course, grateful for them, I'm surprised to see them - was ruby achieved ? - did the cows have a moment of madness ? - did the coding fail and award them mistakenly ?
If the reasoning was anything other than players reaching the 17.5 million target, then I have to say I'm a lil perturbed by the allocation of the ruby chests. Players should have to earn them, not be spoon-fed them IMO.
Would love to see a cow response here, or a screenshot of the final kill count at the end of the event ? (as of this moment, the wiki hasn't been updated to show that)
Homer : Marge, don't discourage the boy. Weaseling out of things is important to learn. It's what separates us from the animals .. except the weasel.
Eddie Izzard : The National Rifle Association say that guns don't kill people, people do. But I think the gun helps, you know ? I think it helps. I think just standing there going "BANG" - that's not going to kill too many people, is it ?
I don't mean to sound pessimistic, but it seems that everything I eat lately turns to poo ...
Posted 31 March 2014 - 19:05
It is great to receive the sexy chests. Thank you.
You do us a favour (or is it a glitch? We don't know!) and you get complained at - it seems you just cannot do the right thing by us.
The simple thing is to please be consistent - that way you do not annoy people unnecessarily. This event is a microcosm of a long standing pattern of frustrating behaviour. The event starts. After it starts we get a reward added, not fair to those who started playing with one set of assumptions. Others start playing based on a new set of assumptions - that the only way to get a royal chest will be to hit top 100. The event finishes in gold tier. We randomly (and fantastically) get ruby rewards. Those who chose to just do 3000 kills as gold tier was as far as we were going to get now feel ripped off. They played the game as it appeared in front of them, and then the rules got changed after the fact. Insanely annoying for some! (Unless they too got ruby chests anyway??? Info anyone?)
All of the people who feel irritated one way or another now would not feel annoyed if the rules as set out at the start of the event had been stuck with. We'd be getting 2 gold chests and done. People would be moaning about the community sucking - or too many events too close together.... oh wait, that happened already.
You try to provide events - you get moaned at - you give unexpected incentive , you get moaned at, you give huge bonus reward at the end of the event, you get moaned at.
Side 1: Do we as a community really think we help HCS stay motivated sometimes? We do nothing but carp and complain - it demotivates me to bother saying anything here sometimes! (Not today - Sorry DP!)
Side 2: HCS - please be consistent! The altering of parameters that people are playing within AS THEY are playing is infuriating - even if done with the best of intentions! So many blow ups over game history can be traced to you doing one thing then revising it. The elemental weapons fiasco still irks me - some guys had to kill those titans once and get a weapon? And I had to take them out 500 times? The weapons got reborn almost instantly? Urgh!!
If you do change something maybe providing a clear rationale for why would help. Even if sometimes the line is : "this better suits our business model" which is code for we're not telling you but we are protecting our bottom line. Even that would be better than unexpected changes of position/altering of targets/rewards with no explanation. In this case - "we added an incentive to the top 100 to try to increase community participation." And then "We added ruby rewards to this event in recognition of the multiple drains on players' available stamina (frag global, springtime forest) that have recently effected the community and may have blunted participation in what is normally a high priority global event for many players." Or "We felt good about the numbers and decided to reward those willing to go after this event even if it did not look like a high tier was going to be achieved - next time folks - be sure to participate - you never know what we might do!!" <--- that way you can take advantage of your unpredicatbility! LOL!
Edited by Belaric, 31 March 2014 - 19:22.
Good-bye and hello, as always.
Posted 31 March 2014 - 19:05
) made my day.!) made my day.!
Posted 31 March 2014 - 19:08
I'm sorta bemused here. Last time I checked the kill count, it was part way through the gold tier with a "remote" chance of reaching crystal.
This morning, I log on, and see "ruby tier unlocked" and 3 nice shiny chests in my mailbox ...
Whilst I am, of course, grateful for them, I'm surprised to see them - was ruby achieved ? - did the cows have a moment of madness ? - did the coding fail and award them mistakenly ?
If the reasoning was anything other than players reaching the 17.5 million target, then I have to say I'm a lil perturbed by the allocation of the ruby chests. Players should have to earn them, not be spoon-fed them IMO.
Would love to see a cow response here, or a screenshot of the final kill count at the end of the event ? (as of this moment, the wiki hasn't been updated to show that)
I disagree, to those that did their part, that worked hard, they were rewarded, whilst those who did not even bother, that only went for 3k kills as they did not think we would reach Crystal or ruby, they got what they deserved.
Thank you cows, we are all much obliged.
It seems that mostly those who did not reach ruby are the ones that are complaining, yet here they stand with over 10k current stamina...
Big sexy Sig by the one, the only, the marvelous, Beanopoly
Posted 31 March 2014 - 19:10
It is great to receive the sexy chests. Thank you.
You do us a favour (or is it a glitch? We don't know!) and you get complained at - it seems you just cannot do the right thing by us.
The simple thing is to please be consistent - that way you do not annoy people unnecessarily. This event is a microcosm of a long standing pattern of frustrating behaviour. The event starts. After it starts we get a reward added, not fair to those who started playing with one set of assumptions. Others start playing based on a new set of assumptions - that the only way to get a royal chest will be to hit top 100. The event finishes in gold tier. We randomly (and fantastically) get ruby rewards. Those who chose to just do 3000 kills as gold tier was as far as we were going to get now feel ripped off. They played the game as it appeared in front of them, and then the rules got changed after the fact. Insanely annoying for some! (Unless they too got ruby chests anyway??? Info anyone?)
All of the people who feel irritated one way or another now would not feel annoyed if the rules as set out at the start of the event had been stuck with. We'd be getting 2 gold chests and done. People would be moaning about the community sucking - or too many events too close together.... oh wait, that happened already.
You try to provide events - you get moaned at - you give unexpected incentive , you get moaned at, you give huge bonus reward at the end of the reward, you get moaned at.
Side 1: Do we as a community really think we help HCS stay motivated sometimes? We do nothing but carp and complain - it demotivates me to bother saying anything here sometimes! (Not today - Sorry DP!)
Side 2: HCS - please be consistent! The altering of parameters that people are playing withing AS THEY are playing is infuriating - even if done with the best of intentions! So many blow ups over game history can be traced to you doing one thing then revising it. The elemental weapons fiasco still irks me - some guys had to kill those titans once and get a weapon? And I had to take them out 500 times? The weapons got reborn almost instantly? Urgh!!
If you do change something maybe providing a clear rationale for why would help. Even if sometimes the line is : "this better suits our business model" which is code for we're not telling you but we are protecting our bottom line. Even that would be better than unexpected changes of position/altering of targets/rewards with no explanation. In this case - "we added an incentive to the top 100 to try to increase community participation." And then "We added ruby rewards to this event in recognition of the multiple drains on players' available stamina (frag global, springtime forest) that have recently effected the community and may have blunted participation in what is normally a high priority global event for many players." Or "We felt good about the numbers and decided to reward those willing to go after this event even if it did not look like a high tier was going to be achieved - next time folks - be sure to participate - you never know what we might do!!" <--- that way you can take advantage of your unpredicatbility! LOL!
As always, put much more eloquently (although less succinctly LOL) than I
Homer : Marge, don't discourage the boy. Weaseling out of things is important to learn. It's what separates us from the animals .. except the weasel.
Eddie Izzard : The National Rifle Association say that guns don't kill people, people do. But I think the gun helps, you know ? I think it helps. I think just standing there going "BANG" - that's not going to kill too many people, is it ?
I don't mean to sound pessimistic, but it seems that everything I eat lately turns to poo ...
Posted 31 March 2014 - 19:11
I disagree, to those that did their part, that worked hard, they were rewarded, whilst those who did not even bother, that only went for 3k kills as they did not think we would reach Crystal or ruby, they got what they deserved.
Thank you cows, we are all much obliged.
It seems that mostly those who did not reach ruby are the ones that are complaining, yet here they stand with over 10k current stamina...
Actually, I did the 5k kills, as obviously evidenced by my post saying I got the ruby chests 
LOL.
Read Belarics post for a better way of reading my post
Homer : Marge, don't discourage the boy. Weaseling out of things is important to learn. It's what separates us from the animals .. except the weasel.
Eddie Izzard : The National Rifle Association say that guns don't kill people, people do. But I think the gun helps, you know ? I think it helps. I think just standing there going "BANG" - that's not going to kill too many people, is it ?
I don't mean to sound pessimistic, but it seems that everything I eat lately turns to poo ...
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Posted 31 March 2014 - 19:18
After reading Belaric's post while I was typing.. I should be ashamed to follow in his eloquence.... but here goes
I think pretty much every complaint has been voiced already... we weren't given any advance notice, we weren't given enough time, no rewards for top 100 = bad but then good. Then rewards added for top 100 = bad, then good, and still not enough. Now rewards that everyone wanted, but HCS shouldn't have done.
I'm confused where to stand. What is left for me to complain about?????
Posted 31 March 2014 - 19:21
Actually, I did the 5k kills, as obviously evidenced by my post saying I got the ruby chests
Read Belarics post for a better way of reading my post
Now, go back and re-read my post please. as I stated quite clearly in it:
It seems that mostly those who did not reach ruby are the ones that are complaining, yet here they stand with over 10k current stamina...
Emphases around 'MOSTLY'
Thanks. :-)
Big sexy Sig by the one, the only, the marvelous, Beanopoly
Posted 31 March 2014 - 19:21
I'm not going to complain, i have qualified in the last minute, although i knew we weren't going to reach crystal tier i have done almost 19k kills.
They have made my day 
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edit. double post.
Edited by perliak, 31 March 2014 - 19:22.
Posted 31 March 2014 - 19:30
I did Gold tier and got gold.. I am not unhappy at all... For those that Got Free Ruby Congrats... Nice to know The Cows Fooled every one... Great job to all......
Posted 31 March 2014 - 19:33
I don't care about the chests even i was awarded with chests this is still bad for game to change cuz of players complaints...
More confidence has been lost to FS so much quick changes without thinking...
Better if you stick with your plans then change them in future if you think its better.. instead of changing them during the action
Edited by shindrak, 31 March 2014 - 19:37.
Posted 31 March 2014 - 19:34
Now, go back and re-read my post please. as I stated quite clearly in it:
It seems that mostly those who did not reach ruby are the ones that are complaining, yet here they stand with over 10k current stamina...
Emphases around 'MOSTLY'
Thanks. :-)
Rekluse: The simple fact is that people are allowed to choose how to employ their stamina in the game. Nobody should be frog marched into participating in a global event. The rules were there saying if you do 3K kills you get the gold tier reward, it made sense for some people to decide that the best strategy for them in game was to do 3K kills and take the expected gold tier reward as that was as far as the community was going to get. If the community had hit (or looked certain to hit) crystal tier then people would have had to make a decision about whether or not to hit 4K kills for that reward. You may not approve of that style of play - but it is a legal and viable choice, and perhaps for many the only one that makes sense.
HCS deciding to give ruby rewards despite the fact that we did not unlock that tier is manifestly unfair to those people who operated under a reasonable set of assumptions about gold tier rewards and only did 3K kills because gold tier was the maximum expected community reward.
You may dislike the fact that some people chose to play the game in that fashion. They are allowed to dislike the decision to give everyone who did 5K or more kills ruby chests despite the fact that the community did not reach that tier.
The problem here is the insanely frustrating lack of consistency from the developers. Players are not able to plan and execute their game plan and get reliable results. That is a nightmare for everyone. This time those that did 5K+ get the benefit - but who knows what will happen next time?
The players need consistency.
Good-bye and hello, as always.
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