85 replies to this topic

[watagashi]

of all the things being set aside so they can focus full attention on the mobile app, i'm hoping management sees this issue as something that takes precedence 

 

if the only punishment is terminating the clone and a 7 day ban...just going to encourage them to be smarter next time in their "multi-management"

 

in mobile game 'new earth' multis are allowed(!). as this game moves towards mobile,  maybe stronger warnings and punishment  is in order here

 

and yea, i saw the clone that got terminated in that guild (now kicked) = audacity

Id love to be a fly on the wall on that chat,,, "hi its me,, well not really me because you all arent supposed to be allowing this but hey im a new player that knows all of you already!! Welcome me back (again for the first time)"
That and not all of them are dumb enough to be on day one and shouting in global how much they know about the game already XD

Im just waiting for the fair warning to be ignored and the hammer to really come down,,,because im not the only one watching "that guild"
And that new crop of players who are all leveling like they been here before,, im sure the ones that CAN see are watching because all I can do is watch for the screw up that proves the suspicion. 

[EpicPiety]

Sound's like a waste of time to me they are sure on BG's watch list. FS doesn't need vigilante's. As far as you know they were banned for totally different reasons. When recruiting gvgers its inevitable some of them will be multi's nothing you can do about it. IDK why you gotta keep pressing the issue it's been resolved lol.

[watagashi]

It has?

Like I said its my hope that the sword of Damocles is hanging and next time those who are enabling and encouraging this behavior will see the admin mean business this time. 

And we all have the responsibility to report any cheats, it brings the game down for us all.

But ive said my piece and maybe even a bit more than I should have here, this has been brought up in a ticket with the suspicions and untill I see someone out themself like that other fellow or become a fly on the chat wall I can only have faith its being noticed and handled in the fairest way possible. 
 

[EpicPiety]

Sure report them that's great you should but openly menacing them is different. Like i said at the end of the day you will never know what they actually got in trouble for. Maybe when BG was inspecting them when they were reported it turns out they didn't white-list themselves for playing in the same household? Who honestly knows. Not you not me not anyone but BG. Anyways keep up the good work deleting those gvg multi's BG.

[Ryebred]

Yeah; it's not as if one bad egg couldn't be responsible for the whole mess. One person could create that many accounts and level them up to GvG range right?? Lolol. No need to assume it took many to do this don't even throw in the fact that opposition to a GvG revamping forum almost solely were from same suspect guild. *allegedly * that the very ideas presented in that forum would kill a farming operation. They argued it would drive off most the active GvG population...at least 150 GvGers would of likely left game over it *coughing *

I get bent over the little things. Add up rp for wins alone. 2650, farming guild let's conservatively estimate only 1k wins were 100 hit or 20000 rp plus 16500 is almost 36500 In wins alone. I find it unfortunate that ties are not registered but participation rp alone would suggest the number is ungodly. I bring it up to a lot of GvG people I know...most popular response was "I'd take 7 day suspension for that kind of $$" in that same contested revamp forum one member of an alleged suspect guild boasted that the GvG team players in that guild enjoy the fruits of labor at a tone of 500fsp weekly. Alleged clones were four years old. Let's assume they were inflating the truth to appear big and the real number is only 500 a month ~ still a lot of bank over four years.
These guys now are the greatest promotion a new anti farming GvG idea can get. With that off my chest I'm done with this topic until devs are serious about changing the system. Thanks

Edited by Ryebred, 31 October 2017 - 18:21.

[Spider0007]

I'd take those kinds of profits for a 7 day suspension any day!!

[BigGrim]

I'd take those kinds of profits for a 7 day suspension any day!!

A good number of prime accounts were terminated, so, probably not.

~ Grim

[Spider0007]

A good number of prime accounts were terminated, so, probably not.

~ Grim

You've suspended me for longer for bringing unwanted attention to a fictitious FS player in the shoutbox. Clever or not I see why these players took the chance and boasting over 100K FSP earned over 4 years?

[kitobas]

A good number of prime accounts were terminated, so, probably not.

~ Grim

can please asking why only terminating good number of accounts and not all accounts?

 

they all doing cheating and logic saying all needing getting same punishment for breaking hcs rules, that what I thinking

 

I'd take those kinds of profits for a 7 day suspension any day!!

I agreing with spider0007, this will only encouraging players to cheating, 7 dy suspension for many thousand fsps profit is very low risk or no risk I thinking

[watagashi]

A good number of prime accounts were terminated, so, probably not.

~ Grim

Perspective,,, having to start over as a 1 again losing all my upgrades and having to look over my shoulder constantly isnt worth it to me. So I agree with Grim.

Its the afterward that they have nothing left to lose. 

Edited by watagashi, 01 November 2017 - 01:08.

[BadPenny]

A good number of prime accounts were terminated, so, probably not.

~ Grim

My hero on the case.

 

To those of you thinking he plays favorites, he doesn't.  But unless evidence exists, I have observed that he errs on the side of caution.  Better to have to come back later to clear out stragglers than have fallout from you guys because innocent parties suffered.  You guys assume too much, and I have observed a few that want it both ways.   I won't mention names, you know who you are.  I have no idea why you want to invent new issues... I guess you need attention.

[BigGrim]

can please asking why only terminating good number of accounts and not all accounts?

No. We do not discuss other players accounts with anyone other than them. We have the full picture, you guys don't.

~ Grim

[BadPenny]

No. We do not discuss other players accounts with anyone other than them. We have the full picture, you guys don't.

~ Grim

welp, they already asked... you just reserve the right to give no answer....   

[Chooma123]

I would like to say thank you to the admins for sorting out this gvg clone problem, now we can all get back to enjoying some good gvg action without the stain left on the honest gvg community by these people we welcome the proposed hits by all guilds especially our good friends at RA as stated above by ricebred

[sweetlou]

With that off my chest I'm done with this topic until devs are serious about changing the system. Thanks

Good point. There continues to be a lot of wind blown about nothing to look forward to. Thank you!

[BigGrim]

Good point. There continues to be a lot of wind blown about nothing to look forward to. Thank you!

Actually, as most comments have pointed out, a lot has been done, thanks.

~ Grim

[sweetlou]

Actually, as most comments have pointed out, a lot has been done, thanks.

~ Grim

With all due respect, obviously you missed my point. I had concurred, adding my opinion to the lack of new development to the GvG system. I and many others, actually, are looking forward not backward but there's nothing to see. I can however look back for a minute and say multies should never have been allowed to be created. Currently HCS prefers a rare reactionary stance of the multi-problem because of the resources currently required to police the game in-house. HCS has historically relied on player self-policing of this and many other issues. A simple program on this particular issue could easily prevent allowing multi accounts from the same ip address. If there are two players using the same address wouldn't the more proactive approach of identity verification BEFORE creating a second-address account be more productive or is that contrary to HCS' gaming business model? This approach would never eliminate the problem but would deter a vast percentage of it. But sure I can always applaud any improvement to the game so everyone involved can rest on their laurels. High-fives all around, yea team!

[BigGrim]

As is well known, the App is the primary focus for development. Repeatedly saying we need development is not required, as there IS development.

~ Grim

[EpicPiety]

There is development but not the kind we like to see. I just hope this app can hurry up and be released already. You know us BG we like to see new things added to the game. Why do you think we come to the forums will all sorts of fantastic ideas. We would love to see even 1% of them added. Better than 0% we have seen last 3+ years or whenever composing was added. Wouldn't you get bored of the same routine for numerous years. We want a change up.

 

 

People probably keep creating multi's because they are dead bored with the game.

Edited by EpicPiety, 01 November 2017 - 20:37.

[watagashi]

I like to think after all the work on the app the other stuff will have the floodgate opened,,, including making the cheaters regret it when they see everything that will make the rest of us refer to time as ATA instead of AD