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#1 hidulphus

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Posted 16 March 2015 - 06:39

this place is known for easy botting for lvl 45~~. enemy is melee spawn rate good. lvl is 40s whihc drops more fp closer to ur max lvl. so many people bot here. see teranuka. no one dare to bot there. make the enemy at temple of sand ranged and more enemy in there or just remove it all together. i caught 4 different people in there. its fine if they are normal farming fp. but most arent~~ and with the current policy of hcs of botting. this place is too good for them. i can name a few other place, but this place is the most popular.



#2 Linkondrugs

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Posted 16 March 2015 - 09:46

Bro are you crazy this is like literally the only decent FP farm in the game. Botters only sit there and attack 1 monster they dont mob and stuff. If you take that area out or make it harder, You are making FP even more scarce. This is a horrible idea. I have to grind my ass off to make around 75fp a hour here and you want to take that away also i would leave.


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#3 Alteration

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Posted 16 March 2015 - 11:10

Actually, the normal mobs outside of Sands, the bullasaurs/scorpions, 2 camp rotation, have better drop rate than ToS.  So does Taranuka, or other areas. ToS is just "easy", but not the "best".



#4 hidulphus

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Posted 16 March 2015 - 11:29

yes this is too easy for botter. if you are actually playing there are a few other place betetr than temple of sand. you just never try them. this place is for botter to one hit stuff.



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Posted 16 March 2015 - 12:23

yeah I've heard someone was botting there but on my alt, I haven't got that questline yet :(

 

If I see it, I'll be reporting it

 

And yes, don't change Temple of the sands (not terms of service XD) because the quests are hard enough and it shouldn't be taken away because some botter wants to have it easy......I never understood botting in this game.....what is the point......


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#6 RISDMAC

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Posted 16 March 2015 - 12:44

Alternatively, if you spot someone who you believe is botting, report them in the correct manner and let HCS deal with it in an appropriate manner - just because someone chooses not to interact with you does not mean they are a bot.

 

No to the suggestion from me.



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Posted 16 March 2015 - 12:53

i dont mind if they change temple of sands all mobs to ranged attacks but again i tihnk ranger bot with socked almandines could farm even on ranged mobs becouse there mobs have low aggro range and die probaly before they can even do to you dmg. Its true that some bots farming or trying to farm fusion powder becouse its easy way to make alot of ep, make all FP again account or character bound or remove fusion powder from droprate and make buyable bound on character from fusion master in EC like 5 gold each that would be also good gold sink becouse now gold dont have much value



#8 hidulphus

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Posted 16 March 2015 - 13:57

Alternatively, if you spot someone who you believe is botting, report them in the correct manner and let HCS deal with it in an appropriate manner - just because someone chooses not to interact with you does not mean they are a bot.

 

No to the suggestion from me.

useless they only ban bot which is caught by the moderator. i believe making this place harder is better.or at least tweak it someway or another. 



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Posted 16 March 2015 - 14:01

useless they only ban bot which is caught by the moderator. i believe making this place harder is better.or at least tweak it someway or another. 

I disagree in terms of questing. and if they don't bot here, they'll do it elsewhere

 

The way this game is, there's no need for botting really :(


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#10 RISDMAC

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Posted 16 March 2015 - 14:26

useless they only ban bot which is caught by the moderator. i believe making this place harder is better.or at least tweak it someway or another. 

As I have said, just because YOU believe someone is a bot does not mean they are one.

 

Someone can actively ignore you while grinding does not mean they a re a bot.

 

I used to often drop an almandine in my ranged weapon and hit e-1 while at work and not paying full attention to the screen -

I can do this from any position on any map but it is not botting.

You cannot prove a person is a bot so you need to report it by submitting a ticket, after that it is in the hands of HCS to decide upon appropriate action.



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Posted 16 March 2015 - 14:44

As I have said, just because YOU believe someone is a bot does not mean they are one.

 

Someone can actively ignore you while grinding does not mean they a re a bot.

 

I used to often drop an almandine in my ranged weapon and hit e-1 while at work and not paying full attention to the screen -

I can do this from any position on any map but it is not botting.

You cannot prove a person is a bot so you need to report it by submitting a ticket, after that it is in the hands of HCS to decide upon appropriate action.

 

You can tell when it's a bot and when it's a person who doesn't want to be bothered. I've seen many of both. Botter patterns are really obvious.


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#12 hidulphus

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Posted 16 March 2015 - 15:53

As I have said, just because YOU believe someone is a bot does not mean they are one.

 

Someone can actively ignore you while grinding does not mean they a re a bot.

 

I used to often drop an almandine in my ranged weapon and hit e-1 while at work and not paying full attention to the screen -

I can do this from any position on any map but it is not botting.

You cannot prove a person is a bot so you need to report it by submitting a ticket, after that it is in the hands of HCS to decide upon appropriate action.

sorry if you cant recognize which one is bot and which aren't i can give you some tips how if you care to listen.

most of the bots i meet, i kill them by bringing lots of mob near them(yes they do die miraculously).

unless you saying you also stay in the same place for hours and when someone bringing mob near you you didnt move away waiting your dead. 

 

when i submit ticket i give 1st picture when they bot. and 2nd picture when they die because i bring somany mobs to them.

if this doesn't proof they are botting, i will make a video and show it to you. how long is it enough to proof it? 1 hour?2 hour?



#13 RISDMAC

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Posted 16 March 2015 - 16:06

sorry if you cant recognize which one is bot and which aren't i can give you some tips how if you care to listen.

most of the bots i meet, i kill them by bringing lots of mob near them(yes they do die miraculously).

unless you saying you also stay in the same place for hours and when someone bringing mob near you you didnt move away waiting your dead. 

 

when i submit ticket i give 1st picture when they bot. and 2nd picture when they die because i bring somany mobs to them.

if this doesn't proof they are botting, i will make a video and show it to you. how long is it enough to proof it? 1 hour?2 hour?

Again, it is not for you to prove they are a bot, but for you to report any suspicions to HCS via a ticket and let them deal with it in the appropriate manner.

 

Not really sure how many other ways there are of saying this...



#14 hidulphus

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Posted 16 March 2015 - 16:33

Again, it is not for you to prove they are a bot, but for you to report any suspicions to HCS via a ticket and let them deal with it in the appropriate manner.

 

Not really sure how many other ways there are of saying this...

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Posted 16 March 2015 - 16:46

You can tell when it's a bot and when it's a person who doesn't want to be bothered. I've seen many of both. Botter patterns are really obvious.

This is true....but still report it and leave the rest up to the staff...

 

In short you're both are right already so stop fighting :P


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#16 Linkondrugs

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Posted 17 March 2015 - 07:52

Guys botters dont mob they stand there and kill 1 monster over and over...


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#17 Mongo

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Posted 17 March 2015 - 12:44

Ruining a part of the game that players enjoy, just to tackle the bot problem is never the answer :)


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#18 D4VYJONES

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Posted 18 March 2015 - 00:36

Well... if the population is higher, at least in Oceanic server this wouldn't be a problem because there will be many players competing for the same grind spot. So come and farm your fusion powder here



#19 Trojar

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Posted 22 March 2015 - 22:51

Ruining a part of the game that players enjoy, just to tackle the bot problem is never the answer :)

Exactly! Don't remove something from the game because it's being abused by bots. Otherwise you could say that Diablo II shouldn't have an act 5 because of the duplication bugs.

(because act 5 is where you get the high level stuff)


Edited by Trojar, 23 March 2015 - 12:30.


#20 Savanc

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Posted 24 March 2015 - 15:59

Ruining a part of the game that players enjoy, just to tackle the bot problem is never the answer :)

 

But there is nothing wrong with editing it slightly so (1) people who enjoy it can still enjoy it, and (2) people who bot can't bot there very well any longer.

Seems like changing a few melee creatures to ranges/spell creatures would be a nice move. It's still a good place to farm FP then, but not so good for botting. ;)


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