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#21 redsmokeboy

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Posted 22 April 2015 - 23:40

  • ASV/ARG - Reward x2 per chest vs curnet 1 loot per chest small chance on glem - Def from side boss Spider
  • RG/BT - Reward Working just fine.

Note: Skelly boss in BT 2 of them most barly kill him to reward being glem gem for most part much harder kill then spider in RG for same reward compared to effort not worth killing skelly boss in BT.

Requst for skelly boss in BT be tweek so he would be worth killing.

 

Arean: For most rewards have not been worth runing from day 1 till now been suggested many time for tweeks in reward sys here yet see any change.

ToC at one point had greate rewards till was expoited to point dev changed it to being worless reward and pointless to even run.

Note: Was suggeted be more wave team compted better reward Like idea so far been no chance make it worth runing many run same reward, Now must kill boss at wave 10 get reward. even so team must die get loot vs chest spawn after kill boss keep going many ways make this worth runing.

 

World Boss:

So far been perty week in stander of world boss so far need more tweeks be worth calling them world boss.

Hopefully in time be worth calling World boss, vs another hp mob tank and spank. Rewards modist based on number people in fight minal 10 people for max reward.

World boss loot, all can get something when mail come's to Eldevin where every one help kill boss get mail - reward random with this every one can get some thing for helping kill boss.

thought will be need add some thing there saying need do minal of 20k dmg get reward so force people to at leaast help kill boss vs stand around get some thing for nothing.

 

Troll - where Mail sys can help here every who helps kill it get reward, Need do % of dmg of Heath to boss or some other factor consider reward.

 

ICC - Unable find group even run this not even step foot in so far not much can say here other then seeking help geting no where.


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#22 AwiesGoesRawr

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Posted 23 April 2015 - 13:54

I cant remember when I did dungeon last time.

 

 

People are not willing to run them so nothing really to do in game.

 

 

 

Solo endgame stuff would be nice, instead of skilling grinding.


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#23 Ood

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Posted 23 April 2015 - 15:27

Why run ASV now when you can get fabled set in few days in ICC


1. Can't do ICC, can do ASV
2. I know what I'm getting with ASV set.

Those who can and have been running ICC, for the most part, already had ASV set. For those of us that did not have it before the update, we can't find a group willing to bring us with them on a successful ICC run, and together without enough ASV gear, we cannot complete on our own.

#24 Anameisaname

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Posted 23 April 2015 - 16:01

Didn't a few people in thread say it's possible to do icc with no fabled at all?

 

And you get 2/4 relics every run which is 8 min max so it's pretty quick for relics.. And you don't get wiped often if your tank/heal know what they are doing, which is the biggest problem as i've seen so many quit because they couldn't do it the first time.. or 30th xD



#25 Wiivja

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Posted 23 April 2015 - 16:18

1. Can't do ICC, can do ASV
2. I know what I'm getting with ASV set.

Those who can and have been running ICC, for the most part, already had ASV set. For those of us that did not have it before the update, we can't find a group willing to bring us with them on a successful ICC run, and together without enough ASV gear, we cannot complete on our own.

I did ICC with two mages who didnt ahve fabled, bring the right setup of classes and its not that hard. A sin helps alot. There are many ways of doing it. But if all dps focus on boss all the time shouldnt ahve problem with no fabled dps:)



#26 Wiivja

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Posted 23 April 2015 - 16:26

Didn't a few people in thread say it's possible to do icc with no fabled at all?

 

And you get 2/4 relics every run which is 8 min max so it's pretty quick for relics.. And you don't get wiped often if your tank/heal know what they are doing, which is the biggest problem as i've seen so many quit because they couldn't do it the first time.. or 30th xD

Its just to keep trying till you get it. My favorite team to bring is sin, ranger and mage. 



#27 Anameisaname

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Posted 23 April 2015 - 16:34

Easy method was explained in how to thread by meru i think, or was it sleila xD 

 

Just get tank heal ranger mage warrior. When adds start spawning warrior takes them near heal and dps, tank spamming taunt, heal spamming heals that aggro adds (so warrior takes them over).

 

If tank loses agro once, it's probably over, same if healer makes a mistake..



#28 Wiivja

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Posted 23 April 2015 - 18:47

Easy method was explained in how to thread by meru i think, or was it sleila xD 

 

Just get tank heal ranger mage warrior. When adds start spawning warrior takes them near heal and dps, tank spamming taunt, heal spamming heals that aggro adds (so warrior takes them over).

 

If tank loses agro once, it's probably over, same if healer makes a mistake..

For that method when i tried that Treya enraged alot. So Ill stick with circle



#29 Anameisaname

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Posted 23 April 2015 - 18:55

That means dps weren't doing good, did they basic attack a lot or have bad talents?



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Posted 24 April 2015 - 15:03

Thanks for your feedback on this, this is something we'll certainly look at for the next update  :)


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#31 Anameisaname

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Posted 24 April 2015 - 15:16

Thanks for your feedback on this, this is something we'll certainly look at for the next update  :)

 

I like when devs deliver, good job!



#32 Undjuvion

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Posted 26 April 2015 - 17:12

when i first saw the speed at which absolutes were churning out at ICC i was horrified, i expected maybe at 50 content the last chest in a dungeon would probably have an absolute, like many have said its been open about a month and some have been lucky enough to be getting runs, way too late to nerf as mega damage has been done like crazy crazy crazy and in honesty i can see how those just getting into there or soon will be would feel ripped off, now like i see earlier in the thread new benchmarks will be needed way sooner so people can still feel like they are progressing and leveling as a roleplay game is, in terms of above perfect, i cringe at the ugliness, though we have huge caps now or last i saw, i picture keanu reaves right now ... what do you do, what do you do :P



#33 Fizban

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Posted 26 April 2015 - 18:36

Thanks for your feedback on this, this is something we'll certainly look at for the next update  :)

If you're gonna nerf ICC, take away the rewards that players who mass farmed it received ;)


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#34 Anameisaname

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Posted 26 April 2015 - 19:04

In the update they said they will adjust the rewards for other dungeons, i'm quoting:

 

"and we'll be looking at some of the end-game activities that are under-performing (in terms of not giving worthwhile loot) and plan to make some changes to improve this. "

 

I don't see why people who legit did dungeon and had good skill/time to farm should be hurt just because someone couldn't do it and is mad at them.. 

 

It's just pure jealousy..

 

And how do you even plan to remove rewards? If i got some abs gems and sold some of them, then bought cosmetics and traded them for coal which i used to level my weaponsmithing.. Good luck taking it away :P



#35 Undjuvion

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Posted 26 April 2015 - 19:18

In the update they said they will adjust the rewards for other dungeons, i'm quoting:

 

"and we'll be looking at some of the end-game activities that are under-performing (in terms of not giving worthwhile loot) and plan to make some changes to improve this. "

 

I don't see why people who legit did dungeon and had good skill/time to farm should be hurt just because someone couldn't do it and is mad at them.. 

 

It's just pure jealousy..

 

And how do you even plan to remove rewards? If i got some abs gems and sold some of them, then bought cosmetics and traded them for coal which i used to level my weaponsmithing.. Good luck taking it away :P

 

itd take months or longer to track it all down if its even realistically as easy as i picture(which im 100% sure they wont do), damage is done and its not jealousy, its not even the word u mean which is 'envy' ... it is those others not being given the chances others were, quite simply cos it wasnt adjusted straight away, it was left ages while some of us cashed in :)



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Posted 26 April 2015 - 20:45

I don't think it will be adjusted, the other dungeons will have a boost in drops so hopefully we won't be repeating icc for 30 times a day. We will see what they do.



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Posted 26 April 2015 - 21:04

In the update they said they will adjust the rewards for other dungeons, i'm quoting:

 

"and we'll be looking at some of the end-game activities that are under-performing (in terms of not giving worthwhile loot) and plan to make some changes to improve this. "

 

I don't see why people who legit did dungeon and had good skill/time to farm should be hurt just because someone couldn't do it and is mad at them.. 

 

It's just pure jealousy..

 

And how do you even plan to remove rewards? If i got some abs gems and sold some of them, then bought cosmetics and traded them for coal which i used to level my weaponsmithing.. Good luck taking it away :P

I'm not Jealous of anybody as a matter of fact, check the smiley and you can see it was said tongue in cheek, what i will stick by though, is the fact that some players farm to their hearts content, then when they get what they want, they decide to call for a nerf just to stop other players getting good stuff, this happened when BT/RG storymode was introduced as did ToC, players were mass farming, then after a month or so, started asking for them to be nerfed, why not ask for that after the first run? 


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#38 Anameisaname

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Posted 26 April 2015 - 21:19

Oi that's just pure evil xD



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Posted 26 April 2015 - 22:34

I'm not Jealous of anybody as a matter of fact, check the smiley and you can see it was said tongue in cheek, what i will stick by though, is the fact that some players farm to their hearts content, then when they get what they want, they decide to call for a nerf just to stop other players getting good stuff, this happened when BT/RG storymode was introduced as did ToC, players were mass farming, then after a month or so, started asking for them to be nerfed, why not ask for that after the first run? 

Not what I was intending by this thread at all, but I know lots of you have jumped on that bandwagon. As I have said many times, it was brought up before just not in its own post (that I am aware of).

 

Anyway, over discussing ICC now. Thanks cows for listening hopefully we can improve loots in the other EoC playing areas to make them more worthwhile.


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