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#141 Ringhal

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Posted 03 November 2015 - 19:29

The potions in the chest will be useful to some players, but worthless to most.



#142 Pardoux

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Posted 03 November 2015 - 19:34

It was entirely achievable, as several players have pointed out.

 

The "problem" with the event is that, yes, it was easily achievable, but it would involve the majority of players going for the "Emaciated Fellow" kills and that drops the tentacle. Plus all the other excitement of new titans, new quests and new LE's.

 

That said, we sink or swim by the results of our own efforts - we've hit around the 65m kills previously on this event, after all .

 

So, we failed on this one - ho hum - on to the next one. We'll live :)


Homer : Marge, don't discourage the boy. Weaseling out of things is important to learn. It's what separates us from the animals .. except the weasel.

 

Eddie Izzard : The National Rifle Association say that guns don't kill people, people do. But I think the gun helps, you know ? I think it helps. I think just standing there going "BANG" - that's not going to kill too many people, is it ?

 

I don't mean to sound pessimistic, but it seems that everything I eat lately turns to poo ...


#143 EpicPiety

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Posted 03 November 2015 - 19:39

The "problem" with the event is that, yes, it was easily achievable, but it would involve the majority of players going for the "Emaciated Fellow" kills and that drops the tentacle. Plus all the other excitement of new titans, new quests and new LE's.

 

That said, we sink or swim by the results of our own efforts - we've hit around the 65m kills previously on this event, after all .

 

So, we failed on this one - ho hum - on to the next one. We'll live :)

Totally right...Maybe if people are disappointed we need to change our priorities next event.



#144 clock96

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Posted 03 November 2015 - 19:40

It was entirely achievable, as several players have pointed out.

Well, players' stam got wasted on titans, LEs, quests, etc... However we have to move on anyway, I think the next event will be the double XP one around Christmas


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#145 johnagod

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Posted 03 November 2015 - 21:27

It was entirely achievable, as several players have pointed out.

 

You lowered personal targets and raised the overall target. Released new titans and new quests and still expect people to use all of their stamina on the global event (killing only emaciated fellows which would yield the most kills). I don't know anymore...



#146 shindrak

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Posted 03 November 2015 - 21:58

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lol we haven't been in Legion of fallen gods for many years.. only 1 year...

 

Are you supposed to tell us how to play and where to play?

 

you have no idea on why or where or what we want to go or do so keep your business to yourself and stop calling names in your posts


Edited by shindrak, 03 November 2015 - 22:14.


#147 EpicPiety

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Posted 03 November 2015 - 22:24

lol we haven't been in Legion of fallen gods for many years.. only 1 year...

 

Are you supposed to tell us how to play and where to play?

 

you have no idea on why or where or what we want to go or do so keep your business to yourself and stop calling names in your posts

He's just sour at us over obvious things... He's been name calling and acting immature ever since. His posts are quite entertaining though at the very least. The rest of his guild is very respectable though :) good bunch.


Edited by EpicPiety, 03 November 2015 - 22:28.


#148 Egami

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Posted 03 November 2015 - 22:33

Congrats to all who achieved the free Silver Tier rewards.  Special thanks and congrats out to all those crazy people in the top 100 who blew away anybody else with more than 125,000 smacks and got "rewarded" with the top tier chests. I'm too lazy to add up, but I kind of wonder if they are all responsible for one entire tier, lol.

 

I get the vibe that overall, the overall event was well received. Are we really going to decide based on the Community Tier we got? 

 

For me, no. In fact, I'm not even disappointed. I did NOT actually see much Community spirit directed at the Global Event itself, but I did see tons of people happy with Zombie Brews that again contributed to the GE. 

 

The base scenario is that one has to choose their priorities. I did. I reached my max stam of 18k and then logged almost 47k kills thanks to using three (yes, 3) GE pots. I hit keys for well over 10 hours during the event. Not a single moment of that was "really" dedicated to the community. I chose what I wanted to do this time and did it. I could have gotten more hits (dang noobishness also due to priorities) even doing just what I was doing. Had I been full-on community (with a little "selfish" top 100 thrown in), I would have logged over 200k hits. I didn't, that wasn't my choice.

 

It's natural. Quests, Titans, Zombie Brews, leveling, PvPing, and the list goes on and on... People decide what they want to do. 

 

If you're unhappy with the tier we reached... well, there's always next year to better plan your community strategy. ,oP

 

Again, thanks HCS for the event and prosperous smacking to everybody who are still fighting it out with the Titans or doing quests! (o0



#149 UrcK

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Posted 03 November 2015 - 23:14

 This seems to be the M.O. when the good rewards are out .. Between screwing us over on the Ruby Cuts and the Vampirics .. I see the pattern ..


Edited by UrcK, 03 November 2015 - 23:33.


#150 Pythia

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Posted 03 November 2015 - 23:51

If they raise the needed number of kills to 25k, I'll need to work harder. Good thing I add base stam every hunt. Growing slow is ok with me because I'm on a slow boat to EOC anyway. lol



#151 cyrus7

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Posted 03 November 2015 - 23:54

Special thanks and congrats out to all those crazy people in the top 100 who blew away anybody else with more than 125,000 smacks and got "rewarded" with the top tier chests. I'm too lazy to add up, but I kind of wonder if they are all responsible for one entire tier, lol.

Thanks to Microsoft Excel, I have that total.
The Top 100 players made 21,280,413 kills.
The goal was 75,000,000; each tier was 15,000,000.
We didn't quite make it to the Gold tier, so we made under 45,000,000 kills total.
Therefore, the Top 100 players made at least 47% of the total kills which were made this event.
This also means that the Top 100 made 28.37% of the total community goal.


#152 cyrus7

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Posted 03 November 2015 - 23:59

If they raise the needed number of kills to 25k, I'll need to work harder. 

If you only hit the Emaciated Fellow (counts as 5 kills), that's only 5k actual kills, which is usually the individual goal on other events. :)



#153 yotwehc

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Posted 04 November 2015 - 00:05

 

Thanks to Microsoft Excel, I have that total.
The Top 100 players made 21,280,413 kills.
The goal was 75,000,000; each tier was 15,000,000.
We didn't quite make it to the Gold tier, so we made under 45,000,000 kills total.
Therefore, the Top 100 players made at least 47% of the total kills which were made this event.
This also means that the Top 100 made 28.37% of the total community goal.

 

Beat me to it! boooo... I have excel in front of me with the total. lol



#154 UrcK

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Posted 04 November 2015 - 00:08

This is one of my biggest beefs with THIS particular event .. BigGrim has promised in the past that we would have hidden targets so that the people that did more than minimum but not top 100 would not feel so jilted... it was just untrue.

Edited by BigGrim, 04 November 2015 - 10:59.
Swearing and flamebait removed.


#155 Pythia

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Posted 04 November 2015 - 00:20

Well, I was striving for Ruby with my 247?? kills. LOL  I'll get more next GE..



#156 Pardoux

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Posted 04 November 2015 - 00:28

This is one of my biggest beefs with THIS particular event .. BigGrim has promised in the past that we would have hidden targets so that the people that did more than minimum but not top 100 would not feel so jilted... it was just untrue.

 
There is a WORLD of difference between SAYING something will change and it ACTUALLY changing.
 
After over 7 yrs in the game, you should know this by now wink.png

Homer : Marge, don't discourage the boy. Weaseling out of things is important to learn. It's what separates us from the animals .. except the weasel.

 

Eddie Izzard : The National Rifle Association say that guns don't kill people, people do. But I think the gun helps, you know ? I think it helps. I think just standing there going "BANG" - that's not going to kill too many people, is it ?

 

I don't mean to sound pessimistic, but it seems that everything I eat lately turns to poo ...


#157 yghorbeviahn

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Posted 04 November 2015 - 00:43

I really see no problem with the Silver Chests, yeah, they'll be wasted, but that is not the problem.

The Global itself was very bad planned.

HCS looked at the total kills of the last GE and used it to raise this goal, but the last event was so high because the critters dropped really nice Frag Stashes, so people killed a LOT just to get the frags, not the Global.

This Global we had 0 critters dropping frags, and we had new Titans, ZBs, Quests and LEs...

 



#158 Egami

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Posted 04 November 2015 - 00:44

*bows to cy's Excel sheet (and lack of laziness)* Seriously, thanks and wow. 

 

On the individual thingie (if you're not already skipping my entire post, you can skip the following three paragraph "preview" to get to my opinion and if you really, really what to avoid the typical Egami diatribe, you could just drop down to the bold, lol)... 

 

Preview: Somebody up there made a great point that 75 million divided by 5 based on Emaciated was 15 million. I really like the point -like really, really, and I think I even "liked it"- lol. Even so, I don't think that's a good measure. It's not straight up because I believe we tend to concentrate a bit more on stam. There are tons of other variables, but I'd just remind people that Emaciated does have the Hypnotize enhancement... so, well, yeah. Let's make it simpler:

 

The Free Roaming Vapors have a 46 First Strike enhancement. So for a one hit, you'd be better off stam-wise to hit the Pesky Spook. 

 

Does that make it simpler? Regardless, it doesn't make it relevant for the actual point, but I just love to remind people to think about creature stats and enhancements, lmao.

 

END OF PREVIEW

 

... I'm not very key on upping the minimum. It's totally a personal and debatable opinion. There are plenty that simply do the minimum, but we can't forget about players that don't have too much stam. Again, it's everybody's decision what to do. But based on Enhancements, I'm not too sure that the 5 hit possibility is a straight up calc. 

 

Regardless, and if I step back, I don't know how many actual people play FS. But I "assume" (yeah, yeah, I know what they say about that) that there is some calc involved regarding that data. So, in my opinion only, if every single active player in the game did only the minimum... then I'd think it might be over-generous to give the FS Community even the first tier. Everyone out for themselves and we still get a prize in a Community event? Hmmm... 

 

The point: upping the minimum to get the overall Community a better prize doesn't seem, to me, to be very logical. For me (has everyone noticed how I continue to emphasize that this is just the way I personally see it? lmao), the GE is a Community event that requires the Community to work together.

 

So just maybe, people are apt to do the minimum number of kills just because... sure. This time they got "screwed" (I actually don't believe that) because they did the minimum and only got the silver tier prizes. Some of them actually wait until the end and base the kills on what they think the Community will get. 

 

My personal logic says that the key to getting the top tier in a "Global Event" is to inspire the Community to work together towards that goal. How much effort the FS Community puts in is what should determine the prize. 

 

Just food for thought ,oP



#159 Pardoux

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Posted 04 November 2015 - 00:48

I really see no problem with the Silver Chests, yeah, they'll be wasted, but that is not the problem.

The Global itself was very bad planned.

HCS looked at the total kills of the last GE and used it to raise this goal, but the last event was so high because the critters dropped really nice Frag Stashes, so people killed a LOT just to get the frags, not the Global.

This Global we had 0 critters dropping frags, and we had new Titans, ZBs, Quests and LEs...

 

 

Disagree.

 

Folk just had other priorities. The overall kill count was up somewhat from previous Halloween globals, but it's MEANT to be a challenge after all.

 

The first year results :-

 

30.10.2012 halloween_zpsb54673eb.png Oidche Shamhna I 67,559,336 Ruby

 

The 2nd year results :-

 

29.10.2013 halloween_zpsb54673eb.png Oidche Shamhna II 66,255,625 Ruby

 

The figures for last year werent on the wiki unfortunately, but as you can clearly see - the kill count WASN'T unattainable - we just chose to focus on other things this time around.


Edited by Pardoux, 04 November 2015 - 00:49.

Homer : Marge, don't discourage the boy. Weaseling out of things is important to learn. It's what separates us from the animals .. except the weasel.

 

Eddie Izzard : The National Rifle Association say that guns don't kill people, people do. But I think the gun helps, you know ? I think it helps. I think just standing there going "BANG" - that's not going to kill too many people, is it ?

 

I don't mean to sound pessimistic, but it seems that everything I eat lately turns to poo ...


#160 Rasputin

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Posted 04 November 2015 - 01:01

Thanks for the fun! 


Edited by Rasputin, 04 November 2015 - 01:07.

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