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Yes Clock i know the rational behind the BB...its not the level loss that i am talking about im sure you must be smart enough to read that again , what i am saying is exp gain should not be awarded unless it is awarded for all aspects of pvp, level 2000 farming level 60 players for exp. Gold and FSP are award enough. I think this will ultimately be the nail in the coffin of the BB.

I think you have a problem in making people get your point but I got it and you are wrong, I don't want the xp limited to bounty attacks only, I want it through out every pvp aspect If its made right, and no there will be farming cause the xp gain will differ according to the difference in level between the bounty hunter and the guy getting cleared on board and the amount of stam used, so no it won't be abused very badly and actually what doesn't get abused in the game ?

This topic talks about a couple of things so please read all

GvG medals:
So, I think this isn't the first time the GvG medals idea get brought up but I think the talk about them has been for years now and as far as I can remember but still hasn't got implemented, I think GvG deserves at least 2 medals implemented, I mean even composing got 2 medals right after it was added to the game, so why not GvG ??! Its one of the main aspects in the game and adding medals to it will encourage players to get into it, I am not good at making detailed ideas and I am sure all of you guys can have more ideas but I made a couple of suggestions for new GvG medals (names are just examples)

•The Sword: participate in "X" initiated Guild Conflict victories (only players who complete their 25 hits count towards the medal)
•The Shield: Successfully defend "X" guild conflicts (participants with atleast 25 hits count towards the medal)
•The Invincible: Complete "X" conflicts without missing or losing a hit regardless of the overall conflict result (only 25 hits if its an initiate and atleast 25 hits if its a defend counts)

-This was just an example that can be changed/edited afterwards.
-NOTE: Conflicts ending in a draw doesn't count towards The Sword and The Shield medals.


Top rated GvGers
Simply a top rated page that shows the top 250 GvGers according to the number of full (25 hits on an initiate and atleast 25 hits in a defend) Conflict wins.


Top rated Dominants
I always wondered why there is a top rated kill streak page but there isn't a top rated PvP ladder Dominance page that contains the top 250 PvP ladder Dominant players according to the number of hours on the first place spot, this will be the first top rated page that directly has a thing to do with being on the ladder only, maybe its a good idea ?


Top rated Prizes
This one is for all the top rated page aspects, so what does a player get from excelling in his aspect and be on the top rated page and climbing it hard to the top ? Other than his name listed in a list that rarely anybody check or know who is on it. Shouldn't there be a Prize for being listed in the top 250 ? A prize that is related to the aspect of each top rated page and that varies from top (1-10) (11-50) (51-100) (101-150) (151-200) (201-250) for example, the prizes can be determined by HCS or you can give suggestions ?

Maybe atleast one of these ideas can be useful ? I am looking forward to what you guys thinks and we can work together and have ideas to make this better, let me know what you think, thanks

It was entirely achievable, as several players have pointed out.

Well, players' stam got wasted on titans, LEs, quests, etc... However we have to move on anyway, I think the next event will be the double XP one around Christmas

First off you didn't read what I said crystal and below tier. We didn't get players 1k level higher or lower they were in a certain range. Second pvp is already a pillow fight xp loss who cares. You go attacking players knowing what they are wearing majority of time. buffs on, all you have to do is some math and put on some gear not rocket science.

why is every high level leveller complaining that PvP seasons got removed ? If you want the reward now then get on your ladder and fight for your epic chest, after all according to you PvP is a piece of cake or are you guys afraid of losing levels on ladder that much that you liked PvP seasons for havinh no XP loss ?

haha really? didnt you see pvp season once first batch of pots was release. no skill was needed with those pots. just hit and smash. in crystal tier and down i was lucky to win getting the 2% i assume player using those pots
 
 
... now i would like to thank whoever got this im set with pots for the next year. Not the best idea cows had giving into pvper demands they just screwed a ton of parts of the game

again with PvP seasons ? In titan tier you vould hit players thousands of levels less than you, it didn't require any skill, if you had given an EOCer account with 50K max stam to a 5 year old he could have gotten first place

So now epic potions ruin the game ? Hmmmm..... I didn't see anyone complain when everyone was given this same epic chest for doing (what was the number of pillow fights req. ?) Oh I think 20 attacks with 50 stam which is around 1K stam, with 0 XP and even no durability loss

With that in mind, given that using 1K stam hitting hitting players thousands of levels less than you with no XP loss has been given an awesome EPIC chest then the least we deserve is this, we spend tons of stam each reset, lose tons of XP and lvls, enormous amount of time just to get 5 tokens every 2 days given that you were good enough to get first, and the cost to make this epic chests is 70 tokens which is exactly around A MONTH on ladder if you got first place each reset during that month, do you even know how much of levels you need to lose to get one of those chests ?

I just want to make sure that there is 0% chance of failure in inventing the chests cuz that would be crazy wasting this huge amount of tokens lol

I do think we need more rewards for sure - I'm going to be looking at what else we're going to with BigGrim and Mojawk soon

ok, thanks hoof also its not about just the number of rewards, you can have tons of rewards that nobody likes but you can have one or a few rewards that will attach everybody

 

Perhaps the reward can be on a sliding scale like GE's (Ruby, Crystal, etc...)... the more participants in the ladder, the more epic the reward. If it's a sparse ladder, you get sparse rewards ;-p If you can survive the blood bath of a crowded ladder, you deserve epicness.

This is actually a good idea, but it needs some more specifications, for example you can have a ladder with 30 people on it but with only 3 or 4 really active and hitting and on the other hand you can have a ladder with 6 or 7 people on it but they are all active and smashing

Nice items but I am having a really hard time to discover what is needed to invent the lvl 460 set also can't know what there stats are, nothing about it on official guide

We've added both to the Ladder Reward page. We're thinking that we may well use these to allow players to build Chests of Epic potions of a similar style to the season Epic Chests. Probably not as powerful but most likely with a greater duration. As such, they have a very high value.

That's good, I like the epic pots idea

Looking forward for the items ro be invented using the trophies and spirits we got from the seasons cuz they are taking alot of BP space for no reason

As a low level bounty hunter, I am with the XP loss for the hunter BUT I have faced big problems accepting bounties after the XP loss for the hunter have been added, before they added the XP loss I used to accept high level bounties and swing in a suicide setup but after XP loss have been added I tried swinging in a high level bounty and I have lost a Full complete level doing it, and the reward isn't even worth mentioning, I only kept on with the bounty cuz I started it and I can't stop until I finish, so I spent 1 level, 1 hour, 1 bounty ticket 1 or 2 fsps on buffs and around 2000 stam (Cuz I was smashing the bounty) and I got absolutely nothing, as suggested above, I think having XP rewarded for successful hits you make is the least to do to make it worth accepting a bounty and losing levels clearing it, maybe it can go like this:-

-Player X (lvl 300) hits player Y (lvl 1900) on board and wins
-Player Y loses "insert XP loss here" XP
-Player X gets a percent of the XP the other player lost, let's say 15-20% of the XP lost from the other player ?
-If Player A (lvl 2000) hits Player B (lvl 900), Player A gets no XP because the guy he is hitting is already a lower lvl than his.


^^^^^^Benefits from the above:-
1- Bounty Board gets more activity.
2- Low levels would work hard to accept very high level bounties so they can get more XP.
3- More real fighting on the BB.


~So what do you guys think of this ?~

hun, can you please explain why you rewarded the season participants with 12 EPIC potions + PvP prestige pot + other items BUT refuse to put same equivalent rewards on the PvP ladder too?
 
the reasoning that the season lasts longer than the PvP ladder does not count because you could just increase (adjust) the token prices & would easily solve it !!!
the reasoning that the season uses more stamina than the PvP ladder does not count because those who have played the PvP ladder know that you would need a lot to keep competing !!! I played the 800-899 PvP band for 1,5+ years and NEVER reached max stam, even had to skip 2 xp events & when I wanted to hunt I had to buy stamina !!!
 
still do not believe it then grim OPT-INTO the PvP ladder for a week and participate, then you can see for yourself how many resources (stamina, ....), how many tokens & much XP you will lose in 1 week playing the PvP ladder
 
I fear that you are greatly underestimating the PvP ladder (resources, token rewards, xp loss, time, ...) !!!
 
when you released the 12 EPIC potion rewards for the season you had no plan to revert back to the PvP ladder (that came later) !!! that means that if the season stayed you would have given 12 EPIC potions + PvP prestige pot + other items every 3 weeks to crystalline league (NOT counting prices for titan league or the other leagues) !!!
 
you rewarded the season with AWESOME rewards & successfully draw activity
 
if your problem was that the EPIC potions from the PvP ladder would be sold then just make them BOUND like you did for the season, problem solved !!
 
I really hope the NEW sets you are about to release will be worth competing for, not like the potions

Well said here!!! Not trying to discourage the devs but I can't see myself benefitting by anyway from the potions you added, I am a ladder player and they don't attract me by anyway, the ladder rewards are still useless to me, its like you didn't add any new rewards, I really dislike potion rewards but if you need to add any then give us EPIC CHESTS, like you did for seasons and you will see levellers rushing to the ladder before PvPers to get EPIC CHESTS for their hunts, but these simple small potions are 100% worthless to me, eben the prestige pot, the only pot I may cobsider is the cloak pot and I still will rarely buy it, add epic chests to get activity, are you telling me that seasons would have had any activity if it wasn't for the Epic rewards ? Also be fast on making recipes for items to invent by these things you gave us from seasons cuz they are just taking space on BP and I fear that you won't give us any jtems to invent except in a couple of years, also the ladder is like 24-48 hours and you are giving us 30 and 60 min. Pots ? Are you serious ? With all do respect to the devs but I think you guys are joking with those ladder rewards and if you think you are bringing back activity by this then you are wrong. THANKS

What about "improvements" to PvP and bounty board ? Yeah the things you added are good and helpful to the design of it but hou said you were going to add actual improvements to inc PvP activity and several players said what they wanted to see, so are you going to add any ?

Quite frankly I'm sick and tired of this PvP debate...a solution was tried it was screamed down by PvP'ers who now want alternatives...I say move PvP revisions to the back of the line and deal with the Arena problems, GvG problems and the myriad of other problems this game has before revisiting a segment of the game that a small but vocal minority continually complain about.

Hoof said to start new threads about these too, so come on and start the threads yourself

Hoof, I understand that BG is out for a couple of weeks but my BP is full of things that I consider junk until I know how I can use them, I need each and every BP space I can as I don't have the pleasure of having 500 BP slots and I need to atoee my PvP items and sets in there so we need a quick solution to this massive amount of seasonal trophies and spirits and son't forget about chests from both tbe global event and pvp seasons, that's a lot of space IMO