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[BigGrim]

As you are aware, we are working on the PvP Ladder at the moment. Please be patient.

[Egami]

as usual arena bump to the bottom of the barrel, and out of sight, i keep seeing pvp this, pvp that..pvp threads everywhere..been like that for months and months..others parts of the game need attention also

 

I don't disagree with you. However, as an FS Player, I'd point out that six to seven years of neglect on the PVP game aspect will probably take some time to sort out though. 

 

Meanwhile, I'll point out that we have an had within the last week a content update, a GE dedicated to composing and a "guide system" implemented to help players. 

 

So yeah... I don't agree that it's all "PvP". 

Edited by Egami, 10 September 2015 - 01:39.

[moonfrost]

As you are aware, we are working on the PvP Ladder at the moment. Please be patient.

One aspect that should be looked at, no matter how off topic this is, is the gain of dominance ticks to the players on each ladder that all have the same pvp total and qualify to be in first place. The simple fact that some ladders are all one guild should not be a realm of punishment in us not getting dominance ticks since clearly, our being alone on these ladders show by definition dominance. 11 players on the 2k ladder as of today, all evil dead, so why shouldn't we all get dominance ticks per hour as a result of that. It used to be that way before seasons kicked off and this and a few other aspects of the game seem not to have been changed back accordingly. Bring back our hourly dominance ticks please.

 

Lets also consider that inbetween season 1 and 2 of the pvp seasons, everyone who was crystal or was titan league after season 2 while we were waiting on prizes to be released all got hourly ticks. And these were during a time that nobody was able to hit other players. Of course nobody really complained about that I noticed.

 

Edit:If need be, poll it

Edited by moonfrost, 11 September 2015 - 13:57.

[Leos3000]

One aspect that should be looked at, no matter how off topic this is, is the gain of dominance ticks to the players on each ladder that all have the same pvp total and qualify to be in first place. The simple fact that some ladders are all one guild should not be a realm of punishment in us not getting dominance ticks since clearly, our being alone on these ladders show by definition dominance. 11 players on the 2k ladder as of today, all evil dead, so why shouldn't we all get dominance ticks per hour as a result of that. It used to be that way before seasons kicked off and this and a few other aspects of the game seem not to have been changed back accordingly. Bring back our hourly dominance ticks please.
 
Lets also consider that inbetween season 1 and 2 of the pvp seasons, everyone who was crystal or was titan league after season 2 while we were waiting on prizes to be released all got hourly ticks. And these were during a time that nobody was able to hit other players. Of course nobody really complained about that I noticed.
 
Edit:If need be, poll it

Actually it was like that before seasons, where if no one hit or could hit no dominance ticks were given.

Cows should also make it to where if you never make an attack you should not get any tokens either... (though I bet you want your whole ladder to get 5..)

[Olef]

biggrim, hoofmaster

 

what happened to the arena poll result?

[Olef]

can I please know if we are having the 25% or 50% guild arena rule?

[Hoofmaster]

biggrim, hoofmaster

 

what happened to the arena poll result?

 

 

can I please know if we are having the 25% or 50% guild arena rule?

 

The in-game poll result was:

 

Yes - 548 votes - 32%

No - 577 votes - 34%

Don't Mind - 593 votes - 34%

 

Quite a split opinion on it. In my opinion I don't think it would be good to increase the limit from 25% so we're going to leave it as it is for now.

 

We are however going to take a look at how the arenas are spawned to see if we can improve the availability of the arenas across the level ranges and we could look at maybe adding an indicator to show if the maximum members from your guild have already joined an arena in the list so you know which you can / cannot join.

[Olef]

 

The in-game poll result was:

 

Yes - 548 votes - 32%

No - 577 votes - 34%

Don't Mind - 593 votes - 34%

 

Quite a split opinion on it. In my opinion I don't think it would be good to increase the limit from 25% so we're going to leave it as it is for now.

 

We are however going to take a look at how the arenas are spawned to see if we can improve the availability of the arenas across the level ranges and we could look at maybe adding an indicator to show if the maximum members from your guild have already joined an arena in the list so you know which you can / cannot join.

 

thanks, the indicator to show if the maximum members from your guild have already joined an arena is a good idea

[EpicPiety]

That's a load of bull hoof... That's all i'm going to say. Unless you get rid of that "don't mind" option these polls are rigged and forever will be. 

Edited by EpicPiety, 12 September 2015 - 22:46.

[Hoofmaster]

That's a load of bull hoof... Last time you grouped the "don't mind" together with the *i am not satisfied*... Get rid of that option and re-poll...

 

No need to re-poll it. The in-game polls are generally used to give us a gauge of what players think about something.

 

Irrespective of the poll, I feel it's better for the game that we keep it to 25%.

[EpicPiety]

No need to re-poll it. The in-game polls are generally used give us a gauge of what players think about something.

 

Irrespective of the poll, I feel it's better for the game that we keep it to 25%.

Just a few weeks ago you said yourself it was going to change to 50% as a matter of fact. You said yourself you'd get zorg to do it in the next update. Seems as if you totally changed your mind out of the blue for no reason. What influenced you into changing your mind? Your all over the place lately hoof  ... Can say the same with how adamant you were on not reverting the pvp system back... This inconsistency is leaving me very worried for the state of the game. This is not the hoof i used to know and respect.

Edited by EpicPiety, 12 September 2015 - 22:54.

[EpicPiety]

I had a think about it

Can you please explain your reasoning... i'm fairly interested with all due respect we deserve that at least. The vote was very split.

Edited by EpicPiety, 12 September 2015 - 22:56.

[Hoofmaster]

Just a few weeks ago you said yourself it was going to change to 50% as a matter of fact. You said yourself you'd get zorg to do it in the next update. Seems as if you totally changed your mind out of the blue for no reason. What influenced you into changing your mind? Your all over the place lately hoof  ... Can say the same with how adamant you were on not reverting the pvp system back... This inconsistency is leaving me very worried for the state of the game. This is not the hoof i used to know and respect.

 

I had a think about it and decided it would be best to leave it as is. If I felt it would have been better to change it to 50% then I would have done so.

[Calista]

I don't think Hoof is all over the place. I think he's reading the posts, around all the drama "quit liking what our enemies say' nonsense that keeps going on, talking it over with the team and making changes as they see fit.  There are several issues I can't wait to basically say "I told you so,' about, as a matter a fact. So I'm not liking all the changes either.  But the fact their listening, making changes and adjustments, and moving forward with ideas all over the game is good over all. We're not always going to get our way. But posts made with less emotion and more facts seem to be taken more seriously. Isn't that what the forum is for, to discuss the game and direction we'd like to see it go in.

[EpicPiety]

I had a think about it and decided it would be best to leave it as is. If I felt it would have been better to change it to 50% then I would have done so.

Well that's just my opinion as of late. Many others are on the same page but that's besides the fact. I do disagree with your decision but there is no point in fighting it as its final at this point. I am just interested in your reasoning.

Edited by EpicPiety, 12 September 2015 - 23:01.

[Hoofmaster]

Well that's just my opinion as of late. Many others are on the same page but that's besides the fact. I do disagree with your decision and there is no point in fighting it. I am just interested in your reasoning.

 

My reasoning is the same as when we implemented the limit in the first place - to prevent players from a single guild all joining the same arena. Why 25% instead of 50%? Why not - I think it's about the right number and prevents a single arena game being dominated by the same guild.

[EpicPiety]

My reasoning is the same as when we implemented the limit in the first place - to prevent players from a single guild all joining the same arena. Why 25% instead of 50%? Why not - I think it's about the right number and prevents a single arena game being dominated by the same guild.

Well that's where our opinions differ then because i stand firm on the fact that the arena is a solo aspect. But i thank you for at-least explaining.

[Hoofmaster]

Well that's where our opinions differ then because i stand firm on the fact that the arena is a solo aspect. But i thank you for at-least explaining.

 

We can agree to disagree

[EpicPiety]

We can agree to disagree

I'll give you that atleast  ...If you can make the arena move fast enough the 25% rule won't matter...I put you up to the challenge . If the arena stays this active or worst case scenario gets less active the same problem will arise. The problem i have with the 25% rule is when its cooped with inactivity. That rule in the arena simply doesn't mix with a slow moving arena. Back in the day it's had its merit i'll give you that but times have changed . The arena has been slightly more active as of late but not active enough.

Edited by EpicPiety, 12 September 2015 - 23:17.

[Olef]

epicpiety, you are acting like a child and throwing a tantrum because you did not get what you wanted

you wanted the 25% rule to change to 50%

hoofmaster decided to poll it and ask the community

 

I didn't realise anyone was against us changing it to be honest. We could put an in-game poll on it if others also would prefer it stayed at 25%?

you agreed

 

Poll it, i'm confident it will pass. It's only really a few people "not" happy with it. Although it won't effect them AT ALL...other then liven up the arena and speed it up. Really no need for a poll like this anyway...Whose it negatively effecting?

and were confident it will pass (beats me how you could be confident predicting something unknown)

 

when the poll results came out, minority wanted to change the rule, you did not like the results

 

That's a load of bull hoof... That's all i'm going to say. Unless you get rid of that "don't mind" option these polls are rigged and forever will be. 

disrespecting hoofmaster and accusing him of rigging is unacceptable behaviour

in other games players got terminated for this unacceptable behaviour

 

hoofmaster listened to you, he polled it, you agreed but you did not like the result of the community vote

hoofmaster is working on the weekend, it is past midnight here in the UK and he is trying his best for the game, show some respect and gratitude