While clearing bounties the other day, I noticed my Sealed buff showed that it was negating some of the new chest buffs but then the combat showed the negated buffs still activated. I sent in a ticket and was told that special buffs from rewards are untouchable by other buffs so even though Sealed activated, it had no actual effect during combat. No answer on what would happen when 2 opposing untouchable buffs activate in the same combat. Now I understand why Spell Break and Spell Leech don't work on reward buffs (and I agree they shouldn't) but I do think all other buffs should work normally during combat. I was told to post a poll about this so please vote and comment.
Unbeatable buffs
Started by yotekiller, Aug 12 2015 16:52
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Posted 12 August 2015 - 16:55
They aren't unbeatable, should continue to function normally.
Edited by EpicPiety, 12 August 2015 - 16:58.
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Posted 12 August 2015 - 17:01
My vote is for No. Combat buffs should work the way they are intended - ie Sealed should be able to deactivate the chest buffs if it selects one of those specific buffs. I'm not sure if it's just specific to Sealed, but normally, Flinch should work to reduce attack (even if KE is being used from the potions). However, Spell Leach and Spell Breaker shouldn't be able to work on them.
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Posted 12 August 2015 - 17:06
A buff that costs a few stamina and is level 175-192 should not block a buff thats level 500+...
Edited by EpicPiety, 12 August 2015 - 17:06.
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Posted 12 August 2015 - 17:15
A buff that costs a few stamina and is level 175-192 should not block a buff thats level 500+...
Such buff has much lower chance of activation than high lvl pot but I see no reason the buffs should be untouchable just because they are high lvl. Just my opinion.
It is only fair the pots are immune to SB/SL but that is about all. If they are disabled for one combat it is only about luck, player is not effectively losing anything therefore I fail to see why should it be prohibited.
Edited by vlkfenrir, 12 August 2015 - 17:15.
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Posted 12 August 2015 - 17:42
this has to be hopefully a bug, I remember getting attacked and that sealed negated my KE epic skill from global chest and I kept missing because of it
I voted No because it is the right thing
what happends if epic dispel curse activates on epic DC? nothing? lol
Edited by hittokiri, 12 August 2015 - 17:43.
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Posted 12 August 2015 - 19:05
A buff that costs a few stamina and is level 175-192 should not block a buff thats level 500+...
I disagree. Let me explain why.
Sealed does not strip any buff like SB or SL. It is supposed to activate against TWO of your opponents buffs during one combat. It still works against Loyalty UB200s and those are only earned through donations. Why should only the already crazy, uber-overpowered buffs be excluded by Sealed's effect? It's unnecessary. It makes those that need to rely on the uber epic pots too favored.
This is simply another bug. Let's see how long it takes to update!!
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Posted 12 August 2015 - 19:34
what happends if epic dispel curse activates on epic DC? nothing? lol
Good question - maybe the game breaks, or it falls into an infinite loop of nothingness!
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Posted 12 August 2015 - 21:16
I disagree. Let me explain why.
Sealed does not strip any buff like SB or SL. It is supposed to activate against TWO of your opponents buffs during one combat. It still works against Loyalty UB200s and those are only earned through donations. Why should only the already crazy, uber-overpowered buffs be excluded by Sealed's effect? It's unnecessary. It makes those that need to rely on the uber epic pots too favored.
This is simply another bug. Let's see how long it takes to update!!
You fancy luck pvp i guess... Maybe if it was Sealed 300...not a buff blocking an epic buff.
Edited by EpicPiety, 12 August 2015 - 21:16.
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Posted 13 August 2015 - 00:05
They aren't unbeatable, should continue to function normally.
The fact that you said it's unbeatable makes you invalid in this topic. Nothing is unbeatable. As for Buffs that are high level. I say they should be able to have a chance at being sealed as it's more fair for players who can't receive these OP buffs. For players who both have epic buffs on, in a pvp, it's still fair. Being able to SB or leech is a different story and shouldn't be allowed.
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Posted 13 August 2015 - 00:20
what happends if epic dispel curse activates on epic DC? nothing? lol
I fought against players using epic chests and my sealed always negated epic skill, it is bug
yotekiller, send ticket and tell HCS about this bug
longer it stays more trouble it brings
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Posted 13 August 2015 - 00:37
I fought against players using epic chests and my sealed always negated epic skill, it is bug
yotekiller, send ticket and tell HCS about this bug
longer it stays more trouble it brings
My ticket on the matter is on page 2 of dialogue. Now it's up to the community to decide how they want buffs to work.
Screenshot everything!
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Posted 13 August 2015 - 00:44
My ticket on the matter is on page 2 of dialogue. Now it's up to the community to decide how they want buffs to work.
HCS want change that all epic pots always activating and not affect by anything?
this is stupid, are you sure you understood what HCS said to you, maybe they misunderstand you in tickets?
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Posted 13 August 2015 - 00:48
HCS want change that all epic pots always activating and not affect by anything?
this is stupid, are you sure you understood what HCS said to you, maybe they misunderstand you in tickets?
I could copy and paste from the ticket but I understand that is strictly forbidden. I included screen shots of combats and they were quite clear in saying they intended epic buffs to be untouchable. A forum poll was the agreed upon next step.
Screenshot everything!
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Posted 13 August 2015 - 00:51
Voted in favour of having sealed work on Epic potions, makes things a bit fairer to those that may not have access to them. Also, it's not like people will lose their epic buffs due to this, just a small chance that two may be negated for a single combat, no big deal there really in my opinion.
Edited by Blacky, 13 August 2015 - 01:04.
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Posted 13 August 2015 - 01:00
I could copy and paste from the ticket but I understand that is strictly forbidden. I included screen shots of combats and they were quite clear in saying they intended epic buffs to be untouchable. A forum poll was the agreed upon next step.
I pvp for years and every time sealed activate on epic skill it always negate, always
it is difficult beating players who have epic chests, now those epic skills are untouchable lol
what happends if epic dispel curse activates on epic DC? nothing? lol
send HCS this example, they will fix bug fast after reading
Voted in favour of having sealed work on Epic potions, makes things a bit fairer to those that may not have access to them.
sealed always work on epic potions, I am sure
this is bug
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Posted 13 August 2015 - 01:13
I pvp for years and every time sealed activate on epic skill it always negate, always
it is difficult beating players who have epic chests, now those epic skills are untouchable lol
send HCS this example, they will fix bug fast after reading
sealed always work on epic potions, I am sure
this is bug
HCS seem to have changed the code for it when they implemented the seasons, and wrongly coded the epic pots making spell leech and spell breaker work on them, when they "fixed" that, they seem to have included sealed being unable to have any effect on them, effectively making Epic pots a bigger win button than they already were.
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Posted 13 August 2015 - 01:23
HCS seem to have changed the code for it when they implemented the seasons, and wrongly coded the epic pots making spell leech and spell breaker work on them, when they "fixed" that, they seem to have included sealed being unable to have any effect on them, effectively making Epic pots a bigger win button than they already were.
I remember HCS changing code because spell leech and spell breaker worked on epic pots, I think they made mistake and made sealed not work on them too, today HCS will be online and read this forum and change it back how it used be 
Edited by apedde, 13 August 2015 - 01:32.
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Posted 13 August 2015 - 04:42
The fact that you said it's unbeatable makes you invalid in this topic. Nothing is unbeatable. As for Buffs that are high level. I say they should be able to have a chance at being sealed as it's more fair for players who can't receive these OP buffs. For players who both have epic buffs on, in a pvp, it's still fair. Being able to SB or leech is a different story and shouldn't be allowed.
Okay if you want to be fair then you can say the opposite
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