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[Mister Doom]

The only AS potion is Life Blood Cave Potion (Arterial Strike 300). A jump of 700 levels seems...bloomin' huge!

 

Sure the jump in levels may seem large, and it is. It is also the only way I can think of to make multi hitting an actual viable option, versus the current monotony of designing a simple maximum damage setup, to try and 1-hit everything.

 

With this potion in circulation, the fundamental philosophy behind hunting setup design can/will be altered.

 

The same cannot really be said about just throwing out another uber powerful stat enhancing potion.

 

(Although it would be a high level potion, it SHOULD NOT be made prohibitively expensive. We want everyone to try their hand at designing a setup that can survive a return hit)

[Undjuvion]

Sure the jump in levels may seem large, and it is. It is also the only way I can think of to make multi hitting an actual viable option, versus the current monotony of designing a simple maximum damage setup, to try and 1-hit everything.

 

With this potion in circulation, the fundamental philosophy behind hunting setup design can/will be altered.

 

The same cannot really be said about just throwing out another uber powerful stat enhancing potion.

 

(Although it would be a high level potion, it SHOULD NOT be made prohibitively expensive. We want everyone to try their hand at designing a setup that can survive a return hit)

 

i think mr doom may have the goods, keep in mind this does not activate when conserve does SO... it creates more choices, do u create a multi hit setup with AS  or use a 1 hit setup with conserve, be stupid to use both, would it not, though the later is prob a waste depending on token cost

 

 

edit: wow, no overkill either, reckoning ftw!

Edited by Undjuvion, 05 April 2016 - 09:25.

[Filletminion]

i think mr doom may have the goods, keep in mind this does not activate when conserve does SO... it creates more choices, do u create a multi hit setup with AS  or use a 1 hit setup with conserve, be stupid to use both, would it not, though the later is prob a waste depending on token cost

Would certainly bring some imagination and setup design skills back into levelling. The major issue would be for guide followers and buff junkies who load everything this would throw how they play out and require them to understand buffs in more detail.

[Mister Doom]

Understanding buffs in more detail was one of the main goals I had in mind to be honest.

 

Though I'm not and never likely will be a pvp player, intimate knowledge of how the buffs in this game function would likely make pvp seem a lot less intimidating too.

Edited by Mister Doom, 05 April 2016 - 09:52.

[BigGrim]

if u wanted feedback on token price :-)

 

Feedback on costs is welcome, yes.

 

(Although it would be a high level potion, it SHOULD NOT be made prohibitively expensive. We want everyone to try their hand at designing a setup that can survive a return hit)

 

What kinda price are you thinking?

[Mister Doom]

Honestly?

 

I'm not sure it should really be an arena potion, I know this thread is about arena potions but I can't help but be jaded about the fact many people already have enormous stockpiles of arena tokens, so any discussion about token prices is ultimately redundant. If some people wanted they could crash markets, almost regardless of prices.

 

For the AS1k I'd really like to see it be in the special section of the AH. Perhaps give it a 100k starting price?

(OF course this would REALLY make the other AS potion completely redundant, but in this case I think that'd be acceptable, change that potion into something else.)

 

If it absolutely HAS to be an arena potion? Then your asking the wrong person, 'cheap' is about the only answer I could give.

Edited by Mister Doom, 05 April 2016 - 14:00.

[Undjuvion]

if we really wanted to be awesome about this, go off topic and make it non arena, id make it a loyalty pot, get some love for loyalty, i would make it around 125 loyalty tokens so it takes a few weeks logging in and yet does not completely become a rich mans toy like the LF was, it does sink loyalty somewhat even almost nicely at around that price, what u think mr doom, then doesnt kill gold price on scavenging one also?

 

 

edit: meh, maybe 75 loyalty tokens would be fairer, i still think too big sometimes i think

Edited by Undjuvion, 05 April 2016 - 15:19.

[Mister Doom]

Sure, 75 loyalty tokens actually seems like a  pretty nice sum.

 

That will also have the effect of making non-donating lower stam players alternate between 1-hitting hunting runs and AS hunting runs. (As and when they have the AT's to go for the more efficient AS route)

[Undjuvion]

i like that, some may learn the game better, when they are fresher on the scene, ones that do like to try things

[EpicPiety]

Agree about 75 loyalty... This potion will be fun! Don't have to use it if you don't want either. Breaks that whole argument about making the game more challenging... You can take the easier route with less benefit or the more challenging route with slightly more benefit .

Edited by EpicPiety, 05 April 2016 - 15:41.

[yodamus]

almost liked what u posted though wasnt sure about the first line in second paragraph "still need to address arena for amount to join" other than that i agree

if you were a level 150 player in the game...what use would arena be...very very very little to join..maybe 1-3 a day if you are lucky..then maybe only 1 of them being tokens..then it takes 24 hrs to fill..so you get 1 chance each day to possibly earn tokens..max of 3 chances a day..on a normal day...they are new to arena so winning just 1 round may prove hard to do..will take them a long long time to earn 100 tokens to get somethin good...if you cant see that there is a lack of chances for lower level newer players to earn tokens in arena...you are just in denial...plain and simple....get off your high horse and think like a new player...not a eoc player...!!!!   more , many more tourneys needed in arena for lower levels...

 

rememeber - before tokens...75 tourneys for 1200 levels..now we have 60 tourneys for near 3000 levels...do you know math ???????????????- massive lack of opportunity for players

[Undjuvion]

if you were a level 150 player in the game...what use would arena be...very very very little to join..maybe 1-3 a day if you are lucky..then maybe only 1 of them being tokens..then it takes 24 hrs to fill..so you get 1 chance each day to possibly earn tokens..max of 3 chances a day..on a normal day...they are new to arena so winning just 1 round may prove hard to do..will take them a long long time to earn 100 tokens to get somethin good...if you cant see that there is a lack of chances for lower level newer players to earn tokens in arena...you are just in denial...plain and simple....get off your high horse and think like a new player...not a eoc player...!!!!   more , many more tourneys needed in arena for lower levels...

 

rememeber - before tokens...75 tourneys for 1200 levels..now we have 60 tourneys for near 3000 levels...do you know math ???????????????- massive lack of opportunity for players

 

dude, stop trolling, ive been advocating what u are saying long before u came along thinking u are some sort of hotshot, simply do not know how some people interpret what they read....

 

 

edit: u simply werent clear or are repeating is what i meant and u obviously dont bother to remember other times when ive said what u have said, agreed with you or had u agree with me on this same thing, please...

Edited by Undjuvion, 05 April 2016 - 16:57.

[BigGrim]

Let's not go flaming please guys.

[ALEX1977]

Honestly?

 

I'm not sure it should really be an arena potion, I know this thread is about arena potions but I can't help but be jaded about the fact many people already have enormous stockpiles of arena tokens, so any discussion about token prices is ultimately redundant. If some people wanted they could crash markets, almost regardless of prices.

 

For the AS1k I'd really like to see it be in the special section of the AH. Perhaps give it a 100k starting price?

(OF course this would REALLY make the other AS potion completely redundant, but in this case I think that'd be acceptable, change that potion into something else.)

 

If it absolutely HAS to be an arena potion? Then your asking the wrong person, 'cheap' is about the only answer I could give.

 

+ 1000 for the Arterial Strike potion .... I would like too see it in the special section of the AH too !

[yodamus]

dude, stop trolling, ive been advocating what u are saying long before u came along thinking u are some sort of hotshot, simply do not know how some people interpret what they read....

 

 

edit: u simply werent clear or are repeating is what i meant and u obviously dont bother to remember other times when ive said what u have said, agreed with you or had u agree with me on this same thing, please...

ok..sorry dude..reading it sounded like you did not understand my point about the potions and what gets added to arena are not the issue that needs to be addressed..amount of opportunity needs to be addressed or all these new potion ideas means zippo to anyone trying to start arena and is keeping arena slow as a turtle..arena needs to speed up..adding potions is NOT the answer..they are needed , but more needs to be done with arena opportunity- SO WE CAN GET MORE PLAYERS INVOLVED. - why join arena to play 1-3 times every 24-48 hrs to try to win something, and never get to actually see the battles play out..i cant remember the last time i actually got to see a tourney start live..

 

i had 650 wins in my first 2 years doing arena...i have 113 in last 3 years, since tokens came about..and lack of opportunity for lower level players is the main reason why...i join everything i can join..but so little to join , so slow to start....bg needs to not only add potions..but add tourneys...that is all i ask

[Undjuvion]

ok..sorry dude..reading it sounded like you did not understand my point about the potions and what gets added to arena are not the issue that needs to be addressed..amount of opportunity needs to be addressed or all these new potion ideas means zippo to anyone trying to start arena and is keeping arena slow as a turtle..arena needs to speed up..adding potions is NOT the answer..they are needed , but more needs to be done with arena opportunity- SO WE CAN GET MORE PLAYERS INVOLVED. - why join arena to play 1-3 times every 24-48 hrs to try to win something, and never get to actually see the battles play out..i cant remember the last time i actually got to see a tourney start live..

 

i had 650 wins in my first 2 years doing arena...i have 113 in last 3 years, since tokens came about..and lack of opportunity for lower level players is the main reason why...i join everything i can join..but so little to join , so slow to start....bg needs to not only add potions..but add tourneys...that is all i ask

 

i said it in a thread a week or three back, can lead a horse to water but u cant make it drink.

[BigGrim]

To be continued! 

 

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