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[BigGrim]

Hi there everyone.

 

Update, posted page 7.

 

Got through the thread today and here are the changes I've made. Changes are in bold.

 

 

Change Potion of Intensity to:

Doubler 1500 Loyalty 200

 

 

Change Auspice of Ancients to:

Conserve 400 Loyalty 200

 

 

Change Scholars Draft to:

Adept Learner 400 Loyalty 250

Librarian 400

 

Potion of Ultimate Global Acceleration Cost reduced to 1000.

 

 

Move Fast Track Draft from Caves and upgrade to buff level 200. Loyalty: 100.

 

 

New: 

 

Here are 13 new proposed potions and their loyalty costs.

 

Warriors Elixir. Loyalty: 500

 

Fury Level : 200 Duration : 120m

Berserk Level : 200 Duration : 120m

Dark Curse Level : 200 Duration : 120m

Enchanted Weapon Level : 200 Duration : 120m

Wither Level : 200 Duration : 120m

Shatter Armor Level : 200 Duration : 120m

 

 

Potion of the Quester. Loyalty:  500

 

Find Item Level : 1000 Duration : 120m

Quest Finder Level : 250 Duration : 120m

Quest Hunter Level : 250 Duration : 120m

 

 

Potion of Precision Strike. Loyalty:  500

 

Arterial Strike Level :  1000 Duration : 120m

 

 

Forgemaster Draft. Loyalty:  500

 

Epic Forge Level :  200 Duration : 120m

Epic Craft Level : 200 Duration :120m

  

 

 

Magical Carapace. Loyalty:  500

 

Defensive Aura Level : 250 Duration : 120m

Shield Wall Level : 250 Duration : 120m

 

 

Sorcerous Scales. Loyalty:  500

 

Layered Armor Level : 250 Duration : 120m

Armor Boost Level : 250 Duration : 120m

 

 

Hunting Lord Potion. Loyalty:  1000

 

Doubler Level : 3000 Duration : 120m

 

 

Potion of the Divine Hunter. Loyalty:   2000

 

Doubler Level : 5000 Duration : 120m

 

 

Potion of Divine Knowledge. Loyalty:  750

 

Adept Learner Level : 600 Duration : 120m

Librarian Level : 600 Duration : 120m

 

 

Rampage Potion. Loyalty:  1000

 

Animal Magnetism Level : 450 Duration : 120m

Conserve Level : 550 Duration : 120m

 

 

Alchemist Prized Potion. Loyalty:  500

 

Distil removed.

Brewing Master Level :  500 Duration : 120m

 

 

Potion of Supreme Global Acceleration. Loyalty 750

Global Booster 1000

 

Potion of Devilish Global Acceleration. Loyalty 2000.

Global Booster 2000

 

Potion of Godly Global Acceleration. Loyalty 3000.

Global Booster 3000

 

 

Again, feedback on these new changes are welcome.

 

 

Original Post

 

 

Today we are posting these proposed changes and additions to Loyalty Potions. These changes and additions are due to a combination scouring the forums for ideas as well as some ideas of our own.

 

Existing Potions:

 

This is what exists at the moment.

 

Courageous Draft. Loyalty: 10.

Adept Learner 100

Librarian 100

Animal Magnetism 100

Doubler 50

 

Adventurer Elixir. Loyalty: 10.

Fury 100

Berserk 100

Enchant Weapon 100

Enchanted Armor 100

 

Auspice of Ancients. Loyalty: 50.

Conserve 180

 

Scholars Draft. Loyalty: 50.

Adept Learner 180

 

Sacrifice Potion. Loyalty: 100.

Sacrifice 200

 

Potion of Intensity. Loyalty: 150.

Doubler 1200

 

Everlasting Potion. Loyalty: 500.

Unbreakable 200

 

Fleeting Potion. Loyalty: 750.

Light Foot 1250

 

 

Potion of Minor Global Acceleration. Loyalty 25.

Global Booster 50

 

Potion of Global Acceleration. Loyalty 50.

Global Booster 100

 

Potion of Major Global Acceleration. Loyalty 100.

Global Booster 150

 

Potion of Superior Global Acceleration. Loyalty 150.

Global Booster 200

 

Potion of Extreme Global Acceleration. Loyalty 450.

Global Booster 500

 

Potion of Ultimate Global Acceleration. Loyalty 1200.

Global Booster 1500 

 

 

Changes: 

 

Here are a few changes we are considering to existing potions.

 

Change Potion of Intensity to:

Doubler 1500 Loyalty 200

 

 

Change Auspice of Ancients to:

Conserve 440 Loyalty 100

 

 

Change Scholars Draft to:

Adept Learner 400 Loyalty 250

Librarian 400

 

Potion of Ultimate Global Acceleration Cost reduced to 1000.

 

 

Move Fast Track Draft from Caves and upgrade to buff level 200. Loyalty: 100.

 

 

New: 

 

Here are 13 new proposed potions and their loyalty costs.

 

Warriors Elixir. Loyalty: 750

 

Fury Level : 200 Duration : 120m

Berserk Level : 200 Duration : 120m

Dark Curse Level : 200 Duration : 120m

Enchanted Weapon Level : 200 Duration : 120m

Wither Level : 200 Duration : 120m

Shatter Armor Level : 200 Duration : 120m

 

 

Potion of the Quester. Loyalty:  500

 

Find Item Level : 400 Duration : 120m

Quest Finder Level : 200 Duration : 120m

Quest Hunter Level : 200 Duration : 120m

 

 

Potion of Precision Strike. Loyalty:  500

 

Arterial Strike Level :  1000 Duration : 120m

 

 

Forgemaster Draft. Loyalty:  150

 

Epic Forge Level :  200 Duration : 120m

 

 

Magical Carapace. Loyalty:  500

 

Defensive Aura Level : 250 Duration : 120m

Layered Armor Level : 250 Duration : 120m

 

 

Hunting Lord Potion. Loyalty:  500

 

Doubler Level : 3000 Duration : 120m

 

 

Potion of the Divine Hunter. Loyalty:   1000

 

Doubler Level : 5000 Duration : 120m

 

 

Potion of Divine Knowledge. Loyalty:  750

 

Adept Learner Level : 1000 Duration : 120m

Librarian Level : 900 Duration : 120m

 

 

Rampage Potion. Loyalty:  750

 

Animal Magnetism Level : 500 Duration : 120m

Conserve Level : 1000 Duration : 120m

 

 

Alchemist Prized Potion. Loyalty:  750

 

Distil Level : 250 Duration : 120m

Brewing Master Level :  500 Duration : 120m

 

 

Potion of Supreme Global Acceleration. Loyalty 2000

Global Booster 1000

 

Potion of Devilish Global Acceleration. Loyalty 3000.

Global Booster 1500

 

Potion of Godly Global Acceleration. Loyalty 5000.

Global Booster 2000

 

 

We look forward to your feedback on these proposals. We also welcome any additional ideas you may have.

 

~ The Fallen Sword Team

[Emperor Sidd]

Thank you for bringing this up for feedback before they are implemented!

[EpicPiety]

Are these going to be bound?

[Corrupted]

I like the buffs but some of these might need to be tuned on Allegiance Token cost I think?

Edited by Corrupted, 08 September 2021 - 17:22.

[Airborne12]

great ideas

great ideas

[Undjuvion]

 

Potion of Divine Knowledge. Loyalty:  750

 

Adept Learner Level : 1000 Duration : 120m

Librarian Level : 900 Duration : 120m

 

 

Rampage Potion. Loyalty:  750

 

Animal Magnetism Level : 500 Duration : 120m

Conserve Level : 1000 Duration : 120m

 

 

 

750 tokens is madness for these two, i'd expect no less than 50k tokens, maybe 75k, that said you can leave them like that and no leveler need ever donate again

 

edit: buying all gift boxes and celeb chests for 1 fsp

Edited by Undjuvion, 08 September 2021 - 17:30.

[bjkills]

Why do we need AL and Conserve 1000? It’s already easy enough to level in this game. And please no distil 250

[tlthomasjr]

Change Potion of Intensity to: Doubler 1500 Loyalty 200 this is epic potion level - too high

 

 

Change Auspice of Ancients to: Conserve 440 Loyalty 100 nearly epic lvl - too high for only 100 cost

 

 

Change Scholars Draft to: Adept Learner 400 Loyalty 250

Librarian 400

 

Potion of Ultimate Global Acceleration Cost reduced to 1000.

 

 

Move Fast Track Draft from Caves and upgrade to buff level 200. Loyalty: 100.

 

 

New: 

 

Here are 13 new proposed potions and their loyalty costs.

 

Warriors Elixir. Loyalty: 750

 

Fury Level : 200 Duration : 120m

Berserk Level : 200 Duration : 120m

Dark Curse Level : 200 Duration : 120m

Enchanted Weapon Level : 200 Duration : 120m

Wither Level : 200 Duration : 120m

Shatter Armor Level : 200 Duration : 120m

 

 

Potion of the Quester. Loyalty:  500

 

Find Item Level : 400 Duration : 120m

Quest Finder Level : 200 Duration : 120m

Quest Hunter Level : 200 Duration : 120m

 

 

Potion of Precision Strike. Loyalty:  500

 

Arterial Strike Level :  1000 Duration : 120m

 

 

Forgemaster Draft. Loyalty:  150

 

Epic Forge Level :  200 Duration : 120m

 

 

Magical Carapace. Loyalty:  500

 

Defensive Aura Level : 250 Duration : 120m

Layered Armor Level : 250 Duration : 120m

 

 

Hunting Lord Potion. Loyalty:  500

 

Doubler Level : 3000 Duration : 120m doubler 3k the same cost as a UB200? should be way more expensive

 

 

Potion of the Divine Hunter. Loyalty:   1000 same, i am sure people with a ton of stamina need this, but compared to much less powerful potions, it is way too cheap

 

Doubler Level : 5000 Duration : 120m

 

 

Potion of Divine Knowledge. Loyalty:  750

 

Adept Learner Level : 1000 Duration : 120m ridiculously overpowered and way too cheap comparatively 

Librarian Level : 900 Duration : 120m  same comment as for al 1k 

 

 

Rampage Potion. Loyalty:  750

 

Animal Magnetism Level : 500 Duration : 120m

Conserve Level : 1000 Duration : 120m

 

 

Alchemist Prized Potion. Loyalty:  750

 

Distil Level : 250 Duration : 120m should cost his much each

Brewing Master Level :  500 Duration : 120m same

 

 

Potion of Supreme Global Acceleration. Loyalty 2000

Global Booster 1000

 

Potion of Devilish Global Acceleration. Loyalty 3000.

Global Booster 1500

 

Potion of Godly Global Acceleration. Loyalty 5000.

Global Booster 2000

Change Potion of Intensity to: Doubler 1500 Loyalty 200 this is epic potion level - too high

 

 

Change Auspice of Ancients to: Conserve 440 Loyalty 100 nearly epic lvl - too high for only 100 cost

 

 

Change Scholars Draft to: Adept Learner 400 Loyalty 250

Librarian 400

 

Potion of Ultimate Global Acceleration Cost reduced to 1000.

 

 

Move Fast Track Draft from Caves and upgrade to buff level 200. Loyalty: 100.

 

 

New: 

 

Here are 13 new proposed potions and their loyalty costs.

 

Warriors Elixir. Loyalty: 750

 

Fury Level : 200 Duration : 120m

Berserk Level : 200 Duration : 120m

Dark Curse Level : 200 Duration : 120m

Enchanted Weapon Level : 200 Duration : 120m

Wither Level : 200 Duration : 120m

Shatter Armor Level : 200 Duration : 120m

 

 

Potion of the Quester. Loyalty:  500

 

Find Item Level : 400 Duration : 120m

Quest Finder Level : 200 Duration : 120m

Quest Hunter Level : 200 Duration : 120m

 

 

Potion of Precision Strike. Loyalty:  500

 

Arterial Strike Level :  1000 Duration : 120m

 

 

Forgemaster Draft. Loyalty:  150

 

Epic Forge Level :  200 Duration : 120m

 

 

Magical Carapace. Loyalty:  500

 

Defensive Aura Level : 250 Duration : 120m

Layered Armor Level : 250 Duration : 120m

 

 

Hunting Lord Potion. Loyalty:  500

 

Doubler Level : 3000 Duration : 120m doubler 3k the same cost as a UB200? should be way more expensive

 

 

Potion of the Divine Hunter. Loyalty:   1000 same, i am sure people with a ton of stamina need this, but compared to much less powerful potions, it is way too cheap

 

Doubler Level : 5000 Duration : 120m

 

 

Potion of Divine Knowledge. Loyalty:  750

 

Adept Learner Level : 1000 Duration : 120m ridiculously overpowered and way too cheap comparatively 

Librarian Level : 900 Duration : 120m  same comment as for al 1k 

 

 

Rampage Potion. Loyalty:  750

 

Animal Magnetism Level : 500 Duration : 120m

Conserve Level : 1000 Duration : 120m

 

 

Alchemist Prized Potion. Loyalty:  750

 

Distil Level : 250 Duration : 120m should cost his much each

Brewing Master Level :  500 Duration : 120m same

 

 

Potion of Supreme Global Acceleration. Loyalty 2000

Global Booster 1000

 

Potion of Devilish Global Acceleration. Loyalty 3000.

Global Booster 1500

 

Potion of Godly Global Acceleration. Loyalty 5000.

Global Booster 2000

[Emperor Sidd]

 

Warriors Elixir

- Cost too high

- Cost may be justified if duration is 360 mins

 

Potion of the Quester

- Cost too high

- Find Item level 800 is worth about 10k gold in the AH

 

Potion of Precision Strike

- OK

- Would prefer 30 mins duration

 

Forgemaster Draft

- Buff level can already be casted

- Cost may be justified if duration is 360 mins

 

Magical Carapace

- Cost too high

- Either double the buff level or 360 mins duration

 

Hunting Lord Potion

- OK

 

Potion of Divine Knowledge

- OK

- Would prefer 30 mins duration

 

Rampage Potion

- OK

- Would prefer 30 mins duration

 

Alchemist Prized Potion

- Cost too high

- Remove Distil

 

Potion of Supreme Global Acceleration

- Cost too high

 

Potion of Devilish Global Acceleration

- Cost too high

 

Potion of Godly Global Acceleration

- Cost too high

Edited by Emperor Sidd, 08 September 2021 - 19:20.

[EpicPiety]

Please do not add distil 250, please it's going to break the game. Distil doesn't need to go any higher than zombie brew at 150.

Edited by EpicPiety, 08 September 2021 - 17:38.

[Corrupted]

You also have to consider all the potions and chests (including p2w ones) that will become irrelevant because of these rewards. Not that I donate, but I'd be very interesting to see where it goes if I was.

[aaarnio]

Awesome idea! Keep em coming!

[Treelink]

Potion of Divine Knowledge. Loyalty:  750

 

Adept Learner Level : 1000 Duration : 120m

Librarian Level : 900 Duration : 120m

 

 

Rampage Potion. Loyalty:  750

 

Animal Magnetism Level : 500 Duration : 120m

Conserve Level : 1000 Duration : 120m

 

 

Alchemist Prized Potion. Loyalty:  750

 

Distil Level : 250 Duration : 120m

Brewing Master Level :  500 Duration : 120m

Please don't add any of these - At least not at record high levels like proposed. 

• Leveling doesn't have to be faster than it is today (I like that I still have years of content to get through)
• Distil 250 will make some buffs too damn good. You can solve this by capping certain buffs levels, but to be honest it's already super non-transparent which buffs are capped when.

[Artzik]

no to all buffs that are higher than donation chests (epic), triple no to distil its game killer, no need for bigger distill than zbrew 150 ever. doubler 3k and 5k are ok to stay, global doublers too, just remove one 0 from cost

Edited by Artzik, 08 September 2021 - 18:40.

[Undjuvion]

no to all buffs that are higher than donation chests (epic), triple no to distil, doubler 3k and 5k are ok to stay

 

i dunno why they would need to be higher than even global rewards.

[Artzik]

and you are right undjuvion

[Undjuvion]

how mant tokens come from DQ a week, 300? 600?

 

edit: moving towards f2p is great tho can the cows afford it?

Edited by Undjuvion, 08 September 2021 - 18:05.

[Feldshan]

I can see higher doublers, but we don't need higher AL Lib and Cons along with distil to push them even higher. With a high level distil to push the Cons higher, and a high doubler it would be way too easy to hit end game with so little stamina during the double exp event. 

Instead why don't we just have the loyal potions be able to buy a bound fsp chest that are sold with the fsp offers? Doubler and Find item buffs would be better put in composing where they can be increased overtime without becoming unbalanced so easy. Really the good exp buffs should be with the fsp offers only, loyaliy could be the doubler types of buffs and the auction house could have some of the 150 buffs or something. Each way to get potions should have its own unique potions along with a few generic ones.

[shindrak]

 

Changes on current pots are fine but I will just give my opinion on new pots , 

My reply in Red

 

New: 

 

Here are 13 new proposed potions and their loyalty costs.

 

Warriors Elixir. Loyalty: 750

 

Fury Level : 200 Duration : 120m

Berserk Level : 200 Duration : 120m

Dark Curse Level : 200 Duration : 120m

Enchanted Weapon Level : 200 Duration : 120m

Wither Level : 200 Duration : 120m

Shatter Armor Level : 200 Duration : 120m

 

This is ok 

 

Potion of the Quester. Loyalty:  500

 

Find Item Level : 400 Duration : 120m

Quest Finder Level : 200 Duration : 120m

Quest Hunter Level : 200 Duration : 120m

Make  Find Item level 1200 and this will be considerable since we have FI 1000 in AH and higher lvls from chests 

 

Potion of Precision Strike. Loyalty:  500

 

Arterial Strike Level :  1000 Duration : 120m

I think it should be level 1500 to make use of it . 

 

Forgemaster Draft. Loyalty:  150

 

Epic Forge Level :  200 Duration : 120m

ok

 

Magical Carapace. Loyalty:  500

 

Defensive Aura Level : 250 Duration : 120m

Layered Armor Level : 250 Duration : 120m

Ok

 

Hunting Lord Potion. Loyalty:  500

 

Doubler Level : 3000 Duration : 120m

yes please !

 

Potion of the Divine Hunter. Loyalty:   1000

 

Doubler Level : 5000 Duration : 120m

yes please !

 

Potion of Divine Knowledge. Loyalty:  750

 

Adept Learner Level : 1000 Duration : 120m

Librarian Level : 900 Duration : 120m

Big NO this is unreal numbers i would say AL750 LIB750  not anymore .

this should be real rare ! like quest reward only

 

Rampage Potion. Loyalty:  750

 

Animal Magnetism Level : 500 Duration : 120m

Conserve Level : 1000 Duration : 120m

Ok

 

Alchemist Prized Potion. Loyalty:  750

 

Distil Level : 250 Duration : 120m

Brewing Master Level :  500 Duration : 120m

No for this , keep highest Brewing Master comes from Arena shop ! or lvl 500 from chest

also distil 250 is game killer i would say keep it 150 from Zombie brew

 

Potion of Supreme Global Acceleration. Loyalty 2000

Global Booster 1000

Thats ok but lower the price

Potion of Devilish Global Acceleration. Loyalty 3000.

Global Booster 1500

Thats ok but lower the price

Potion of Godly Global Acceleration. Loyalty 5000.

Global Booster 2000

Thats ok but lower the price

 

 

 

Edited by shindrak, 11 September 2021 - 19:23.

[JLeach]

I like these potions personally, being able to level even faster sounds great to someone like me who feels they have a long way to catch up to the majority of the player base. I get that for the higher level players in this thread they may not like this but I am a big fan.