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[Hoofmaster]

Thank you to all players for their feedback on the previous revision.

We're going to try and keep this revision concise to make it easier to read/discuss.


[*:2yg0go4z]PvP Rating starts at 0 when the PvP Ladder resets.


[*:2yg0go4z]Remove the need for the PvP Ladder opt-in/out by reducing the xp loss by 75% when a player has 0 PvP Rating.


[*:2yg0go4z]PvP Rating can only be gained once from a player who has a PvP Rating of 0. (This prevents players not wanting to participate from being hit hourly for PvP Rating).


[*:2yg0go4z]If you are defeated in combat (attacking or defending), you will lose 50% of the equivalent PvP Rating you would have gained if you won the combat. Note that your PvP Rating can never be reduced below 0. Note also you can only gain PvP Rating when initiating combat.


[*:2yg0go4z]Reduce the cost of the PvP Protection and the Protect XP upgrade (XP Lock).


[*:2yg0go4z]PvP Rating can only be gained from a player who has been active in the last 48 hours.


[*:2yg0go4z]Players can only attack other players within +/-10 of their virtual level, unless they have a PvP Rating greater than 0 and are within the top 10 of their PvP Band - they can then attack any of the other top 10 players in their band.


[*:2yg0go4z]PvP Rating is gained with the following formula outwith the bounty board:

PvP Rating Gain = floor(Stamina Used * 0.5) + (floor(Stamina Used * 0.5) * (Opponent PvP Rating / Your PvP Rating))

The PvP Rating Gain is then capped by the amount of stamina used.


[*:2yg0go4z]PvP Rating is gained with the following formula when completing bounties:

PvP Rating Gain = floor(Stamina Used * 0.1) * (Opponent Level / Your Level) + (10 * (Wins / (Wins + Loses)))

[*:2yg0go4z]Change the Gloat/Honor skill to take/protect more gold.


[*:2yg0go4z]Addition of new bound potions for PvP rewards.


[*:2yg0go4z]Change Bounty Tickets so they are purchased with gold instead of Fallen Sword Points. (If this change goes ahead, your current Bounty Tickets will be converted back into Fallen Sword Points).
Please note that an in-game poll will be available within the next 30 minutes regarding this suggestion.

[Necra]

+1 - YES PLEASE

[livingsin]

this is PERFECT...I can deal with 75%reduction

[livingsin]

wheres the poll?

[LLAP]

Best by far, I think 75% reduction is a little over protective but we have to compromise at some point
I like it, glad you listened
+1 from me too!

[BaiLong]

This is the best we are going to come up with that both sides could possibly agree upon.

Thanks for listening Hoof.

[LLAP]

wheres the poll?

Please note that an in-game poll will be available within the next 30 minutes regarding this suggestion.

[Maehdros]

One major thing to include is the reduction of rating gained against anyone with 0 rating. To prevent players from only targetting levelers to safely pvp.It also makes them even less of a target. Reduced xp, low rating. normal gold.

[livingsin]

sorry was giddy over a GOOD suggestion

[BaiLong]

Hate to say it, but I might even dabble in the PvP world if such a revision is put in place lol :oops:

[Wiivja]

rev 5 was alot better sorry

[iut044]

[*]Reduce the cost of the PvP Protection and the Protect XP upgrade (XP Lock).

How much by and would you consider a permanent pvp protection upgrade ?

[Maehdros]

[*]If you are defeated in combat (attacking or defending), you will lose 50% of the equivalent PvP Rating you would have gained if you won the combat. Note that your PvP Rating can never be reduced below 0. Note also you can only gain PvP Rating when initiating combat.

Attacking and losing should cause you to lose rating. Agreed.


Being attacked and defeated should not result in rating being lost ( while the attacker gains something) thats rating transfer, and isnt wanted. Cumulative score is what is wanted.

[paingwin]

now the 75% is a bit high, BUT its worth it to get the approval of the entire community. i dont see this getting turned down by very many at all. but when did the loss of rating come into play? is that in general or on the BB?

[paingwin]

rev 5 was alot better sorry

LOL they offer you 75% reduction in lost exp and you wave it off like its nothing? wow

[Wiivja]

rev 5 was alot better sorry

LOL they offer you 75% reduction in lost exp and you wave it off like its nothing? wow

The other offered no xp and gold loss

[Maehdros]

BB wasn't mentioned. I think it still needs to take rating -- a PvPer who hits levelers for rating needs to place that rating at risk, since they often don't care about XP during their ladder fight, and they always hide their gold. BB probably shouldn't give rating tho, at least not outwith the +/-10 level band.


Leos mentioned Gaining rating only against those on the BB within 2 bands +/- of yourself. Would this work? Also.Rating cant be lost unless you hit someone and lose. Gaining rating by clearing bounties promotes bounty hunting..which is good. But There isnt a transfer.


One consequence of this is that a "pure" bounty hunter who does no other PvP can enjoy the 75% reduction in XP loss from counter-bounties. I tend to think that's a good thing.


Not sure what u mean? A bounty hunter would gain rating from clearing bounties. Thus opening themselves up to 100% xp loss.

So this looks to me to be heading the right direction. But you still haven't explained why you think non-Pvpers have to lose XP at all, Hoof.