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[rowbeth]

Did you feel a sense of accomplishment when you reached level 2500? Sure you did, you worked hard to get there and nobody can take that away from you.

 

 

+1 Nicely said!

 

Nicely said ... um ... except that ... well ... actually ... someone can take that accomplishment (and with it, the sense of accomplishment) away from me. It's called PVP.

 

And there, in a nutshell, is the problem: your sense of accomplishment comes from taking my sense of accomplishment away, and then the feelings that engenders in me leave you feeling that you can't enjoy your sense of accomplishment. At least there is a certain fairness in that state of affairs, even if it is not especially good for the health of the game.

 

[PS  I can now avoid this cycle by putting lots of resources into PVP protection, but it took more than 6 years to get to the point where I could afford that, so that is not a panacea for this cycle of stolen sense-of-achievement.]

Edited by rowbeth, 07 June 2015 - 06:38.

[Calista]

Oh I'm sorry. Did they lie to you when you signed up for Fallen Sword and tell you there was no PvP? Wait.... they gave us a quest in the beginning that required rating to progress. Do ya think that might have been their way of preparing you for what you faced in this game? Naaaaaw, that would make too much sense......

Welcome to Fallen Sword. PvP is and always will be a part of this game. If you choose not to take part, you have several options to protect yourself. But make no mistake, it is YOU making a choice not to participate in a part of the game. Totally your right, but no one elses responsibility. Otherwise, you can play the game the same as everyone else which means putting up with parts of it you'd rather not deal with. Cheers!

Edited by Calista, 07 June 2015 - 11:17.

[yotwehc]

Oh I'm sorry. Did they lie to you when you signed up for Fallen Sword and tell you there was no PvP? Wait.... they gave us a quest in the beginning that required rating to progress. Do ya think that might have been their way of preparing you for what you faced in this game? Naaaaaw, that would make too much sense......

Where is this quest? Maybe it was there for older players but I don't see it for newer players so are you implying HCS is "lying" to newer players? Also, where in the sign up process does it say this is a pvp game? This games seems to have much more dimensions to it the just pvp. Seems you can thrive without it unless your a lower level player.

[Calista]

Since the player I was responding too has played longer then me, I'm sure he saw the quest too. But for the sake of nonsense argument I have no issue looking that info up for you once I'm home and on a computer. Maybe it was all my imagination, same as the cows repeatedly saying this is a PvP game. I'm so glad we're gonna use that common sense thing in our arguments. Oh wait......

[yotwehc]

Since the player I was responding too has played longer then me, I'm sure he saw the quest too. But for the sake of nonsense argument I have no issue looking that info up for you once I'm home and on a computer. Maybe it was all my imagination, same as the cows repeatedly saying this is a PvP game. I'm so glad we're gonna use that common sense thing in our arguments. Oh wait......

I'll save you time:

"Fallen Sword is a massively multiplayer role playing game set in the exciting and evolving world of Erildath. Players enter the world and explore, adventure across a vast number of realms with thousands of other players.

Fallen Sword is a great game to play on your own or with friends. It has an old school MUD (Multi-User Dungeon) feel to it, with a great combat system. Slice your way through the many dungeons and group with your friends to defeat Legendary creatures.

Game Features:

• Over a thousand levels worth of content, realms and creatures.
• State of the art HTML5 canvas game play.
• A vast array of skills and abilities for your character.
• Thousands of items and quests to collect.
• Free to play with no downloads.
• Trading and auction systems.
• Variety of exciting community events.
• Regular updates and improvements.
• An active and dynamic community of thousands of other players.

"

I tend to agree with the first line... this is an MMORPG. Where does it say this is a pvp game? It's an aspect... they didn't even bother making it a bullet point despite the fact that it's so important.. odd huh?

Edited by yotwehc, 07 June 2015 - 20:02.

[Calista]

Lmao. They don't mention titans there either, and I find the practice moronic but I don't belittle or trash talk those who enjoy that aspect of the game. But since it isnt listed it must not be real. Thanks god, those annoy me. They mention only 1000 levels of content but pretty sure there is lots more. But since it isn't listed in that small blurb it must not be true! Smh

[yghorbeviahn]

We are going way too far from the original subject

PvP is a part of the game, we all know it, after all there is an 'Attack Player' page, some like it, some don't, no point of arguing who is right or wrong, because none are, we do like PvP, respect that and think big for the game, not on your vision.

100 gold per level on BB, that's it.

Should that be applied? Should that rule stay?

If yes, make the adjustment for lvl2.000+ players.

If not, make the adjustment for lvl2.000- players, make it equal and fair.


That's all.

[yotwehc]

Lmao. They don't mention titans there either, and I find the practice moronic but I don't belittle or trash talk those who enjoy that aspect of the game. But since it isnt listed it must not be real. Thanks god, those buggers annoy me. They mention only 1000 levels of content but pretty sure there is lots more. But since it isn't listed in that small blurb it must not be true! Smh

I'm not the one going around saying this is a pvp game. I think this game is much more. If pvp is such an important aspect, you would think it would be on the intro screen, no? Do I go around calling this a titan hunting game? Nope. I'm not saying pvp isn't an aspect. It is. But it's not the main aspect. Sorry. i feel bad for you. I would be pretty upset if I am led to believe my favorite aspect of the game is the most important yet... You know...
And who's belittling and trash talking? In only pointing out reality.

Edited by yotwehc, 07 June 2015 - 21:04.

[yotwehc]

We are going way too far from the original subject

PvP is a part of the game, we all know it, after all there is an 'Attack Player' page, some like it, some don't, no point of arguing who is right or wrong, because none are, we do like PvP, respect that and think big for the game, not on your vision.

100 gold per level on BB, that's it.

Should that be applied? Should that rule stay?

If yes, make the adjustment for lvl2.000+ players.

If not, make the adjustment for lvl2.000- players, make it equal and fair.


That's all.

Sorry yghor. You are right in that pvp is an aspect. No one can argue that. And I still disagree with you in that your suggestion is unfair. Good luck

[Pardoux]

100 gold per level on BB, that's it.

Should that be applied? Should that rule stay?

If yes, make the adjustment for lvl2.000+ players.

If not, make the adjustment for lvl2.000- players, make it equal and fair.


That's all.

 

Hang on, so what you're saying here is ... right or wrong, the rule should be modified  ?

 

Hmmm

[yghorbeviahn]

Or the rule apply for higher levels too, or change for the lower levels, simple.

Or HCS need to assume that 1FSP is the price cap, and it's not going more than that.

Anything I can understand, like I said, I've pointed a bug on the game, and a suggestion how to fix it, but everyone just start to point pvp, atitudes, bla bla bla, all I've was about a bug, nothing else.

[Maury Bund]

Where is this quest? Maybe it was there for older players but I don't see it for newer players so are you implying HCS is "lying" to newer players? 

There were at minimum 2 quests that required PvP. The one that I remember positively as one of them was Remnants of Corruption, level 40. It required that a player have a PvP rating of something like 1250 or 1450. Every one started at 1000 rating, so you had to win some before you could actually start. After I had completed the quest, they changed the reward and gave out Tainted Runes and Tainted Rings for a short while (but never offered me one as a previous completer). These items became SUPER popular in the Arena and would command 400 FSP in the AH. Gideon's set came out years later and replaced the need for these items. When the ladder was introduced, the PvP rating that everyone had got reset to 1000 and became bracketed. After the PvP ladder was changed, yet again, to having to opt in, that did away with everyone actually having a PvP rating. Without the PvP rating system that was once in place, HCS had to alter a few of the quests so that players could actually complete them. Thus, you no longer see them in your quest book written this way. There was also another quest around level 75-80, but I don't recall which one.

 

So  !

Edited by Maury Bund, 08 June 2015 - 03:27.

[Pardoux]

Or the rule apply for higher levels too, or change for the lower levels, simple.

Or HCS need to assume that 1FSP is the price cap, and it's not going more than that.

Anything I can understand, like I said, I've pointed a bug on the game, and a suggestion how to fix it, but everyone just start to point pvp, atitudes, bla bla bla, all I've was about a bug, nothing else.

 

YOU think it's a bug - There seems to be more that disagree with you than agree tho

[Lsrpm]

What is this PvP and bounty board you speak of?

All jokes aside..I agree with you 100% YGH..It makes perfect sense for it to be changed. Then again..They still have the 1fp for 50k gold upgrade in the FSP upgrades still so I dont know how well logic will be put in this.

 

All in all. I strongly believe PvP is not what it used to be..Same with the bounty board. Bounty board is mainly used for guild wars or a place for someone to lose 5+ levels

[Calista]

I'll save you time:

"Fallen Sword is a massively multiplayer role playing game set in the exciting and evolving world of Erildath. Players enter the world and explore, adventure across a vast number of realms with thousands of other players.

Fallen Sword is a great game to play on your own or with friends. It has an old school MUD (Multi-User Dungeon) feel to it, with a great combat system. Slice your way through the many dungeons and group with your friends to defeat Legendary creatures.

Game Features:

• Over a thousand levels worth of content, realms and creatures.
• State of the art HTML5 canvas game play.
• A vast array of skills and abilities for your character.
• Thousands of items and quests to collect.
• Free to play with no downloads.
• Trading and auction systems.
• Variety of exciting community events.
• Regular updates and improvements.
• An active and dynamic community of thousands of other players.

 

I think this blurb you posted is further proof of how outdated some parts of the game are, and show that it's beyond time to do some practical updating along with all these events and other updates being worked on.

 

 

I'm not the one going around saying this is a pvp game. I think this game is much more. If pvp is such an important aspect, you would think it would be on the intro screen, no? Do I go around calling this a titan hunting game? Nope. I'm not saying pvp isn't an aspect. It is. But it's not the main aspect. Sorry. i feel bad for you. I would be pretty upset if I am led to believe my favorite aspect of the game is the most important yet... You know...

 

I agree that the game is more then PvP. If you look at what I posted, I repeatedly say that pvp is ONE part of the game. And from your point of view, I'm sure it is a part of the game that means little. Just like from my point of view, Titan hunting is just plain silly. Hopefully HCS wants input from all aspects of the game, and all their players, and not just the ones who feel only their game play is important. 

 

Thanks Maury for saving me the trouble of looking that quest up. Plus your post had alot of information I didn't know, like the quests had been changed in our quest logs. I suspect others might have been aware of that piece of information and thats why we're pretending it never happened.  Sssshhhhh! 

Edited by Calista, 08 June 2015 - 05:36.

[Lsrpm]

@Calista

I do agree with you that titan hunting is silly(especially now that it takes 45 mins to take one down solo) but its profitable.

This is one of the main reasons why I feel like PvP has died. Back in the day players werent so smart and kept tons of gold on them...It was really satisfying to get a master thief to pop on a 1mill holder. Also the bounty board was actually active so it was an easy way to get some dots. Then finally the PvP ladder tokens was sort of a step in the right direction..but the items became worthless.

 

Players in this game are greedy, which is understandable of course but this entire game revolves around FSP. If there isnt FSP in a certain aspect of a game people will lose interest fast. Only the dedicated people will continue to do a certain aspect.

 

Sorry if this was a bit off topic

[yghorbeviahn]

Sorry if this was a bit off topic

I believe all this topic is off-topic now lol

[BigGrim]

Hi there.

The Bounty Board will be changing with the PvP system. We will provide more data on it when we have something to show.

This thread is both off topic and full of flaming.

*Locked*

~ Grim