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[Kjellig]

Dear Thomas02 

 

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[Exilada]

I see no point in going after low level ACIA's members. If you wanna make a war at least make it fair and leave anyone under level 45 alone and still pointless war. 

[Kjellig]

I see no point in going after low level ACIA's members. If you wanna make a war at least make it fair and leave anyone under level 45 alone and still pointless war. 

I let my lower-level members fight other lower level members, its good training for both sides, I mostly fight with other people, I rarely see ACIA in EU.

However if ACIA would like peace then I'd like gogsy to speak up to me in-game, but I somewhat doubt that will happen so maybe you should look to others as being the problem

[Ravanous]

 so maybe you should look to others as being the problem

The only problem is you...

[Kjellig]

The only problem is you...

 

Sure thing kid 

[Elrog]

There was no reason listed in the original post for you Kos on Envy. Why? You want people to have to ask you about it in private so you can give a one-sided story?

[Kjellig]

There was no reason listed in the original post for you Kos on Envy. Why? You want people to have to ask you about it in private so you can give a one-sided story?

No, I can tell you very easily why I KOS'd everyone.

 

But if you're wondering about Envy, you were saying your bit how we can't do this, we can't do that, ordering us not to fight in a PVP area, well then, I'll do the same, I'll prove you that I can do this, and I don't care what happens, It's not a an unequal fight, in actual fact its a very one-sided fight against us, so you can't call it anything other than what it is: our response to you denying us from fighting.

 

Unless you want to peace things out, then yes, I keep it private, I never ask anyone to publicly ask for peace, that's just a humiliating thing to do, It's just a game, and at the end of the day, if people want to peacefully farm in TA, I'm going to show you that all you had to do was ask, we aren't randomly killing people by any means, we have clearly publicly posted who we are fighting, and I said it to you in person.

 

The choice to fight is up to you, only until you come and tell me in person that you would like our relationship between our guilds to change, nothing of what I posted is unreasonable or unfair, your choice to avoid peace talks is your lack of intelligence to realize exactly what KjjK's motive is which I have stated boldly in this entire topic.

 

Until you come to me and discuss things I won't make a big drama with you like you have done on nearly every post you talk on, I have been friendly to you in-game and just fought for entertainment, I'm rude to those who are rude to me, other than that even if we are enemies I'll always keep things civil and respect any wishes for peace or application to be white-listed so its seen by all KjjK members that you are a guild which is not to be harmed.

Edited by Kjellig, 01 December 2017 - 20:36.

[Elrog]

I did not say you can not attack. The game obviously lets you. There isn't an argument to be had there. I said I don't support it and I have no obligation to support it. You re the issue here. You started attacking first, the choice to fight was yours. Last time you were on TA you were not interested in discussing. You flat out said Envy will never be whitelisted. You are changing your story. You founded the guild for the purpose of having wars. You said that.

Edited by Elrog, 01 December 2017 - 20:55.

[Kjellig]

I did not say you can not attack. The game obviously lets you. There isn't an argument to be had there. I said I don't support it and I have no obligation to support it. You re the issue here. You started attacking first, the choice to fight was yours. Last time you were on TA you were not interested in discussing. You flat out said Envy will never be whitelisted. You are changing your story. You founded the guild for the purpose of having wars. You said that.

No I never said that.

I actually said to you while you were in the safezone in TA before any big wars ever started with you that you could have peace at any point.

 

But you obviously ignored that part right?

[Elrog]

Yes actually, you did say that. If you want to dispute it, fine. Good luck convincing everyone the war is our fault when you are the ones attacking.

[Kjellig]

Yes actually, you did say that. If you want to dispute it, fine. Good luck convincing everyone the war is our fault when you are the ones attacking.

Then why are you saying I don't offer peace when I did.

And finally I told you exactly my reason, I don't care who's fault it is, but I care that you're trying to put words in my mouth and also trying to lie to accuse me of doing things.

 

There has been fault on both sides and I was just as free to declare my war on you as you were to spread your opinions.

I had a freedom to do this, since this is a game and that is a pvp zone.

 

But yes, I never denied you peace, you yourself never asked for it or gave me an answer.

[Elrog]

I am not taking any fault in this. I stated on opinion. You attacked people. It isn't about who is free (able) to do what, that is irrelevant to morals.

 

I stated that I do not want a war. You still attacked. You are making up your story as you go.

[Kjellig]

I am not taking any fault in this. I stated on opinion. You attacked people. It isn't about who is free (able) to do what, that is irrelevant to morals.

 

I stated that I do not want a war. You still attacked. You are making up your story as you go.

I'm not?

What morals?

It's a game, it's not real life, in a real world sense the tables would be turned but your trying to take my rights to fight in a pvp zone, surely that's more like logic? expect to be attacked in a PVP zone especially if I've marked you as an enemy.

 

I was going to see whether you would actually set your own big-headed views aside and ask for peace just like everyone else, but no, princess Elrog needs special treatment and therefore does this by now trying to order everyone not to take KjjK members on guild runs, that's pathetic, "opinions" lol. 

[Elrog]

Trying to distinguish a game from real life is a false dichotomy. People in who pay games are still real people. Saying "its a game" is a terrible excuse to go around bullying people.

 

At what point did I try to take your right to fight in a pvp zone? I said that I do not agree with it and tried to reason with you about it. I did not say lets start a petition to get rid of TA.

 

I did not order anyone. I stated that Envy members don't bring aggressive KjjK members on runs. It was a statement of how things already are and have been (stated for the good of new players), not a demand.

 

You still continue attacking me personally instead of arguing with facts.

 

You Attacked first and then want to sort things out later. It seems like you want people to come to you and ask "can i have peace" after the fact. You will have it your way then. If you want to prove to me that you are being reasonable, answer this simple question (without laying your own twisted conditions to it):

 

Will you stop attacking Envy members on TA if they do not want to fight?

Edited by Elrog, 01 December 2017 - 22:04.

[Kjellig]

Trying to distinguish a game from real life is a false dichotomy. People in who pay games are still real people. Saying "its a game" is a terrible excuse to go around bullying people.

 

At what point did I try to take your right to fight in a pvp zone? I said that I do not agree with it and tried to reason with you about it. I did not say lets start a petition to get rid of TA.

 

I did not order anyone. I stated that Envy members don't bring aggressive KjjK members on runs. It was a statement of how things already are and have been (stated for the good of new players), not a demand.

 

You still continue attacking me personally instead of arguing with facts.

 

You Attacked first and then want to sort things out later. It seems like you want people to come to you and ask "can i have peace" after the fact. You will have it your way then. If you want to prove to me that you are being reasonable, answer this simple question (without laying your own twisted conditions to it):

 

Will you stop attacking Envy members on TA if they do not want to fight?

Hardly bullying if i offered peace at all times.

and Elrog yes I would've stopped all those days ago when I asked you if you wanted it.

 

I haven't attacked you personally, I've attacked you persona on this forums and defended myself against your points simply stating how they're utterly ridiculous and trust me I'm not the only one thinking that, you're just being foolish trying to stir up drama.

 

But does that make me in the wrong because I kept on attacking even after offering you peace which you blatantly ignored then if you clearly saw me say it and didn't respond for peace.

 

Clearly in that case, peace wasn't YOUR motive.

It helped prove my point that even when I offer you everything which you blabbed on about in our forums posts you didn't care to respond to it, took notice and put it aside.

 

You only proved my point right, that I did everything I should've done as according to my post.

And no I don't need peace and I want to fight, so I'm not afraid if you decline peace cause I simply did it for the purpose of my reasoning, if you want we don't have to have peace, I don't mind fighting anyone and it further solidify my point that you want to fight rather than be peaceful.

 

I simply offered it to you to see exactly how you would've played out the scenario, if you don't believe me you can ask anyone, not only in my guild but there were other people who I told that I would do this and see if you really read my post and understood my full intentions, that's why from the very start of this conversation I called it "MY RESPONSE".

 

It clearly proved my point and showed you that it was in your hands to have peace, so there was no real reason for you to scream on the forums for it.

 

And to finally answer what I've said several times, yes I will stop attacking Envy members on TA if you do not want to fight.

That was all it needed from when I spoke to you at the very START of all this, if YOU fully read my post and my points I made you would've known that.

[Kjellig]

As I repeat here from the other thread:

 

The issue has now be discussed in-game and the war between KjjK and Envy has now ended.

All members of Envy are free to come into TA without the worry of being attacked directly by KjjK members.

[Thomas02]

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Edited by Thomas02, 01 December 2017 - 23:24.