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#1 maf22

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Posted 01 June 2015 - 01:41

 Allegiance Tokens are gained by donating and logging in.  If you are someone who doesnt donate at all  or very often you probably dont have a lot of tokens.  I think they should also be given for being active in the game not just logging on but actually interacting.

 

My idea would to give tokens for interacting in the game..  So you would have goals basically getting X tokens for killing Y# of SEs  and X tokens if you kill Y# of titans or if you gain X # of levels in the month or X tokens for completing # of quests or completing a # of bountys. This would be on a monthly basis..  This gives players something to do and maybe get players to try parts of the game the normally wouldnt.

 

Also new items might need to be added to the rewards page maybe something for composing or a potion to help craft items perfect..  

Not sure if this was ever discussed before

thanks



#2 Pardoux

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Posted 01 June 2015 - 02:21

 Allegiance Tokens are gained by donating and logging in.  If you are someone who doesnt donate at all  or very often you probably dont have a lot of tokens.  I think they should also be given for being active in the game not just logging on but actually interacting.

 

My idea would to give tokens for interacting in the game..  So you would have goals basically getting X tokens for killing Y# of SEs  and X tokens if you kill Y# of titans or if you gain X # of levels in the month or X tokens for completing # of quests or completing a # of bountys. This would be on a monthly basis..  This gives players something to do and maybe get players to try parts of the game the normally wouldnt.

 

Also new items might need to be added to the rewards page maybe something for composing or a potion to help craft items perfect..  

Not sure if this was ever discussed before

thanks

 

Or, you could just be grateful for getting any without donating ? ;)


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#3 yghorbeviahn

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Posted 01 June 2015 - 02:41

Most of the games with that 'loyalty' system reward players for logging, not everyday, but logging 5 days in a row, or something like that.

I believe FS can do better that way, but don't know what the rewards could be.

1st day: 2 Allegiance Token.
2nd day: 3 Allegiance Tokens.
3rd day: 5 Allegiance Tokens.
4th day: 5 Allegiance Tokens.
5th day: 10 Allegiance Tokens.

That way we will receive the same 25 Tokens/5days, but will make people log in more often raising online number.



#4 RebornJedi

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Posted 01 June 2015 - 02:56

Or, you could just be grateful for getting any without donating ? ;)


Or you could just be thoughtful with ways that could make this game more enjoyable.. Settling with what is doesn't make a game grow.. It makes it rot.

 


#5 RebornJedi

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Posted 01 June 2015 - 03:00

Loyalty shouldn't be mainly bought.. It should be earned..

Leveling up should be a main way to earn loyalty points.. Quest.. Among other ideas you have brought up..

A new daily quest feature could include some of those ideas to have players logging in daily to spend stamina/time while waiting to level or just waiting for stamina to build

Edited by RebornJedi, 01 June 2015 - 03:06.

 


#6 RebornJedi

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Posted 01 June 2015 - 03:04

Maybe you should bump an old thread of yours, Pardoux, because its basically the same idea?

https://forums.hunte...ts-of-the-game/

 


#7 maf22

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Posted 01 June 2015 - 03:09

Exactly the tokens are a bonus.  Getting players to log in and PLAY the game doing different things is the main purpose.



#8 Pardoux

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Posted 01 June 2015 - 03:50

Or you could just be thoughtful with ways that could make this game more enjoyable.. Settling with what is doesn't make a game grow.. It makes it rot.

 

There are SO many "give me more" posts lately - and when the cows DO make something better, it pacifies people for a while and then that increased "offer" also becomes not so attractive and thus the cycle repeats. Remember when the first epic chests came out with donations ? - weren't they something like AL / LIB / CONS 250 ? (I'm willing to be corrected there) - but now, a lot of players turn their noses up at anything less than Level 500 pots, and only then in specific combinations.

 

I'm all in favour of the game growing and flourishing, but that isn't just down to the cows giving more and more away. As it stands at the moment, giving out more allegiance tokens, per se, isn't really an issue, because most of what you can "buy" with them is, not to put too fine a point on it, crap.

 

BUT, if allegiance were reworked (as has been asked for many times) - then how does it work ? - if more tokens are awarded daily, then I suspect the prices of items in there would be based upon that extra influx, so, in effect, nothing has changed ..

 

 

Maybe you should bump an old thread of yours, Pardoux, because its basically the same idea?

https://forums.hunte...ts-of-the-game/

 

Not quite - my idea was to reward specific activity with specific tokens that could be used in alternate specific aspects of the game. But, I take your point that there are similarities.


Homer : Marge, don't discourage the boy. Weaseling out of things is important to learn. It's what separates us from the animals .. except the weasel.

 

Eddie Izzard : The National Rifle Association say that guns don't kill people, people do. But I think the gun helps, you know ? I think it helps. I think just standing there going "BANG" - that's not going to kill too many people, is it ?

 

I don't mean to sound pessimistic, but it seems that everything I eat lately turns to poo ...


#9 RebornJedi

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Posted 01 June 2015 - 04:00

This game is ever evolving and needs to have such suggestions that ask for more to evolve more.. Without such this game will become stagnant.. With new games coming out and old games updating, to keep a growing population it needs to compete.. If players don't push then what pushes the cows?

And yes, a lot of this games growth comes down to the cows giving more and more.. Once they fully realize this, the better off this game's future is

Edited by RebornJedi, 01 June 2015 - 04:01.

 


#10 Pardoux

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Posted 01 June 2015 - 04:28

And yes, a lot of this games growth comes down to the cows giving more and more.. Once they fully realize this, the better off this game's future is

 

Not at the expense of their income it's not - no income from players, no game.

 

I know they get some from advertisers, but I'd go out on a limb and say that's small potatoes compared to the donations - but, of course, only they know those figures.


Homer : Marge, don't discourage the boy. Weaseling out of things is important to learn. It's what separates us from the animals .. except the weasel.

 

Eddie Izzard : The National Rifle Association say that guns don't kill people, people do. But I think the gun helps, you know ? I think it helps. I think just standing there going "BANG" - that's not going to kill too many people, is it ?

 

I don't mean to sound pessimistic, but it seems that everything I eat lately turns to poo ...


#11 duktayp

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Posted 01 June 2015 - 04:31

when i go to youtube now;

 

the videos i watch here to earn shards, and earn money for the cows, show up as my favorites  :unsure:



#12 RebornJedi

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Posted 01 June 2015 - 04:42

Because players donate just for these allegiance tokens?.. Silly reasons to debate with.. Old and pointless during these times.. If the cows wanted to make more money, then there are easy ways to do so..

What do the cows lose with rewarding players more allegiance tokens for killing a certain amount of evil creatures in the realms within a certain time period.. Or given after leveling a certain amount.. Or completing a number of quests.. With the small number of rewards given for these tokens, what downfall or harm could come from this? And how hard for a master coder to deliver these rewards in a simple system could it really be?

Edited by RebornJedi, 01 June 2015 - 04:44.

 


#13 duktayp

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Posted 01 June 2015 - 04:53

With the small number of rewards given for these tokens

 

so why the request for more



#14 RebornJedi

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Posted 01 June 2015 - 05:03

Because they are still rewards that benefit enjoyment in the game

And this suggestion encourages activity

Edited by RebornJedi, 01 June 2015 - 05:04.

 


#15 duktayp

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Posted 01 June 2015 - 05:11

encourages activity

 

or encourages more begging

 

a bum on the street doesn't see the problem with asking for spare change

 

but if successful, it encourages more bums to beg (as seen in forum more often these days)



#16 RebornJedi

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Posted 01 June 2015 - 05:16

We aren't bums.. We are players.. Gamers.. Don't try to compare those who suggest or fight for suggestions as beggars..

Its not like the cows flip us some free coins every time or often enough..

If you want to take that road, then the cows are still flipping us pennies when other developers are gladly giving us paper bills..

 


#17 duktayp

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Posted 01 June 2015 - 05:32

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#18 RebornJedi

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Posted 01 June 2015 - 05:37

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#19 cyrus7

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Posted 01 June 2015 - 08:19

when i go to youtube now;

 

the videos i watch here to earn shards, and earn money for the cows, show up as my favorites  :unsure:

Ha. :P

What's really annoying is seeing the exact same ads on my television via cable programming, and despite yelling "Where's my shards?!" getting nothing.  :lol: I'm paying for the cable service, so in that instance, I'm paying to watch the ad.  :rolleyes:



#20 bigchaos

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Posted 01 June 2015 - 23:19

I think that your idea is good idea since we have global events if my memory is correct , we have global doublers that are used. I also think that we could add perhaps some other things in the area.  I know we have shard and fsp, and gold to earn but  I do not see the harm in improving Allegiance Tokens.  It is not a priority but it would make things interesting and perhaps help out global event if there is another option to buy global potion by earning tokens more. ;)  


Edited by bigchaos, 01 June 2015 - 23:21.



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