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[EpicPiety]

Issue #1 - Composing allows you to brew practically epic potions for a poor man's penny. These high level potions ruin the game and makes hunting super boring.

Issue #2 - way too easy to farm the upper level frags. Already a topic discussing the issues with legendary over saturation.

Issue #3 - There is next to no way possible to keep giving composing more content because of the exponential growth of powerful potions it provides.

Add more issues you find with composing.

Edited by EpicPiety, 10 January 2019 - 16:21.

[BadPenny]

Common 14,094

Rare 18,999

Unique 204

Legendary 33

Crystalline 7,364

Super Elite 5,081

 

Explain the glut for Legendary frags.... I can't see it

Edited by BadPenny, 10 January 2019 - 16:20.

[EpicPiety]

Common 14,094
Rare 18,999
Unique
Super Elite 204
Legendary 33
Crystalline 7,364
Epic 5,081
 
Explain the glut for Legendary frags.... I can't see it

Most people I talk to have thousands.

[BadPenny]

Most people I talk to have thousands.

Then they are just using composing for simple leveling pots.... Those of us that regularly make useful pots (not uber, mind you, I'm far from EoC there as well)  go through uniques, SE's and Legendaries like water.... Maybe there's more available up at the top, but in my neck of the woods, things just aren't that prevalent as far as I can see.... there's several levels where nothing drops at all but rares and quest items......   And RL doesn't give me time to farm at lower levels.  

 

Why are you so concerned about things which aren't necessarily broke, just off kilter for a select few?

[EpicPiety]

Then they are just using composing for simple leveling pots.... Those of us that regularly make useful pots (not uber, mind you, I'm far from EoC there as well)  go through uniques, SE's and Legendaries like water.... Maybe there's more available up at the top, but in my neck of the woods, things just aren't that prevalent as far as I can see.... there's several levels where nothing drops at all but rares and quest items......   And RL doesn't give me time to farm at lower levels.  
 
Why are you so concerned about things which aren't necessarily broke, just off kilter for a select few?

take yourself a FI pot in a composing event and use your stamina pool. I've done so years ago and I still got plenty.

[activeh1]

i just increased mt leg telly from 2500 to 36k off last event and used 15k stam to do it ,way to easy 

[Josh1404]

i just increased mt leg telly from 2500 to 36k off last event and used 15k stam to do it ,way to easy 

15k stamina for 33,500 LE frags? Much better than I did when I tried to do that.

 

I agree with BP though. Don't see this as an issue. Easier for more guilds to provide more potions for their guild members. No problem with that at all. Cost is significant enough for some remember. Might be a comparison of a few pennies for some but not for all. Keeping costs moderately low and frags not too difficult to attain makes it a more used area of the game. Not such a bad thing.

 

But on the power level on some of these potions I do agree. Makes the game so much easier. Challenge is lacking. And PvP is so distorted because of the potions. Though I have gotten rather lazy just clicking a few buttons and knowing all will be fine. I like being lazy. Don't make me check creatures again.

[kitobas]

Issue #1 - Composing allows you to brew practically epic potions for a poor man's penny. These high level potions ruin the game and makes hunting super boring.

Issue #2 - way too easy to farm the upper level frags. Already a topic discussing the issues with legendary over saturation.

Issue #3 - There is next to no way possible to keep giving composing more content because of the exponential growth of powerful potions it provides.

Add more issues you find with composing.

I agreeing with you bro

 

players already creating topics and saying truth about this, remember how troll and few who not understanding math trying defending that crazy high composing level is equal to buffing level 175 lol

 

crazy high composing has destroying pvp, gvg, relic, hunting, old potions, very sad

[KitiaraLi]

Then they are just using composing for simple leveling pots.... Those of us that regularly make useful pots (not uber, mind you, I'm far from EoC there as well)  go through uniques, SE's and Legendaries like water....<snip>

In this case, I think you should speak for yourself, or I might get declined to say "those of us who regularly brew very useful uber pots for both ourselves and the rather big guilds we reside in have plenty of frags by simply playing the game". I can see you have a problem getting LE frags, but I can only assume that has to do with how you choose to farm and/or partake in global frag events. If I knew I'd need 'em for my composing needs, I'd farm 'em whenever possible).
Sorry to sound harsh, just got home from a rather annoying run (windy, raining and cold).

As for the OP, I can only agree that the composed pots are making the game somewhat boring, at least the hunting critters aspect of it - but I sorta recall finding that boring b4 the composed pots.. and the uber donater pots as well... maybe I just find leveling up boring? Sorry, I sidetracked myself - I was aiming to do a history lesson, so.. brace yourself; Wall of text inbound.

Imo the game took a wrong turn at some point, where as those arguing it was "to hard" got the moo moos to make it easier. First they gave better gear (LE, SE), they started having too many LE/SE sets, then the buffs gained to much of an impact, the uber pots were introduced and now composing. All while the moo moos also had to increase the critter difficulty to fit the new level of power among the "heroes of the realm" - and by doing so, they had to deal with a new round of players arguing the game was too hard. I recall more than one critter getting added to the game (not in specifics sadly) where ppl ran to the forums crying faul, and the moo moos nerfing those critters. This was an never ending circle, where better gear, critters, pots, buffs, etc just kept bringing more and more unbalance to the game - mind you, while all while the aim was to make the game balanced.
At some point I guess, the moo moos gave up, and simply offered the players the ability to gain so much power, that no critter would ever stand in their way. Ever. Again.
Want proof? Play the game, and/or notice that the most praised leveling method of today, includes a risk of dying. Not even a risk of dying, but a calculated absence of trying to avoid dying. No defense. No armor. No SSI. No nothing. Just uber buffs to get the most xp possible from each kill. When XP became so easy to gain, that lives no longer mattered - those who called the game hard, finally had their win button. And my guess is, we will never be able to take that away from 'em again. (oh, and to avoid any confusion or accusation - of course I use that button as well).

I could make the same sorta spiral of thoughts for what happened to the PvP / GvG aspect of the game - but I will refrain, mostly because I (and plenty others) have made that b4 only to get shot down by the "heroes of the realm".



PS: Should there be a player or guild named "heroes of the realm" this is in no way related to him/her/it/'em.
 

[BadPenny]

@KIt, I do understand what you mean, and I do participate in every global, but I find hunting boring as hades, farming is something I just have trouble with.  And with Uniques, there are very few in the game that are actually fraggables.... and those are mostly quest rewards at that.  I know I could go hunt Ursa for LE frags, but I choose to do real life instead, and play more engaging games that aren't mainly wash rinse and repeat ad nauseum.   

 

 

The fun parts of the game have been nerfed beyond recognition, and the almighty 1-hit kill is king (which I still don't do a big percentage of the time.....  not a complaint so much as a factoid I have learned to deal with).

 

Back on topic:

 

As for those Uber pots I can't make yet, I don't usually use them, even though there are 3 EoC composers in SA and Melissa would gladly come visit if asked.  The only times I do are if I have located a huge SE, or for streamlining 2x XP events.  I can honestly say that I have never used any pots I didn't compose myself or get from a global chest for PvP at all, since PvP itself has gotten boring with few targets in range, and GvG has all but died for lack of pillow fighting buddies.....   

 

EP makes some good points here and in his other similar topics, and most I agree with, but from where I'm sitting, these are just symptoms of a much bigger problem that makes the game seem to be dying....  

Edited by BadPenny, 13 January 2019 - 10:24.

[Windbattle]

Issue #1 - Composing allows you to brew practically epic potions for a poor man's penny. These high level potions ruin the game and makes hunting super boring.

Issue #2 - way too easy to farm the upper level frags. Already a topic discussing the issues with legendary over saturation.

Issue #3 - There is next to no way possible to keep giving composing more content because of the exponential growth of powerful potions it provides.

Add more issues you find with composing.

I brought up point 1 and 3 at the time they were first introduced and was ignored / laughed at. I couldn't have been more right about it. It literally made some skills uncastable .. since you can compose way higher than buffing. and SH 480 is very very OP. In all honesty, it could use a nerf. However, i've grown accustomed to the power and there would be growing pains if it changed. I would be up for them of course, since its a challenge.

 

However, the intention of composing was good. We have too many unused LE items and items in general in the game, and breaking them down into fragments to be used to create potions is smart. Since potions are consumed and we need more of them. The power of them + distil 150 got out of hand though.

Edited by Windbattle, 23 February 2019 - 11:40.