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#41 lucara

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Posted 08 September 2021 - 20:44

 you should add stronger potions with guild buffer and buff master, there has to be more people to sell buff,  and the  potions that we have are weak, people rarely sell them, if we improve the save of stam while buffing more people will sell buff 


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#42 TheCount

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Posted 08 September 2021 - 21:11

 

For those who think Distil 250 is not a good idea, I'm trying to understand why? Yes, we'll be able to push potions high(er), but why is that bad for the game?  I feel like players enjoy feeling strong and able to check their stats out and compare.

 

Terrorize 750. Flinch 625. Force Shield 500. Chi Strike 750. Armor Boost, Sanctuary, Coordinated Defense all 700. Find Item 1600. These are potions off the top of my head that are very powerful even before using Brew Master. The potions should be balanced around the game, not the other way around.

 

On the topic of a level 500 Brewing Master, didn't this already exist and hasn't been re-released? I assume there is a reason for that. While I like the idea of the huge increase in the duration of Ladder potions and other long duration PvP focused potions like the Armor potion in the Xmas boxes... This could be a bit much. Not really 100% against it but I think the Arena Brew Master potion does exactly as necessary and not over the top.

 

To be honest with the rest of the buffs I can't be bothered to argue against them. If they were implemented I would use some of them. Just hope you have some plan for your donation chests going forward that don't involve just increasing the buff levels even more, although it sounds like the allegiance token shop update would essentially replace these all together and I'm not necessarily against that.


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#43 kloper

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Posted 08 September 2021 - 21:12

Potion of Divine Knowledge. Loyalty:  750
 
Adept Learner Level : 750 Duration : 120m 
Librarian Level : 750 Duration : 120m
 
 
Rampage Potion. Loyalty:  750
 
Animal Magnetism Level : 500 Duration : 120m
Conserve Level : 750 Duration : 120m
 
 
Alchemist Prized Potion. Loyalty:  750
 
Distil Level : 200 Duration : 120m
Brewing Master Level :  500 Duration : 120m

Way to high level on theese 4, lowered them to a more normal (still sick benefit).
In case you use the levels you sugested you gonna make Chests/Containers drop in value and less people will do donations during the "Sales" :) 

The other ones looks great even if many of them are potions i probably never will use
 


#44 Ouiounon

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Posted 08 September 2021 - 21:17

 

New: 
 
Here are 13 new proposed potions and their loyalty costs.
 
Warriors Elixir. Loyalty: 750
 
Fury Level : 200 Duration : 120m
Berserk Level : 200 Duration : 120m
Dark Curse Level : 200 Duration : 120m
Enchanted Weapon Level : 200 Duration : 120m
Wither Level : 200 Duration : 120m
Shatter Armor Level : 200 Duration : 120m
 
Way too expensive for buffs that can all be cast easily with Buff Enhancer. I would consider changing them all to level 350 or so. That or hugely reduce the cost of the potion.
 
Potion of the Quester. Loyalty:  500
 
Find Item Level : 400 Duration : 120m
Quest Finder Level : 200 Duration : 120m
Quest Hunter Level : 200 Duration : 120m
 
Again, way too expensive here when you can get a FI 800 potion in the AH for 10k gold or less, or a FI 1000 potion in the bazaar for 40k. Quest Finder and Hunter are easily available buffs and can already get level 200+ with Buff Enhancer. Increase the Find Item level to 1250 and add Lady Luck 350 or something.
 
Potion of Precision Strike. Loyalty:  500
 
Arterial Strike Level :  1000 Duration : 120m
 
This is fine I guess, don't have much of an opinion here
 
Forgemaster Draft. Loyalty:  150
 
Epic Forge Level :  200 Duration : 120m
 
Wouldn't hurt to raise it to level 250, or combine Epic Craft and change the levels to 225.
 
Magical Carapace. Loyalty:  500
 
Defensive Aura Level : 250 Duration : 120m
Layered Armor Level : 250 Duration : 120m
 
Don't know why these buffs are paired together (I think there is a similar arena pot) when their uses are completely different and barely ever work well together from my experience. Either way I think this is way too expensive considering these buffs at level 175-200 aren't that much different.
 
Hunting Lord Potion. Loyalty:  500
 
Doubler Level : 3000 Duration : 120m
 
I don't have enough stamina to have an opinion on this lol
 
Potion of the Divine Hunter. Loyalty:   1000
 
Doubler Level : 5000 Duration : 120m
 
Same as above
 
Potion of Divine Knowledge. Loyalty:  750
 
Adept Learner Level : 1000 Duration : 120m
Librarian Level : 900 Duration : 120m
 
Eek, now why would you go proposing these level buffs as if level 750 potions aren't crazy enough?! Reduce these to level 550 each. Or 600 at the very most. And double the cost I would say.
 
 
Rampage Potion. Loyalty:  750
 
Animal Magnetism Level : 500 Duration : 120m
Conserve Level : 1000 Duration : 120m
 
Again level 1000 Conserve - why?! Reduce it to level 600 and double the cost.
 
Alchemist Prized Potion. Loyalty:  750
 
Distil Level : 250 Duration : 120m
Brewing Master Level :  500 Duration : 120m
 
 
I don't think Distil 250 should be a thing. The Zombie Brew potion is already powerful enough. I would reduce the Brewing Master level to 350 and set it at 500 tokens.
 
Potion of Supreme Global Acceleration. Loyalty 2000
Global Booster 1000
 
 
Cool but wayyy too expensive?! You're talking about adding level 1000 conserve for less than half of this? LOL
 
Potion of Devilish Global Acceleration. Loyalty 3000.
Global Booster 1500
 
Don't we already have this for 1200 tokens?
 
Potion of Godly Global Acceleration. Loyalty 5000.
Global Booster 2000
 
Too expensive again. 5000 tokens?! Why do you think Global Booster is deserving of these prices lol
 

 


Edited by Ouiounon, 08 September 2021 - 21:19.


#45 IVANIDAS

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Posted 08 September 2021 - 21:17

 

Hi there everyone.
 
Today we are posting these proposed changes and additions to Loyalty Potions. These changes and additions are due to a combination scouring the forums for ideas as well as some ideas of our own.
 
Existing Potions:
 
This is what exists at the moment.
 
Courageous Draft. Loyalty: 10.
Adept Learner 100
Librarian 100
Animal Magnetism 100
Doubler 50
 
Adventurer Elixir. Loyalty: 10.
Fury 100
Berserk 100
Enchant Weapon 100
Enchanted Armor 100
 
Auspice of Ancients. Loyalty: 50.
Conserve 180
 
Scholars Draft. Loyalty: 50.
Adept Learner 180
 
Sacrifice Potion. Loyalty: 100.
Sacrifice 200
 
Potion of Intensity. Loyalty: 150.
Doubler 1200
 
Everlasting Potion. Loyalty: 500.
Unbreakable 200
 
Fleeting Potion. Loyalty: 750.
Light Foot 1250
 
 
Potion of Minor Global Acceleration. Loyalty 25.
Global Booster 50
 
Potion of Global Acceleration. Loyalty 50.
Global Booster 100
 
Potion of Major Global Acceleration. Loyalty 100.
Global Booster 150
 
Potion of Superior Global Acceleration. Loyalty 150.
Global Booster 200
 
Potion of Extreme Global Acceleration. Loyalty 450.
Global Booster 500
 
Potion of Ultimate Global Acceleration. Loyalty 1200.
Global Booster 750 
 
 
Changes: 
 
Here are a few changes we are considering to existing potions.
 
Change Potion of Intensity to:
Doubler 1500 Loyalty 200
 
 
Change Auspice of Ancients to:
Conserve 440 Loyalty 100
 
 
Change Scholars Draft to:
Adept Learner 400 Loyalty 250
Librarian 400
 
Potion of Ultimate Global Acceleration Cost reduced to 1000.
 
 
Move Fast Track Draft from Caves and upgrade to buff level 200. Loyalty: 100.
 
 
New: 
 
Here are 13 new proposed potions and their loyalty costs.
 
Warriors Elixir. Loyalty: 750 (1k tokens)
 
Fury Level : 200 Duration : 120m
Berserk Level : 200 Duration : 120m
Dark Curse Level : 200 Duration : 120m
Enchanted Weapon Level : 200 Duration : 120m
Wither Level : 200 Duration : 120m
Shatter Armor Level : 200 Duration : 120m
 
 
Potion of the Quester. Loyalty:  500 (good)
 
Find Item Level : 400 Duration : 120m
Quest Finder Level : 200 Duration : 120m
Quest Hunter Level : 200 Duration : 120m
 
 
Potion of Precision Strike. Loyalty:  500 (good but reduce time on buff)
 
Arterial Strike Level :  1000 Duration : 120m
 
 
Forgemaster Draft. Loyalty:  150 (Make it 500 tokens)
 
Epic Forge Level :  200 Duration : 120m
 
 
Magical Carapace. Loyalty:  500 (good)
 
Defensive Aura Level : 250 Duration : 120m
Layered Armor Level : 250 Duration : 120m
 
 
Hunting Lord Potion. Loyalty:  500 (2k tokens)
 
Doubler Level : 3000 Duration : 120m
 
 
Potion of the Divine Hunter. Loyalty:   1000 (make it 5k tokens)
 
Doubler Level : 5000 Duration : 120m
 
 
Potion of Divine Knowledge. Loyalty:  750 (make it 2.5k tokens)
 
Adept Learner Level : 1000 Duration : 120m
Librarian Level : 900 Duration : 120m
 
 
Rampage Potion. Loyalty:  750 (make it 1k tokens)
 
Animal Magnetism Level : 500 Duration : 120m
Conserve Level : 1000 Duration : 120m
 
 
Alchemist Prized Potion. Loyalty:  750 (Make it 1k tokens, reduce distill to lvl 150-200 as we have a zombie brew lvl 100 already)
 
Distil Level : 250 Duration : 120m
Brewing Master Level :  500 Duration : 120m
 
 
Potion of Supreme Global Acceleration. Loyalty 2000 (good)
Global Booster 1000
 
Potion of Devilish Global Acceleration. Loyalty 3000. (good)
Global Booster 1500
 
Potion of Godly Global Acceleration. Loyalty 5000. (good)
Global Booster 2000
 
 
We look forward to your feedback on these proposals. We also welcome any additional ideas you may have.
 
~ The Fallen Sword Team

 

Overall thank you for finally deciding to update the shop. The token problems shouldnt be an issue for those who p2w and even for those freebies, they could have saved up tokens from daily quests and the daily tokens. Please take your time to decide whats the best lvsl for all this. Dont make them below the current pots ingame nor make them OP over chests in game. Find a balance and take your time. We dont need this update right away. Make draft optimal suggestion before doing this. 


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#46 Ouiounon

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Posted 08 September 2021 - 21:18

I have concerns about all those big levelling pots, and also about the Ditsil 250.

But no one is talking about Arterial Strike 1250, 125% extra XP per round (with that new Distil 250)... Isn't that potentially VERY game breaking as well?

 

It doesn't work when Conserve activates so I don't think it is all that worth it tbh



#47 DrSerigala

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Posted 08 September 2021 - 21:23

Changes on current pots are fine but I will just give my opinion on new pots , 
My reply in Red
 
New: 
 
Here are 13 new proposed potions and their loyalty costs.
 
Warriors Elixir. Loyalty: 750
 
Fury Level : 200 Duration : 120m
Berserk Level : 200 Duration : 120m
Dark Curse Level : 200 Duration : 120m
Enchanted Weapon Level : 200 Duration : 120m
Wither Level : 200 Duration : 120m
Shatter Armor Level : 200 Duration : 120m
 
This is ok 
 
Potion of the Quester. Loyalty:  500
 
Find Item Level : 400 Duration : 120m
Quest Finder Level : 200 Duration : 120m
Quest Hunter Level : 200 Duration : 120m
Make  Find Item level 1200 and this will be considerable since we have FI 1000 in AH and higher lvls from chests 
 
Potion of Precision Strike. Loyalty:  500
 
Arterial Strike Level :  1000 Duration : 120m
Ok 
 
Forgemaster Draft. Loyalty:  150
 
Epic Forge Level :  200 Duration : 120m
ok
 
Magical Carapace. Loyalty:  500
 
Defensive Aura Level : 250 Duration : 120m
Layered Armor Level : 250 Duration : 120m
Ok
 
Hunting Lord Potion. Loyalty:  500
 
Doubler Level : 3000 Duration : 120m
yes please !
 
Potion of the Divine Hunter. Loyalty:   1000
 
Doubler Level : 5000 Duration : 120m
yes please !
 
Potion of Divine Knowledge. Loyalty:  750
 
Adept Learner Level : 1000 Duration : 120m
Librarian Level : 900 Duration : 120m
Big NO this is unreal numbers i would say AL750 LIB750  not anymore .
this should be real rare ! like quest reward only
 
Rampage Potion. Loyalty:  750
 
Animal Magnetism Level : 500 Duration : 120m
Conserve Level : 1000 Duration : 120m
Ok
 
Alchemist Prized Potion. Loyalty:  750
 
Distil Level : 250 Duration : 120m
Brewing Master Level :  500 Duration : 120m
No for this , keep highest Brewing Master comes from Arena shop ! or lvl 500 from chest
also distil 250 is game killer i would say keep it 150 from Zombie brew
 
Potion of Supreme Global Acceleration. Loyalty 2000
Global Booster 1000
Thats ok 
Potion of Devilish Global Acceleration. Loyalty 3000.
Global Booster 1500
Thats ok 
Potion of Godly Global Acceleration. Loyalty 5000.
Global Booster 2000
Thats ok 

Agree with shindrak idea, I even suggest to lower the AL LIBUR pots even more or triple the tokens price since it is basically make the Christmas Box Worthless

#48 Pardoux

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Posted 08 September 2021 - 21:37

Personally, I think the few pots that are being mentioned as very overpowered ARE very overpowered but I disagree that they will hurt donations.

After all, most donations get a lot of allegiance tokens too, so, from a business perspective, which is how THEY have to look at it, it makes sense.  Players still get epic pots PLUS, NOW, very useful Allegiance Tokens. So, donating players win, and the cows theoretically win too.

That said, I still think that the AL / LIB / CONS / Distil etc proposed changes are FAR too much.

What happened to bringing in all the NEW potion/buffs that are listed in skills, but not yet implemented ? - wouldn't this have been a good way to do it ?


Homer : Marge, don't discourage the boy. Weaseling out of things is important to learn. It's what separates us from the animals .. except the weasel.

 

Eddie Izzard : The National Rifle Association say that guns don't kill people, people do. But I think the gun helps, you know ? I think it helps. I think just standing there going "BANG" - that's not going to kill too many people, is it ?

 

I don't mean to sound pessimistic, but it seems that everything I eat lately turns to poo ...


#49 shindrak

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Posted 08 September 2021 - 22:37

Can i say most of players who like these pots have over 100k token in the bank ?  ;)

 

 I would Suggest make some of these pots overpowered pots as reward of reaching specific medal tier  Bronze,Gold,Crystal, Ruby and Diamond... make the game more active in all aspects this way

 The higher tier the bigger the pot is !

 

or maybe unlock them from Loyalty token shop once you reach like Ruby or Diamond medal ..



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Posted 08 September 2021 - 22:49

 

 I would Suggest make some of these pots overpowered pots as reward of reaching specific medal tier  Bronze,Gold,Crystal, Ruby and Diamond... make the game more active in all aspects this way

 The higher tier the bigger the pot is !

 

or maybe unlock them from Loyalty token shop once you reach like Ruby or Diamond medal ..

 

The "higher the medal level, the higher the loyalty potion level" will only benefit long-established players.

I'm all in favour of encouraging diversity in-game, but not sure this method would fly.


Homer : Marge, don't discourage the boy. Weaseling out of things is important to learn. It's what separates us from the animals .. except the weasel.

 

Eddie Izzard : The National Rifle Association say that guns don't kill people, people do. But I think the gun helps, you know ? I think it helps. I think just standing there going "BANG" - that's not going to kill too many people, is it ?

 

I don't mean to sound pessimistic, but it seems that everything I eat lately turns to poo ...


#51 shindrak

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Posted 08 September 2021 - 22:56

The "higher the medal level, the higher the loyalty potion level" will only benefit long-established players.

I'm all in favour of encouraging diversity in-game, but not sure this method would fly.

And without medal method  Still benefit long established players who just level without doing any other activity...

What is the benefit from bound potion though specially for EOC players ? 

 

This method will benefit the new players more than ever.



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Posted 08 September 2021 - 23:02

Please see below for my thoughts in orange. There are a few things that I had to assume as the OP didn't mention them: all of the potions will be bound, they cannot be broken or leached, they will listen to/follow our feedback and they are referencing https://forums.hunte...6861&hl=loyalty.

If you don't read all of my comments there is one takeaway that I cannot stress: Distil cannot go higher than 150. This is why the game has even more OP potions than intended.


Hi there everyone.

Today we are posting these proposed changes and additions to Loyalty Potions. These changes and additions are due to a combination scouring the forums for ideas as well as some ideas of our own.

Existing Potions:

This is what exists at the moment.

Courageous Draft. Loyalty: 10.
Adept Learner 100
Librarian 100
Animal Magnetism 100
Doubler 50

Adventurer Elixir. Loyalty: 10.
Fury 100
Berserk 100
Enchant Weapon 100
Enchanted Armor 100

Auspice of Ancients. Loyalty: 50.
Conserve 180

Scholars Draft. Loyalty: 50.
Adept Learner 180

Sacrifice Potion. Loyalty: 100.
Sacrifice 200

Potion of Intensity. Loyalty: 150.
Doubler 1200

Everlasting Potion. Loyalty: 500.
Unbreakable 200

Fleeting Potion. Loyalty: 750.
Light Foot 1250


Potion of Minor Global Acceleration. Loyalty 25.
Global Booster 50

Potion of Global Acceleration. Loyalty 50.
Global Booster 100

Potion of Major Global Acceleration. Loyalty 100.
Global Booster 150

Potion of Superior Global Acceleration. Loyalty 150.
Global Booster 200

Potion of Extreme Global Acceleration. Loyalty 450.
Global Booster 500

Potion of Ultimate Global Acceleration. Loyalty 1200.
Global Booster 750


Changes:

Here are a few changes we are considering to existing potions.

Change Potion of Intensity to:
Doubler 1500 Loyalty 200
This is fine. I could see an argument to keeping the Loyalty cost at 150.

Change Auspice of Ancients to:
Conserve 440 Loyalty 100
440 X 1.15 (Zombie Brew) = 506. Seems to be okay and balanced.

Change Scholars Draft to:
Adept Learner 400 Loyalty 250
Librarian 400
Seems to be okay and balanced.

Potion of Ultimate Global Acceleration Cost reduced to 1000.
Seems to be okay and balanced.

Move Fast Track Draft from Caves and upgrade to buff level 200. Loyalty: 100.


New:

Here are 13 new proposed potions and their loyalty costs.

Warriors Elixir. Loyalty: 750

Fury Level : 200 Duration : 120m
Berserk Level : 200 Duration : 120m
Dark Curse Level : 200 Duration : 120m
Enchanted Weapon Level : 200 Duration : 120m
Wither Level : 200 Duration : 120m
Shatter Armor Level : 200 Duration : 120m
200 X 1.15 (Zombie Brew) = 230. This also seems okay to me. Could see the duration lowered to 60m and cost cut to 250.

Potion of the Quester. Loyalty: 500

Find Item Level : 400 Duration : 120m
Quest Finder Level : 200 Duration : 120m
Quest Hunter Level : 200 Duration : 120m
400 X 1.15 (Zombie Brew) = 460. 200 X 1.15 (Zombie Brew) = 230. This seems fine. Increase Find Item to 800-1000? And keep the Loyalty cost at 500.

Potion of Precision Strike. Loyalty: 500

Arterial Strike Level : 1000 Duration : 120m
1,000 X 1.15 (Zombie Brew) = 1,150. Does Arterial Strike even have a use anymore? Seems like a pointless addition. I would remove this - add a different buff in this place.

Forgemaster Draft. Loyalty: 150

Epic Forge Level : 200 Duration : 120m
200 X 1.15 (Zombie Brew) = 230. Why just Epic Forge? Feels weird. Even if Epic Craft 200 was added it feels strange and not useful. I would remove this - add a different buff in this place.

Magical Carapace. Loyalty: 500

Defensive Aura Level : 250 Duration : 120m
Layered Armor Level : 250 Duration : 120m
250 X 1.15 (Zombie Brew) = 287.5. This is a very strange combination and you would only use one of these buffs (unless you are running a hybrid). I'm not sure how to change this as is. My suggestion would be to have Defensive Aura 250 + Shield Wall 250 as one pot and Layered Armor 250 + Armor Boost 250 as another. Again, not a lot of use as there are eggs out there. Make the Loyalty cost 250? Probably best to remove this as well.

Hunting Lord Potion. Loyalty: 500

Doubler Level : 3000 Duration : 120m
3,000 X 1.15 (Zombie Brew) = 3,450. I mean, this is great because you will spend less time hunting. I'm content with this - feels balanced.

Potion of the Divine Hunter. Loyalty: 1000

Doubler Level : 5000 Duration : 120m
5,000 X 1.15 (Zombie Brew) = 5,750. Wow, this is a Doubler. I mean, this is great because you will spend less time hunting. For convenience, maybe increase the price to 1,500 Loyalty Tokens?

Potion of Divine Knowledge. Loyalty: 750

Adept Learner Level : 1000 Duration : 120m
Librarian Level : 900 Duration : 120m
1,000 X 1.15 (Zombie Brew) = 1,150. 900 X 1.15 (Zombie Brew) = 1,035. Holy Cow, these are high levels. This makes Xmas and Celebration chests inferior. Adept Learner feels too strong as it is increasing by 250 levels. I think I am okay with Librarian as it is only increased by 50 levels. I would drop Adept Learner to 850 and keep Librarian as is. I would also increase the Loyalty token cost to 1,000-1,500.

Rampage Potion. Loyalty: 750

Animal Magnetism Level : 500 Duration : 120m
Conserve Level : 1000 Duration : 120m
500 X 1.15 (Zombie Brew) = 575. 1,000 X 1.15 (Zombie Brew) = 1,150. Animal Magnetism at 500 is okay. Conserve at 1,000 is 250 levels over the next highest chest (Xmas). I would either drop Conserve to 750 or do a slight increase to 850. I would also increase the Loyalty token cost to 1,000-1,500.

Alchemist Prized Potion. Loyalty: 750

Distil Level : 250 Duration : 120m
Brewing Master Level : 500 Duration : 120m
No. This pot is a hard no. Zombie Brew at 150 is already too high and has caused issues within the game (looking at you Easter Basket). To change this, I would lower Distil to 150 (matches Zombie Brew) and also lower Brewing Master to 250. Having this above 300 would ruin the arena market and you would not be able to turn a profit playing the arena. The easiest solution would be remove this pot as it is way too strong. It would also adversely impact every aspect of the game that uses any sort of potion. Please no. No.

Potion of Supreme Global Acceleration. Loyalty 2000
Global Booster 1000
1,000 X 1.15 (Zombie Brew) = 1,150. No duration listed on this - I assume 60m. The game currently has Potion of Masterful Global Acceleration (Global Booster 1,500 for 60m for 1,200 Loyalty tokens). So, this potion needs to be lowered to 750 Loyalty tokens.

Potion of Devilish Global Acceleration. Loyalty 3000.
Global Booster 1500
1,500 X 1.15 (Zombie Brew) = 1,725. The game currently has Potion of Masterful Global Acceleration (Global Booster 1,500 for 60m for 1,200 Loyalty tokens). So, this potion is already in the game.

Potion of Godly Global Acceleration. Loyalty 5000.
Global Booster 2000
2,000 X 1.15 (Zombie Brew) = 2,300. The scaling on the Loyalty cost on this from level 1,500 to 2,000 is wild. Lower the price to 1,500 Loyalty Tokens.

We look forward to your feedback on these proposals. We also welcome any additional ideas you may have.

~ The Fallen Sword Team


Edited by Tilley10, 10 September 2021 - 19:53.


#53 SuOkWinter

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Posted 09 September 2021 - 00:02

No need to have higher brews than chests.  Game is easy enough.  Make it harder is the key.



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Posted 09 September 2021 - 03:34

I never really understood why there are low level pots in the loyalty section, I just assume
that the cows know how many get bought and therefore they must be worth it to someone for
some reason.

I'm all for these upgrades. As Lou mentioned, now that the DC's have been nerfed there is no
issue introducing higher level Distils. I think the people saying that it's "game breaking"
are probably just resisting change. Same for the levelling pots. I think it will be great to
finally have things worth buying from the loyalty section. Again, the cows probably are fully
aware of how many tokens people are sitting on. I think Allegiance Tokens should be
a big deal and you should get really useful things for your commitment.

Levellers with large stam banks have been crying out for higher level doublers for years.
Not only will they reduce the time we spend hunting, they will reduce load on the servers.

I agree that the Arterial Strike one is a bit odd. It's usefulness is such an edge case. But
it would mitigate against 2% miss if you are not suicide hunting. Given the current lack of
gold I imagine that more people are collecting gold from their hunts. There are AS pots
floating around from the caves if memory serves so clearly someone is using them.
Theoretically it might enable multi-hit setups. You'd still use the same number of swings,
just less combats. Not sure you could pull that off for an entire hunt though and who wants
to be changing gear midway through a hunt? If multi-hitting becomes viable it would also
reduce load on the servers. Anyway I don't consider this "game breaking", just adding
variety.

I think it's fair to say that the arena needs some love. No doubt the cows have that in hand
for the future. I wouldn't expect these changes to have too much effect on arena pot sales.
They are expensive enough that most people are going to have to think twice before using
them. There can't be that many players that can splurge on these type of pots with impunity.

I have the impression from recent updates that the cows are trying to make levelling
harder. It's entirely possible that at some point in the future we might need these pots.

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Posted 09 September 2021 - 03:47

I like the improvements to the existing pots (but not the cost aspect :P). I agree with the comment on Distil 250 being unnecessary.


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Posted 09 September 2021 - 03:47

Why do we need AL and Conserve 1000? It’s already easy enough to level in this game. And please no distil 250

These are great additions to give more EoC players that opportunity to work on getting top player bronze medal and beyond. I was hoping for a higher distil  maybe 180 or 200, yet will not complain at a 250  :) 

 

Real nice token costs too! 



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Posted 09 September 2021 - 04:04

These are great additions to give more EoC players that opportunity to work on getting top player bronze medal and beyond. I was hoping for a higher distil  maybe 180 or 200, yet will not complain at a 250  :)

 

Real nice token costs too! 

wouldn't the top player also have access to the potions? they would use the potions as well and nothing would change :P


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#58 uncola

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Posted 09 September 2021 - 04:54

I actually love doubler 3000 and 5000. 

 

 



#59 WandKing

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Posted 09 September 2021 - 05:29

wouldn't the top player also have access to the potions? they would use the potions as well and nothing would change :P

Yes it would be more expensive for lower stam bank players since high stam bank players have stocked up. Yet "how far can you go subleveling at EoC? 50 lvls 100 lvl? before the player gets 1xp?" At some point leveling stalls. Just be great to get to that stall faster than currently allowed :P And it will be cool that lower levels can get up here faster and compete with the hard to get medal! 

 

ALG Tokens are easy to get, just do the 3Ds ; Donate, Daily Logons and DQs  :)



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Posted 09 September 2021 - 06:51

Yes it would be more expensive for lower stam bank players since high stam bank players have stocked up. Yet "how far can you go subleveling at EoC? 50 lvls 100 lvl? before the player gets 1xp?" At some point leveling stalls. Just be great to get to that stall faster than currently allowed :P And it will be cool that lower levels can get up here faster and compete with the hard to get medal! 

 

ALG Tokens are easy to get, just do the 3Ds ; Donate, Daily Logons and DQs  :)

Not all of us can donate.... often I don't have enough tokens to even get a doubler potion even with token DQ's... It would be nice if there was a gold purchase option for these items as well.....


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