32 replies to this topic

[sweetlou]

Nothing will be done about deflect, instead players hiding behind it need to be 100 stammed!

[Lellarell]

thank you, deflect

 

 

So where is the cat's anti-deflect?

 

 

If it was a buffalo I'd try to say you. 

[bloody18]

I can't stand deflect. I wouldn't cry if it was taken away from the game

I would however cry if they accidentally took Mzz out of the game instead of deflect=) oopskie daisys!! <3

[WWWolf]

I voted to keep Deflect but only because remove from Bounty was not an option.

 

As others have said, it does play its role (however frustrating it may be) in GvG and Ladder.  However, if someone is bountied, Deflect should either not work or be halved.  It doesn't make much sense for players to be able to hide behind Deflect on the BB.

 

I might be willing to bend on Deflect being removed/reduced on the ladder as well but think that's all part of the challenge.  The last time I was on the ladder, I had Deflect on and was hit 6 times in a row.  It can be done.

 

I am completely against removing Deflect from GvG.

[Bleltch]

Nothing will be done about deflect, instead players hiding behind it need to be 100 stammed!

It's good to know the deflectribution movement i started years ago isn't dead after all.

[BadPenny]

It's good to know the deflectribution movement i started years ago isn't dead after all.

That it is. That it is. 

[bleacher12]

It's good to know the deflectribution movement i started years ago isn't dead after all.

+infinity

 

Deflect on the board makes no sense whatsoever, folks keep crying about how the board is a mechanism for punishment, so then why is deflect an option there? You are on the board for a reason, defend as hard as you want, don't deflect.

Nor does it make sense on the ladder, if you opt-in, be prepared to take hits.

 

GVG and normal play are the only places for deflect. This is a good suggestion that doesn't ask for any change to deflect, just reasonable limitations on where it can be used.

 

In fact, even in normal off-ladder PVP, if an attack is deflected, it should not be bountyable, to me that's equivalent to double dipping. The attack was deflected, what is there to bounty for? To teach a lesson and prevent future attack I'll hear some say, really? Does it work? All it is to any PVP player or gold thief is an invitation for more hits for being overly punitive in what is after all a PVP game! Protect your gold better and you likely will rarely ever be a target for out for the blue hits.

Edited by bleacher12, 29 April 2014 - 19:41.

[BadPenny]

+infinity

 

Deflect on the board makes no sense whatsoever, folks keep crying about how the board is a mechanism for punishment, so then why is deflect an option there? You are on the board for a reason, defend as hard as you want, don't deflect.

Nor does it make sense on the ladder, if you opt-in, be prepared to take hits.

 

GVG and normal play are the only places for deflect. This is a good suggestion that doesn't ask for any change to deflect, just reasonable limitations on where it can be used.

 

In fact, even in normal off-ladder PVP, if an attack is deflected, it should not be bountyable, to me that's equivalent to double dipping. The attack was deflected, what is there to bounty for? To teach a lesson and prevent future attack I'll hear some say, really? Does it work? All it is to any PVP player or gold thief is an invitation for more hits for being overly punitive in what is after all a PVP game! Protect your gold better and you likely will rarely ever be a target for out for the blue hits.

I couldn't agree more.  Deflect is annoying as it is, and it would be nice if it were removed from bounty and ladder hits.  And being bountied for a deflected attack is just lame.  My 2 cents.  

[WWWolf]

Nor does it make sense on the ladder, if you opt-in, be prepared to take hits.

I mostly agree with you there but I do like to occasionally jump on the ladder to see how good I can be at defense.  Part of Defense is Deflect.  I have yet to EVER attack another player on this game and have no intention of doing so.  I do see your point in the case where players are attacking on the ladder and hiding behind Deflect but all systems have their flaws.

 

 

In fact, even in normal off-ladder PVP, if an attack is deflected, it should not be bountyable, to me that's equivalent to double dipping. The attack was deflected, what is there to bounty for? To teach a lesson and prevent future attack I'll hear some say, really? Does it work? All it is to any PVP player or gold thief is an invitation for more hits for being overly punitive in what is after all a PVP game! Protect your gold better and you likely will rarely ever be a target for out for the blue hits.

Here I tend to disagree (somewhat).  If someone breaks in to your house and steals nothing, do you not file a police report?  Don't get me wrong, I see your point.  However, as much as PvP is a part of this game and non-PvP players need to be prepared for possible attacks, PvP players should be prepared for possible bounties.

 

In short, yes Deflect is a pain for PvP players but at the same time, PvP is a pain for non-PvP players.  The trick is to find the right amount of balance for the benefit of the game, not the individual.

[Kildek]

Nothing will be done about deflect, instead players hiding behind it need to be 100 stammed!

Time to 100 stam hit yourself?
Server time 15:29 06/Jun/2014

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Edited by Kildek, 06 June 2014 - 16:00.

[justinian9]

We have Spell Breaker, Spell Leach, and Anti-Deflect to fight Deflect.  This line of thought started years ago from PvP players threatening anyone who used it with 100 stamina hits.  That did not work so now we are trying to get removed by the Cows.  My thoughts on the subject is a PvP player quote to players that dont PvP...  this is a PvP game, get over it ... Deflect is in the game... get over it

 

 

Edited ... looks like Lellarell posted the same thing earlier... sorry did not see your post before i posted.

Edited by justinian9, 09 June 2014 - 03:52.

[shindrak]

Would be cool if they add new buff called "Deflect breaker" its similar to spell breaker but will only remove Deflect buff from the target .. along with 1800 and 2000 skills ,but when?

[BadPenny]

I personally think deflect should work the same way it works for the arena. THAT would be cool.