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#1 UrcK

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Posted 24 February 2015 - 15:17

 How many times must we fail to meet the 17.5 million goal before it is lowered to what is possible and achievable for our current community .. as we fail to meet the goals each time the player base gets smaller and morale goes down .. I could go on and on about how stupid it is to set your player base up for failure or to blame 'us' for not reaching the goal .. but i'll let the community do that in the posts that follow this before this gets locked.

 

 



#2 UrcK

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Posted 24 February 2015 - 15:27

Ruby Cut are the most coveted chests in the game .. to dangle them in front of the whole community then say their work wasn't good enuf to earn them if you didn't have a huge stam bank is  sick and twisted.



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Posted 24 February 2015 - 15:32

Time to make each tier 3m instead of 3.5?

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Posted 24 February 2015 - 15:46

I don't understand why the tiers weren't lowered. The number of active players has fallen greatly since the original 17.5M kill count was introduced the first time. How can it be justified that a lot of players spend tens of thousands of stamina only to fall 2.5 MILLION kills below the goal? As Urck says, it just lowers morale: I'm not complaining that we got crystal again, I'm complaining because an unrealistic goal was set, again!

#5 Hoofmaster

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Posted 24 February 2015 - 15:51

Appreciate the feedback on this! We'll take it into account for the next event :)



#6 UrcK

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Posted 24 February 2015 - 15:57

I love ya hoof .. but fixing it for Darksun after 99% of the community misses out on Ruby Cuts will be a huge slap in the face ...



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Posted 24 February 2015 - 15:57

Appreciate the feedback on this! We'll take it into account for the next event :)

Thing is the next vanilla global event will be Zogrom vs Shroud and, I'll go out on a limb here, the vast majority of the community do not care  for the chests handed out as rewards for that event... I have lost track of the number of times the community, as a whole, has stated the total is too high, both before and after an event, yet nothing has been done. To not take into consideration the dwindling activity in this game is naive and ignorant. However, at least you bothered to respond Hoof albeit being too late for this particular event.

 

One, of many I would imagine, very unhappy member of the community :( 



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Posted 24 February 2015 - 16:37

I only did my 5K this time around, and this is why.  Global Events are costly ventures, in repair costs and in stam usage.  I don't have a huge stam bank, and when there are frag stashes, I hunt these guys 1X1, like many other composing addicts do.  That is very time consuming, yet I managed my 5K kills in about an hour (including 2 brief periods of waiting for the laptop to cool down, as the map overheats it and shuts it down).  There was also irritating lag, some skeeters taking as long a 5 seconds to go down.  All these things are frustrating, and take away from any fun....  

 

So, I have some requests:

Can we give these beasties a little gold to defray repair costs?  Just a fraction of what the regular lvl 25 beastie has in his pocket would be fine.  At least they would pay for themselves, not looking for a profit here.... Can you make the map a little more efficient so it doesn't overheat the laptop?  Having my system shut itself down in the middle of an hunt is irritating at best.... I can't repeat the words I scream each time it happens.... Lastly, this lag is incredibly bad.  I never had this much trouble on dialup.  It's 2015, FS should be FASTER than in 2007, not slower.  Hoof, please fix this before next event????


Edited by BadPenny, 24 February 2015 - 16:38.

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Posted 24 February 2015 - 16:47

Not to mention the enormous lag during the last 2 hours of the event. Halfway thru my session with 1 hour remaining in the event, I was forced to use a GB 750 just to make sure I'd make it to top 100. It still boggles my mind why and how a simple browser game such as Fallen Sword with only 400+ active players at a given time can be this slow. Game performance has regressed as less and less players continue to play this game.



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Posted 24 February 2015 - 16:48

Thing is the next vanilla global event will be Zogrom vs Shroud and, I'll go out on a limb here, the vast majority of the community do not care  for the chests handed out as rewards for that event... I have lost track of the number of times the community, as a whole, has stated the total is too high, both before and after an event, yet nothing has been done. To not take into consideration the dwindling activity in this game is naive and ignorant. However, at least you bothered to respond Hoof albeit being too late for this particular event.

 

One, of many I would imagine, very unhappy member of the community :(

 

We're listening and we'll definately take it into account in future events. Who says the next one will be Zogrom vs Shroud? :)



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Posted 24 February 2015 - 16:49

Not to mention the enormous lag during the last 2 hours of the event. Halfway thru my session with 1 hour remaining in the event, I was forced to use a GB 750 just to make sure I'd make it to top 100. It still boggles my mind why and how a simple browser game such as Fallen Sword with only 400+ active players at a given time can be this slow. Game performance has regressed as less and less players continue to play this game.

 

We're going to take a look into this further - I agree there is no way it should be slower.



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Posted 24 February 2015 - 16:55

And can we fix the map so it doesn't overheat my laptop anymore?  I use chrome, and FSH is not enabled, I don't use it for hunting *beasties*, and FS is the only site where I have this problem.... and I play a couple of other games that use a lot more resources for graphics, etc.... This shouldn't be happening, at least I think it shouldn't.


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Posted 24 February 2015 - 16:58

hoof! sense your on and answering Comments / Complaints. ( first of I agree with Most everything people have been Posting in this Topic ) 17.5 Million. Ughhh . tough to reach..  but i have been for the last few days been trying to get a Yes it will be coming soon or a NO just wait and it will arrive  from someone on the HCS team.. so ill ask One last time sense i see you on here answering others ... With 4 days left in February will we be seeing a FSP's sale.. think a 4 day length of sale is good and usually what most are.. ...



#14 Davros81

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Posted 24 February 2015 - 16:58

I say the Zogrom vs Shroud based on which events have occurred previous and the fact that it would seem next in line, if you take the fragment global events out of the equation, which I do as they run on a different kill contribution ratio.



#15 shindrak

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Posted 24 February 2015 - 16:59

Even 10m kill total will be too much in the future

I said in another thread new global events require activity more than burning lots of stamina will be more interesting for all players not just the ones with big stamina


Edited by shindrak, 24 February 2015 - 17:00.


#16 yotwehc

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Posted 24 February 2015 - 17:07

Is lowering the bar what we should be doing? Are we supposed to get ruby every time? Wiki shows our first 15 globals and we did not get ruby in 6 out of 15. Now we are demanding we get it everytime? Perhaps the solution is to make the event more scarce (1 every 3-4 months) and have mini globals in between. The royal chest event just happened in January (we hit ruby)? And a month later the cut ruby? If anything, I think we ask and are given too much. I'm just as guilty as someone pointed out that I asked for commons to come out of these mosquitoes. (thanks for that btw. Anyone know where I can buy new keys? Specifically the 0-5 keys. Mashing them 40k times is not healthy;)

Edited by yotwehc, 24 February 2015 - 17:09.


#17 hades8840

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Posted 24 February 2015 - 17:12

actually 17.5 million wasnt out of reach we did it in january so whats changed nothing just ppl choose not to par take take any top guild check its members see how many are sitting on 20k plus unused stam the total had nothing to do with failing ..it was the willingness of others to use there stam ..change the top 100 infact do anyway with the top anything on globals tier the chests you get 2 extra top chests for 50k kills plus 1 extra for 30k plus and the normal 3 if we make the total kills..that way anyone spending the stam isnt left out

 

if you listen to what most say in the thread take a look at the profiles first most are sitting on some hefty stam banks if they wasnt prepared to spend that stam then why lower the totals needed ..if you lower it give it a couple events and they will complain again thats too high they want the pots they dont want to earn them

 

now a few will have done above what is needed but bet there will be some who didnt



#18 shindrak

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Posted 24 February 2015 - 17:21

No we arent demanding ruby evertime ... number of kills to achieve any tier is unreal for average players(20k stamina players)

 

Why would the big stamina players spend all they got to get too much kills for community eveytime?

this time not all of big stamina bankers spent as much as before so we didnt achieve it because they still have enough epic pots till their big stamina fill up...

 

 

Game shouldnt rely on afew players with big stamina bank.  this is the point


Edited by shindrak, 24 February 2015 - 17:23.


#19 hades8840

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Posted 24 February 2015 - 17:34

No we arent demanding ruby evertime ... number of kills to achieve any tier is unreal for average players(20k stamina players)

 

Why would the big stamina players spend all they got to get too much kills for community eveytime?

this time not all of big stamina bankers spent as much as before so we didnt achieve it because they still have enough epic pots till their big stamina fill up...

 

 

Game shouldnt rely on afew players with big stamina bank.  this is the point

again total doesnt need lowering  either change it so more gain a bonus chest as suggested above or next time spend your stam to either get into the top 100 or to help the community reach their goal ... there is more then enough ppl with the stam to get the total needed they just didnt use it

 

 

am curious shin did you even bother with this event?


Edited by hades8840, 24 February 2015 - 17:35.


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Posted 24 February 2015 - 17:42

actually 17.5 million wasnt out of reach we did it in january so whats changed nothing just ppl choose not to par take take any top guild check its members see how many are sitting on 20k plus unused stam the total had nothing to do with failing ..it was the willingness of others to use there stam ..change the top 100 infact do anyway with the top anything on globals tier the chests you get 2 extra top chests for 50k kills plus 1 extra for 30k plus and the normal 3 if we make the total kills..that way anyone spending the stam isnt left out

 

if you listen to what most say in the thread take a look at the profiles first most are sitting on some hefty stam banks if they wasnt prepared to spend that stam then why lower the totals needed ..if you lower it give it a couple events and they will complain again thats too high they want the pots they dont want to earn them

 

now a few will have done above what is needed but bet there will be some who didnt

I don't think you understand the point here. Doesn't matter who did or didn't use their stam. It is a matter of the attitude of the players. Not everyone is going to try to accomplish the unachievable. It is called discouragement and many of us feel discouraged due to wasting thousands upon thousands of stam and never making it to even the top 100. And then we get even more let down by not making it to the top tier. So why even try?


Edited by Rasputin, 24 February 2015 - 17:44.

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