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[Roach]

while i would thoroughly enjoy using a distil 250 on the conserve 1000  - this might be too much OP ... suggest distil 200 - we can always add 250 later

[Corrupted]

 

Hi there everyone. Hi hope you're well

 

Today we are posting these proposed changes and additions to Loyalty Potions. These changes and additions are due to a combination scouring the forums for ideas as well as some ideas of our own. NICEEEEEE

 

Existing Potions:

 

This is what exists at the moment.

 

Courageous Draft. Loyalty: 10. Nice

Adept Learner 100

Librarian 100

Animal Magnetism 100

Doubler 50

 

Adventurer Elixir. Loyalty: 10. Nice

Fury 100

Berserk 100

Enchant Weapon 100

Enchanted Armor 100

 

Auspice of Ancients. Loyalty: 50. Nice

Conserve 180

 

Scholars Draft. Loyalty: 50. Nice

Adept Learner 180

 

Sacrifice Potion. Loyalty: 100. Nice

Sacrifice 200

 

Potion of Intensity. Loyalty: 150. Nice

Doubler 1200

 

Everlasting Potion. Loyalty: 500. A bit cheaper maybe? 500 tokens for UB 200 is... Not worth?

Unbreakable 200

 

Fleeting Potion. Loyalty: 750. Nice

Light Foot 1250

 

 

Potion of Minor Global Acceleration. Loyalty 25. Nice

Global Booster 50

 

Potion of Global Acceleration. Loyalty 50. Nice

Global Booster 100

 

Potion of Major Global Acceleration. Loyalty 100. Nice.

Global Booster 150

 

Potion of Superior Global Acceleration. Loyalty 150. Nice

Global Booster 200

 

Potion of Extreme Global Acceleration. Loyalty 450. Nice. Cheaper would be nice.

Global Booster 500

 

Potion of Ultimate Global Acceleration. Loyalty 1200. Little cheaper pls? I want to help my community. TY.

Global Booster 750 

 

 

Changes: 

 

Here are a few changes we are considering to existing potions.

 

Change Potion of Intensity to: OK

Doubler 1500 Loyalty 200

 

 

Change Auspice of Ancients to: A little too cheap, very strong potion for it's price.

Conserve 440 Loyalty 100

 

 

Change Scholars Draft to: OK

Adept Learner 400 Loyalty 250

Librarian 400

 

Potion of Ultimate Global Acceleration Cost reduced to 1000.

 

 

Move Fast Track Draft from Caves and upgrade to buff level 200. Loyalty: 100.

 

 

New: 

 

Here are 13 new proposed potions and their loyalty costs.

 

Warriors Elixir. Loyalty: 750 A little cheaper might make it so that I consider it more often. TY.

 

Fury Level : 200 Duration : 120m

Berserk Level : 200 Duration : 120m

Dark Curse Level : 200 Duration : 120m

Enchanted Weapon Level : 200 Duration : 120m

Wither Level : 200 Duration : 120m

Shatter Armor Level : 200 Duration : 120m

 

 

Potion of the Quester. Loyalty:  500 OK I guess?

 

Find Item Level : 400 Duration : 120m

Quest Finder Level : 200 Duration : 120m

Quest Hunter Level : 200 Duration : 120m

 

 

Potion of Precision Strike. Loyalty:  500 Will be interesting

 

Arterial Strike Level :  1000 Duration : 120m

 

 

Forgemaster Draft. Loyalty:  150 Add Epic Craft and I'm sold

 

Epic Forge Level :  200 Duration : 120m

 

 

Magical Carapace. Loyalty:  500 A little cheaper sir ty.

 

Defensive Aura Level : 250 Duration : 120m

Layered Armor Level : 250 Duration : 120m

 

 

Hunting Lord Potion. Loyalty:  500 Less time hunting = NICE.

 

Doubler Level : 3000 Duration : 120m

 

 

Potion of the Divine Hunter. Loyalty:   1000 NICEEEEEEEE

 

Doubler Level : 5000 Duration : 120m

 

 

Potion of Divine Knowledge. Loyalty:  750 You can keep it if you want to spite all of your donation chests with these buffs. Your game your choice 8)

 

Adept Learner Level : 1000 Duration : 120m

Librarian Level : 900 Duration : 120m

 

 

Rampage Potion. Loyalty:  750 Remove Conserve or make it much lower. If AM alone, a lower price would be nice

 

Animal Magnetism Level : 500 Duration : 120m

Conserve Level : 1000 Duration : 120m

 

 

Alchemist Prized Potion. Loyalty:  750 Remember all that talk we have been having in the forums about potions being too strong sometimes???????????? Yeah? Well Distil 250 will NOT help your case with those. My 2c 8) (REMOVE DISTIL 250)

 

Distil Level : 250 Duration : 120m

Brewing Master Level :  500 Duration : 120m

 

 

Potion of Supreme Global Acceleration. Loyalty 2000 Will probably never use at this price

Global Booster 1000

 

Potion of Devilish Global Acceleration. Loyalty 3000. Will probably never use at this price

Global Booster 1500

 

Potion of Godly Global Acceleration. Loyalty 5000. Will probably never use at this price

Global Booster 2000

 

 

We look forward to your feedback on these proposals. We also welcome any additional ideas you may have.

 

~ The Fallen Sword Team

 

 

[EpicPiety]

Sorry double post.

 

Edit #2: Wouldn't a distil 250 push a Cons 1k to lv 1250 which would be 62.5% chance to use no stamina or did I read the stat numbers wrong?

That is correct

[Helo]

I actually would love the distil level 250 and the adept learner level 1k and the high level conserve as well

[lucara]

hi, i was thinking the potions that give al,lib con and distill put a  maximum cuantity of buys, like  a max of 2, so you cant used it freely, you will need to think when you want to used 

[imfaded]

I like these potions personally, being able to level even faster sounds great to someone like me who feels they have a long way to catch up to the majority of the player base. I get that for the higher level players in this thread they may not like this but I am a big fan.

[Etlebrook]

hmmmm those global boosters may create a much wider unbalance in the game. Those with a lot of $$ to donate will win the global medals; those with none or very little will never reach top 100. There is already an unbalance. Why add to it? Maybe add in one top booster at that higher price, but not three options at once.

 

I also agree that the higher distil will also unbalance the game play.

 

Edited by Etlebrook, 08 September 2021 - 18:56.

[tomjiggy67]

Instead of pushing potion levels up why not increase time/duration of potions already in Loyalty and maybe introduce some of the other skills/buffs that aren't currently out as potions such as Gambler, Guild Berserker, Immobilize Titan, Stout Hearted, Trendy, or Warcry. Limit levels and duration to start on these because they can still be bumped up in both by Distil and Brewing Master as well as a few other buffs.

 

Omit them as being influenced by Buff Enhancer because they are new.

 

Certain ones will only be cast by Guild Founders/CoFounders and those given permissions to cast them by Founders/CoFounders. Maybe include when a player purchases FSP Packet a certain percentage of the Loyalty earned is deposited in a Guild Loyalty Bank if the player belongs to a guild. Example, player earns 100 Loyalty Tokens and simultaneously his/her guild earns 10(10 %)not taking away from the players earnings. This limits the guild from using those buffs all of the time because they have to earn them.

 

We understand that it is important to boost sales, but it shouldn't be by breaking the game. FS isn't a video game to be won so quickly that players lose interest.

Edited by tomjiggy67, 08 September 2021 - 19:07.

[basti7]

uuuuuf

 

Sorry, but that Potions are expensive / overprized and not really worth it. You can get lvl 203 Buffs much cheaper at Buff market so no reason for me to buy them except of the doubler / global event doubler... Great idea to get more potions.. but no 

[Alisa]

Hi there everyone.
 
Today we are posting these proposed changes and additions to Loyalty Potions. These changes and additions are due to a combination scouring the forums for ideas as well as some ideas of our own.
 
Hunting Lord Potion. Loyalty:  500
 
Doubler Level : 3000 Duration : 120m
 
 
Potion of the Divine Hunter. Loyalty:   1000
 
Doubler Level : 5000 Duration : 120m
 
 
We look forward to your feedback on these proposals. We also welcome any additional ideas you may have.
 
~ The Fallen Sword Team

Yes omg yes!!!!

[robinhood2]

Please do not put in a distill 250 potion, the game is broken enough with ZB 150. I don't agree with the AL 1000 or lib 900( would kill the price of the celebration chest) should be lowered to 750 for both or 800 at most. The doubler levels are a great idea! I would however like to see a stalker potion lvl 500-1000 if that is possible(maybe remove the lib for stalker?. Love the idea of the brew master 500 but i think that should be a little more expensive. Also would they be bound ?

Edited by robinhood2, 08 September 2021 - 19:26.

[MGH HiddnNinja]

Make these new potions, I like them all, but make Distil not work with any of the "loyalty" potions, also make sure they are all bound.  Should be a pretty easy mechanic to add to the code!

Easy way to make the old potions still reliable and new potions not 110% broken!

[gapukas]

Warriors Elixir. Loyalty: 750 250

 

Fury Level : 200 Duration : 120m

Berserk Level : 200 Duration : 120m

Rage Level: 200 Duration : 120m +ADD

Dark Curse Level : 200 Duration : 120m

Enchanted Weapon Level : 200 Duration : 120m

Wither Level : 200 Duration : 120m

Shatter Armor Level : 200 Duration : 120m

 

 

Potion of the Quester. Loyalty:  500 250

 

Find Item Level : 400 Duration : 120m

Quest Finder Level : 200 Duration : 120m

Quest Hunter Level : 200 Duration : 120m

 

 

Potion of Precision Strike. Loyalty:  500

 

Arterial Strike Level :  1000 Duration : 120m

 

 

Forgemaster Draft. Loyalty:  150

 

Epic Forge Level :  200 Duration : 120m

Epic Craft Level : 200 Duration :120m +ADD

 

 

Magical Carapace. Loyalty:  500 250

 

Defensive Aura Level : 250 Duration : 120m

Layered Armor Level : 250 Duration : 120m

Aura of Protection Level : 250 Duration : 120m +ADD

 

 

Hunting Lord Potion. Loyalty:  500 

 

Doubler Level : 3000 Duration : 120m

 

 

Potion of the Divine Hunter. Loyalty:   1000

 

Doubler Level : 5000 Duration : 120m

 

 

Potion of Divine Knowledge. Loyalty:  750 1000

 

Adept Learner Level : 1000 Duration : 120m

Librarian Level : 900 Duration : 120m

 

 

Rampage Potion. Loyalty:  750 1000

 

Animal Magnetism Level : 500  Duration : 120m

Conserve Level : 1000 Duration : 120m

 

 

Alchemist Prized Potion. Loyalty:  750 250

 

Distil Level : 250 175 Duration : 120m

Brewing Master Level :  500 Duration : 120m

 

 

Potion of Supreme Global Acceleration. Loyalty 2000 1000

Global Booster 1000

 

Potion of Devilish Global Acceleration. Loyalty 3000 1500

Global Booster 1500

 

Potion of Godly Global Acceleration. Loyalty 5000 2000

Global Booster 2000

 

Potion of Bottomless Greed. Loyalty 500 +ADDED a new potion to list

Treasure Hunter Level : 200 +ADD

Merchant Level : 200 +ADD

Deep Pockets Level : 200 +ADD

Gloat Level : 200 +ADD

 

Edited by gapukas, 08 September 2021 - 19:50.

[wil72]

You don't make any real fsp from donation chests anymore. The game is saturated with them. I suspect those that donate will be happy enough if all of the suggested changes go through. You get a rake of Loyalty points when purchasing fsp. Ooops, are you allowed to say that? So they're quids in either way.

 

Cheers,

wil72

[wil72]

How would Loyalty potions ever not be bound?

 

Cheers,

wil72

[fugrnugget]

I agree with pretty much everything silents0ul said. Distil 250 is a big red flag for power creep, big no-no in my opinion. Even at that price BM 500 alone is already useful for both PvP and long hunts. The AL, Lib, and Conserve pots are insanely good and you could introduce them at the cost of people never using donation chests ever again. Even if you reduced all the stats to 750 like a christmas box it would kind of kill the demand for epic chests. Personally I would stick to keeping the core levelling buffs (outside doubler i guess) inside various donation chests.

[Artzik]

if you wanna add bm500 keep it in arena, do not  kill arena potions, there aren´t many useful ones there as it is

Edited by Artzik, 08 September 2021 - 19:57.

[sweetlou]

Please do not add distil 250, please it's going to break the game. Distil doesn't need to go any higher than zombie brew at 150.

FYI: Dispel Curse500 and DC375: game breakers! So, don't have any problem with more. The cat's out of the bag. I do like the big doublers and an AM500. New players will benefit more than those already at EOC. Btw, great addition to additional PvP range!

[iceman66]

 

Hi there everyone.

 

Today we are posting these proposed changes and additions to Loyalty Potions. These changes and additions are due to a combination scouring the forums for ideas as well as some ideas of our own.

 

Existing Potions:

 

This is what exists at the moment.

 

Courageous Draft. Loyalty: 10.

Adept Learner 100

Librarian 100

Animal Magnetism 100

Doubler 50

 

Adventurer Elixir. Loyalty: 10.

Fury 100

Berserk 100

Enchant Weapon 100

Enchanted Armor 100

 

Auspice of Ancients. Loyalty: 50.

Conserve 180

 

Scholars Draft. Loyalty: 50.

Adept Learner 180

 

Sacrifice Potion. Loyalty: 100.

Sacrifice 200

 

Potion of Intensity. Loyalty: 150.

Doubler 1200

 

Everlasting Potion. Loyalty: 500.

Unbreakable 200

 

Fleeting Potion. Loyalty: 750.

Light Foot 1250

 

 

Potion of Minor Global Acceleration. Loyalty 25.

Global Booster 50

 

Potion of Global Acceleration. Loyalty 50.

Global Booster 100

 

Potion of Major Global Acceleration. Loyalty 100.

Global Booster 150

 

Potion of Superior Global Acceleration. Loyalty 150.

Global Booster 200

 

Potion of Extreme Global Acceleration. Loyalty 450.

Global Booster 500

 

Potion of Ultimate Global Acceleration. Loyalty 1200.

Global Booster 750 

 

 

Changes: 

 

Here are a few changes we are considering to existing potions.

 

Change Potion of Intensity to:

Doubler 1500 Loyalty 200

 

 

Change Auspice of Ancients to:

Conserve 440 Loyalty 100

 

 

Change Scholars Draft to:

Adept Learner 400 Loyalty 250

Librarian 400

 

Potion of Ultimate Global Acceleration Cost reduced to 1000.

 

 

Move Fast Track Draft from Caves and upgrade to buff level 200. Loyalty: 100.

 

 

New: 

 

Here are 13 new proposed potions and their loyalty costs.

 

Warriors Elixir. Loyalty: 750

 

Fury Level : 200 Duration : 120m

Berserk Level : 200 Duration : 120m

Dark Curse Level : 200 Duration : 120m

Enchanted Weapon Level : 200 Duration : 120m

Wither Level : 200 Duration : 120m

Shatter Armor Level : 200 Duration : 120m

 

 

Potion of the Quester. Loyalty:  500

 

Find Item Level : 400 Duration : 120m

Quest Finder Level : 200 Duration : 120m

Quest Hunter Level : 200 Duration : 120m

 

 

Potion of Precision Strike. Loyalty:  500

 

Arterial Strike Level :  1000 Duration : 120m

 

 

Forgemaster Draft. Loyalty:  150

 

Epic Forge Level :  200 Duration : 120m

 

 

Magical Carapace. Loyalty:  500

 

Defensive Aura Level : 250 Duration : 120m

Layered Armor Level : 250 Duration : 120m

 

 

Hunting Lord Potion. Loyalty:  500

 

Doubler Level : 3000 Duration : 120m

 

 

Potion of the Divine Hunter. Loyalty:   1000

 

Doubler Level : 5000 Duration : 120m

 

 

Potion of Divine Knowledge. Loyalty:  750

 

Adept Learner Level : 1000 Duration : 120m

Librarian Level : 900 Duration : 120m

 

 

Rampage Potion. Loyalty:  750

 

Animal Magnetism Level : 500 Duration : 120m

Conserve Level : 1000 Duration : 120m

 

 

Alchemist Prized Potion. Loyalty:  750

 

Distil Level : 250 Duration : 120m

Brewing Master Level :  500 Duration : 120m

 

 

Potion of Supreme Global Acceleration. Loyalty 2000

Global Booster 1000

 

Potion of Devilish Global Acceleration. Loyalty 3000.

Global Booster 1500

 

Potion of Godly Global Acceleration. Loyalty 5000.

Global Booster 2000

 

 

We look forward to your feedback on these proposals. We also welcome any additional ideas you may have.

 

~ The Fallen Sword Team

 

 

Honestly, I love these changes! It gives new players/veterans incentive to spend and we all know that money makes this game go around.  People who choose to spend money to support the game should be rewarded and these rewards are fitting.

 

For those who think Distil 250 is not a good idea, I'm trying to understand why? Yes, we'll be able to push potions high(er), but why is that bad for the game?  I feel like players enjoy feeling strong and able to check their stats out and compare.

 

Yes, many of the chest potions will be not as powerful, but I imagine the Devs have thought about that and will adjust the donation chest awards.

 

So it's a hard YES from me and I feel this update is long overdue.  Thank you BG and the rest of HCS for your continued work.

[yghorbeviahn]

I have concerns about all those big levelling pots, and also about the Ditsil 250.

But no one is talking about Arterial Strike 1250, 125% extra XP per round (with that new Distil 250)... Isn't that potentially VERY game breaking as well?