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@Leos.. this was not made out of boredom.. I could be playing OW right now .. it was about a realization that noone will ever have #1 player ever again with the current system... and that last time this happened the cows fixed it.. and they need to fix it again. I wish it were someone else in another guild so you couldnt pull the MoM card...
#1 player discussion
Started by UrcK, Oct 31 2016 17:40
88 replies to this topic
#42
Posted 31 October 2016 - 20:45
I knew there was a diminishing return, but seriously, at that level above EOC, 150K will only get you FOUR levels ?
D_A_Y_U_M ...
less if your not using 500's or bigger
and i dont want to take from boats accomplishment.. no doubt it wasnt easy or cheap.. congrats to him.. but this system was broken b4 and fixed .. for the same reason
Edited by UrcK, 31 October 2016 - 20:49.
#43
Posted 31 October 2016 - 20:45
What your saying is people who invested in max stamina should be handicapped. LMAO oh come on man LOL.
If the forum archives went back far enough, I could find a very similar thread when they took away the ability to buy xp over EOC.
#44
Posted 31 October 2016 - 20:48
But here is where i don't understand? Going back to new players being demoralized don't you think if there was a bunch more content releases that would be even more demoralizing? Slower content releases are good for new players. Your whole argument is contradiction. level 10k is clearly more demoralizing then level 3000. There needs to be a leveling advantage to lower players like 3x xp that slowly detoriates to 2x at level 1000 to 1.5 at 2k etc.
I think seeing more than half the active players in FS at or around the same level is far more demoralizing than seeing 1 or 2 at the metaphorical level 10k, or in this case 4k. I'm more excited in any new MMO when I see a separation of levels TBH. What it shows is variety and a healthy release of new content.
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#45
Posted 31 October 2016 - 20:50
Regardless there are apparent issues here with FS. Which are very obvious. HCS isn't making a strive to fix the issue which is one of the biggest issue in FS. New players will never be able to reach EoC without donating now. They need to do something about that. They probably won't. Boat's earned his spot. End of story.
Edited by EpicPiety, 31 October 2016 - 20:51.
#46
Posted 31 October 2016 - 20:52
Regardless there are apparent issues here with FS. Which are very obvious. HCS isn't making a strive to fix the issue which is one of the biggest issue in FS. New players will never be able to reach EoC without donating now. They need to do something about that. They probably won't. Boat's earned his spot. End of story.
I don't think you'll find anyone here saying he didn't earn his spot, and from everything I've heard he has a lot of respect. It's definitely about a bigger issue.
#47
Posted 31 October 2016 - 20:52
We should restructure the lists to show incentive to beat the number one player. I know if I was new player looking a list that did not seem to change much looks like dead list. Since fs in in a unique position to have players at eoc and still adding more how do we keep both ends of spectrum interested in our game so we have a pulse and not be put on a shelf of forget we existed game.
I have stated it is not right to punish a player that has the resource to maintain a status yet we need to show activity in all aspect of the game. I do not have a solution but I would like to see the biggest and toughest players here to help a player like me find a solution to the dilemma. The key thing is we need players playing the fs game. So we should look at this in new player perspective and not end of player on how a new player sees lists not moving around many years or not seeing much in updates to game or problems with game might make you think game is not worth playing.
I hope that big guilds will see perspective of lower players starting game view, which is different than eoc game player view. This tight rope is hard line to sort. I have stated this many times in my posts when I am on we need everybody playing and playing fs with fun and challenge to all.
The best way is to make a split on how lists show top players. For example take top xp list now and divide the list with top xp and stamina as one list since the two seem to go hand and hand. World list show things as is. I think like we did something similar with guilds xp lists when things got stagnate. This change guild top lists perspective from dead guilds with large xp standings. Please community lets work together and not bicker on who is right and only one way of things. We do need to think outside the box to solve these things for all of our sake as players and for those yet to be part of the community. Plus keep in mind it is fs staff that has final say what they want out of this game and their consultation for improvements is important too.
Edited by bigchaos, 31 October 2016 - 20:55.
#48
Posted 31 October 2016 - 20:55
I don't think you'll find anyone here saying he didn't earn his spot, and from everything I've heard he has a lot of respect. It's definitely about a bigger issue.
Eldevin syndrome is going on now. Just this time it's not eldevin. We are used to it. We will continue to wither. They won't try to fix the game only bandage it with events and small updates to get us to log in every day. They won't mend it from the foundation up.
#49
Posted 31 October 2016 - 20:55
I don't think you'll find anyone here saying he didn't earn his spot, and from everything I've heard he has a lot of respect. It's definitely about a bigger issue.
Then tell your guild to campaign instead for that issue rather than trying to dismiss his accomplishment's earned entirely fairly.
#50
Posted 31 October 2016 - 20:57
If the forum archives went back far enough, I could find a very similar thread when they took away the ability to buy xp over EOC.
There is a difference. Buying xp was a constant rate, subleveling has diminishing returns. This allows people to productively use their Stam while waiting for content. You do realize your asking for this to be taken away and everyone stuck at the exact content level? Which means there is even less to do with your Stam than there is in our current situation...
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#51
Posted 31 October 2016 - 20:57
Then tell your guild to campaign instead for that issue rather than trying to dismiss his accomplishment's earned entirely fairly.
Im not advocating for removing his medal.. evidently you do not understand the issue at hand.
#52
Posted 31 October 2016 - 20:57
I wrote an extremely long diatribe in response and just erased it. Decided to spare everybody.
Btw, I full on expect to be the number #1 player someday when I decide to dedicate my time and resources to it.
That is despite other priorities that I've had throughout my nine years here.
Based on join dates, most of you would be blown out of the water, lmao. But hey, I stand behind my personal choices. I don't think people should be discouraged from concentrating on a game aspect.
#53
Posted 31 October 2016 - 21:00
They are asking for #1 player to be traded. Whoever can level first can be #1 player until new content release. What does that have to do with being the "best player".
#54
Posted 31 October 2016 - 21:00
There is a difference. Buying xp was a constant rate, subleveling has diminishing returns. This allows people to productively use their Stam while waiting for content. You do realize your asking for this to be taken away and everyone stuck at the exact content level? Which means there is even less to do with your Stam than there is in our current situation..
no .. this would make it so folks could compete for #1 with saved quests .. like it used to be before $ bought the spot
and as far as doing sumting with the stam.. we got GXP after EOC implimented to fix what was a different problem.
Edited by UrcK, 31 October 2016 - 21:03.
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Posted 31 October 2016 - 21:02
no .. this would make it so folks could compete for #1 with saved quests .. like it used to be before $ bought the spot
So someone who has actually turned in their quests before would not be #1 for a long time? Seems like it would only benefit people at EOC who haven't done their quests.
Have you turned in yours?
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#56
Posted 31 October 2016 - 21:03
no .. this would make it so folks could compete for #1 with saved quests .. like it used to be before $ bought the spot
Out with the old in with the new. sounds like some people have been skipping quests. Your still able to do that now a days. I got #3 player during an XP event doing a bunch of quests.
Edited by EpicPiety, 31 October 2016 - 21:04.
#57
Posted 31 October 2016 - 21:05
I dare you to go back and look at my history .. I have NEVER advocated for sumthing that would just benefit me or anyone in my guild .. You have me to thank for the sweet badass backpacks we have and use now .. and for having the ability to contribute to the guild when at full stam with full GXP after EOC...
Your Welcome .. and you will have me to thank when we get this issue ironed out and you will realize it is for the best of all at EOC
Edited by UrcK, 31 October 2016 - 21:07.
#58
Posted 31 October 2016 - 21:08
I dare you to go back and look at my history .. I have NEVER advocated for sumthing that would just benefit me of anyone in my guild .. You have me to thank for the sweet badass backpacks we have and use now .. and for having the ability to contribute to the guild when at full stam with full GXP after EOC...
Not to toot my own horn but i asked BG in global chat awhile ago to extend backpack from 1500-1750. Which then started the whole extension of BP. Anyways that's super off topic... Thank you Urck for your lobbying it's much appreciated. Although with this issue i think your wrong. I disagree with gimping a player because they invested in max stam.
#59
Posted 31 October 2016 - 21:11
okay .. lets petition for a medal for most max stam.. but #1 player isnt spose to be based on who spent the most on stam bank
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#60
Posted 31 October 2016 - 21:12
okay .. lets petition for a medal for most max stam.. but #1 player isnt spose to be based on who spent the most on stam bank
It's also not supposed to be determined by who skipped the most quests? Like what? This is a game which requires minimal SKILL. Best player will never be skill based it will always be stamina based.
Edited by EpicPiety, 31 October 2016 - 21:14.
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